Once again, the american people get screwed.....corporations win again.

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This bill isn't for the american people it's for business.

1,200 for individuals for MOST AMERICANS meaning some will be left out.
500 billion for corporations
350 Billion for small business

why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.
 
This bill isn't for the american people it's for business.

1,200 for individuals for MOST AMERICANS meaning some will be left out.
500 billion for corporations
350 Billion for small business

why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.

Think of the corporations as sugar babies and the Treasury as a sugar daddy.
 
business gets billions what are they doing with the money if they aren't paying their laid off workers?
 
This is America. Corporations and the wealthy always win. The battle was about whether we had oversight on the pot of gold the Repubs were extracting from the bill. It is never enough. You know that 500 billion will be stolen by those who do not need it. That was never in doubt.
 
I will take a slightly different view with the disclaimer that I have not read the package.
Corporations employee workers. Out of business corporations do not. Hopefully, this language has proper oversight.
 
why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.
See the response below the following response...

business gets billions
Some do. Many others do not. Also, "billions" (or even "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" for that matter) would be the gross profit, not net profit. Businesses do incur expenses, you know...

what are they doing with the money if they aren't paying their laid off workers?
[1] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can offer their employees health/dental/vision insurance.

[2] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (general liability insurance, auto insurance, etc. etc. etc)

[3] Writing out huge checks to a lengthy list of vendors so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (for raw materials, products, services, etc.) -- see an extremely small sampling of specific examples for a general business below, as specific businesses will each have their own large expenses that other business wouldn't have:

[3a] Writing out huge checks to law firms to correspond with lawyers to handle legal issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is NOT cheap btw)

[3b] Writing out huge checks to external accounting outfits to handle various accounting and tax issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)

[3c] Writing out huge checks to various software and website maintenance companies in order to have a website and professional software so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)


Now, here's a small sampling of what a company that owns and manages numerous properties (student housing, other housing, commercial office/retail/warehouse space, and parking at those locations) will incur expenses for:

** Managers to manage all the properties.
** Elevator companies to maintain elevators within each building. (This is NOT cheap btw)
** Paving companies to maintain paved parking lots and parking stall lines.
** Cleaning companies to keep the commercial spaces clean for tenants... and for apartment turnovers (student housing).
** Real Estate Taxes and utilities for each property.
** HVAC & plumbing companies to keep heat/ac working and to keep drains working.
** Call service companies to take tenant calls outside of normal business operation hours.
** Office supply companies for various office supplies.
** Copiers and the toner for them (and companies that do regular maintenance on those copiers)
** Keys for the buildings and mailboxes.
** Painting companies to paint when needed.
** Appliance repair companies to keep washers/dryers (and etc.) in working order.
** Automobiles for the company, and auto repair companies to keep those automobiles in working order.
** Lawn care/snow removal companies to maintain the properties and their lots throughout the year.
** Garbage disposal companies
** Private security companies to patrol parking lots for illegal parkers and to patrol buildings to make sure that they are secure.
** Pest control companies to prevent and take care of any pest infestations that may occur at the properties.
** Advertising companies that advertise the currently vacant/available properties.
** Various brokers (this is NOT AT ALL cheap btw...)


So yeah, that's a small sampling of what businesses are "doing with the money".


SOURCE: I am an accountant for a company that owns/manages rental properties.
 
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This bill isn't for the american people it's for business.

1,200 for individuals for MOST AMERICANS meaning some will be left out.
500 billion for corporations
350 Billion for small business

why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.
The Democrats had to cave to get some help to people who need this money to feed their families.
 
This is America. Corporations and the wealthy always win. The battle was about whether we had oversight on the pot of gold the Repubs were extracting from the bill. It is never enough. You know that 500 billion will be stolen by those who do not need it. That was never in doubt.

Why are Democrats trying to shove these relief bills full of pork for their pet projects?? They can't let a "crisis" go without "taking advantage of it", eh?
 
See the response below the following response...


Some do. Many others do not. Also, "billions" (or even "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" for that matter) would be the gross profit, not net profit. Businesses do incur expenses, you know...


