Oklahoma Bible mandate challenged in Court

[Into the Night]

Blatant lie.

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Yes, the First Amendment applies to state governments because the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause incorporates the First Amendment's rights and freedoms, making them applicable to state and local actions. This process, known as incorporation, ensures that states, like the federal government, are prohibited from infringing upon rights such as free speech, the free exercise of religion, and freedom of assembly.

Only in Comparative Religion and World History.

The first amendment of the Constitution of the United States does not apply to the States, LeftNut. It only applies to Congress (and the rest of the federal government by association).

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A State is not Congress.

 

[Into the Night]

Blatant lie.

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Yes, the First Amendment applies to state governments because the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause incorporates the First Amendment's rights and freedoms, making them applicable to state and local actions. This process, known as incorporation, ensures that states, like the federal government, are prohibited from infringing upon rights such as free speech, the free exercise of religion, and freedom of assembly.

Only in Comparative Religion and World History.

No such limitation in the Oklahoma Constitution, LeftNut.

 

[Into the Night]

Keep drinking and misreading posts. We're used to it.

YOU brought up Massachusetts for some oddball reason.

 

[AProudLefty]

The first amendment of the Constitution of the United States does not apply to the States, LeftNut. It only applies to Congress (and the rest of the federal government by association).

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A State is not Congress.

Denying the 14th Amendment.

 

[Into the Night]

Never said he did. Have another drink.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POST! Anyone can read it!

 

[Into the Night]

lol, keep drinking.

I don't drink alcohol, Edwina.

 

[Into the Night]

lol it's history reported by the participants, something that is not kind to illiterates. You hit the bottom of the bottle yet?

Irrelevant.

 

[Into the Night]

lol you wouldn't know. States could and did designate a state church. They still can if voters approve the Amendments to do so.

That is true. You just nullified your earlier argument concerning the 1st amendment.
Now that you understand this, NOTHING in the Oklahoma Constitution prevents teaching the Bible in schools.

 

[Into the Night]

What States? If they did, that would mean they deny the right for the children not to be taught a religion.

Teaching religions belongs in churches and Sunday schools.

State religions did not deny other religions being taught, LeftNut.

Democrat religions are taught in schools.

 

[Into the Night]

Denying the 14th Amendment.

The 14th amendment does not affect the 1st amendment in any way.

 

[AProudLefty]

That is true. You just nullified your earlier argument concerning the 1st amendment.
Now that you understand this, NOTHING in the Oklahoma Constitution prevents teaching the Bible in schools.

Indoctrination is prevented in the public schools.

Teaching the Bible is allowed in Comparative Religion and World History.

 

[AProudLefty]

State religions did not deny other religions being taught, LeftNut.

In Comparative Religion and World History? Correct.

Democrat religions are taught in schools.

What Democrat religions? Give examples.

 

[Into the Night]

Indoctrination is prevented in the public schools.

So why do Democrats conduct indoctrination in schools?

Teaching the Bible is allowed in Comparative Religion and World History.

No such limitation in the Oklahoma Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

In Comparative Religion and World History? Correct.

What Democrat religions? Give examples.

RQAA

 

[AProudLefty]

So why do Democrats conduct indoctrination in schools?

What indoctrination?

No such limitation in the Oklahoma Constitution.

The 14th Amendment is the limit.

 

[AProudLefty]

RQAA

In other words, you made stuff up again.

 

[Into the Night]

In other words, you made stuff up again.

Awwww. You're trying an argument of the Stone again.

 

[Into the Night]

What indoctrination?

The 14th Amendment is the limit.

The 14th amendment does not affect the Oklahoma Constitution, LeftNut. It does not discuss religion or the Bible either, or place any limit on any school curiculum.

 

[AProudLefty]

Awwww. You're trying an argument of the Stone again.

Cute how you think you understand the fallacy. Adorable.

 

[AProudLefty]

The 14th amendment does not affect the Oklahoma Constitution, LeftNut. It does not discuss religion or the Bible either, or place any limit on any school curiculum.

It prevents the indoctrination in public schools, Rightnut.