[1] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can offer their employees health/dental/vision insurance.

[2] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (general liability insurance, auto insurance, etc. etc. etc)

[3] Writing out huge checks to a lengthy list of vendors so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (for raw materials, products, services, etc.) -- see an extremely small sampling of specific examples for a general business below, as specific businesses will each have their own large expenses that other business wouldn't have:

[3a] Writing out huge checks to law firms to correspond with lawyers to handle legal issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is NOT cheap btw)

[3b] Writing out huge checks to external accounting outfits to handle various accounting and tax issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)

[3c] Writing out huge checks to various software and website maintenance companies in order to have a website and professional software so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)


Now, here's a small sampling of what a company that owns and manages numerous properties (student housing, other housing, commercial office/retail/warehouse space, and parking at those locations) will incur expenses for:

** Managers to manage all the properties.
** Elevator companies to maintain elevators within each building. (This is NOT cheap btw)
** Paving companies to maintain paved parking lots and parking stall lines.
** Cleaning companies to keep the commercial spaces clean for tenants... and for apartment turnovers (student housing).
** Real Estate Taxes and utilities for each property.
** HVAC & plumbing companies to keep heat/ac working and to keep drains working.
** Call service companies to take tenant calls outside of normal business operation hours.
** Office supply companies for various office supplies.
** Copiers and the toner for them (and companies that do regular maintenance on those copiers)
** Keys for the buildings and mailboxes.
** Painting companies to paint when needed.
** Appliance repair companies to keep washers/dryers (and etc.) in working order.
** Automobiles for the company, and auto repair companies to keep those automobiles in working order.
** Lawn care/snow removal companies to maintain the properties and their lots throughout the year.
** Garbage disposal companies
** Private security companies to patrol parking lots for illegal parkers and to patrol buildings to make sure that they are secure.
** Pest control companies to prevent and take care of any pest infestations that may occur at the properties.
** Advertising companies that advertise the currently vacant/available properties.
** Various brokers (this is NOT AT ALL cheap btw...)


So yeah, that's a small sampling of what businesses are "doing with the money".


SOURCE: I am an accountant for a company that owns/manages rental properties.

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The Democrats had to cave to get some help to people who need this money to feed their families.

and that's where american people are left out.

all people wont get help, but all business will..........the racist white male american way.

the majority of business in this country is owned by white males.

even in castrophy they don't want to help Blacks and Mexicans.
when you vote republican this is what you support.
 
This is America. Corporations and the wealthy always win. The battle was about whether we had oversight on the pot of gold the Repubs were extracting from the bill. It is never enough. You know that 500 billion will be stolen by those who do not need it. That was never in doubt.

but dems compromise the lives of minorities to get what little crumbs the republicans leave.

when they spew about helping working americans only, they are sending white america the message that only white people work.

the have been spewing that message for decades. they still haven't disclosed which americans will be left out of getting help.
 

So you're going to ignore an argument simply because it is longer than a sentence or two? You wanted to know what businesses are doing with the money. I gave you a small sampling of what they're doing with it.

You obviously have no knowledge about the day to day operations of a business, nor all of the work and expenses involved in forming and running a business.
 
and that's where american people are left out.

all people wont get help, but all business will..........the racist white male american way.

the majority of business in this country is owned by white males.

even in castrophy they don't want to help Blacks and Mexicans.
when you vote republican this is what you support.

More racism from you. Why are you such a racist person?
 
and that's where american people are left out.

all people wont get help, but all business will..........the racist white male american way.

the majority of business in this country is owned by white males.

even in castrophy they don't want to help Blacks and Mexicans.
when you vote republican this is what you support.

Bub, your post is privileged racism. Knock it off, no one is buying it.
 
Why are Democrats trying to shove these relief bills full of pork for their pet projects?? They can't let a "crisis" go without "taking advantage of it", eh?

My guess is that you did not read the Republican proposal (which you support), the Democratic proposal (which you object to), or the one that was agreed to.
 
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