Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

ZenMode said:
Because you brought up clearly unimportant things, like the effectiveness of hitting kids with boards. I gave you a chance and now I am done wasting my time
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Maybe you are not very bright. You seem confounded by my answers.
 
Hume said:
Maybe you are not very bright. You seem confounded by my answers.
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Wrong answer. You and I both know you weren't talking about an institution allowing or disallowing a specific activity. Child abuse is not legal in the United States, but it still happens. There is no connection between morality and legality.
 
ZenMode said:
Wrong answer. You and I both know you weren't talking about an institution allowing or disallowing a specific activity. Child abuse is not legal in the United States, but it still happens. There is no connection between morality and legality.
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I thought you were saying they paddle people in the South. I wouldn't know.
 
Hume said:
I thought you were saying they paddle people in the South. I wouldn't know.
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Great. Then I was wrong. I am talking specifically about the two people involved. The adult and the child and the morality of the adult hitting a child with a board.
 
ZenMode said:
Great. Then I was wrong. I am talking specifically about the two people involved. The adult and the child and the morality of the adult hitting a child with a board.
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And I answered. I do not believe paddling is merely a sadistic pleasure in cruelty. Maybe it is, what do you think?
 
Hume said:
And I answered. I do not believe paddling is merely a sadistic pleasure in cruelty. Maybe it is, what do you think?
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The question is whether or not it is moral and whether or not morality is subjective or objective.
 
Hume said:
I answered. So, no need to keep asking a question after it is answered.
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Lol..... You fooled me twice. Shame on you. You like to start playing dumb when a discussion is not going your way. I need to remember that.
 
ZenMode said:
Lol..... You fooled me twice. Shame on you.
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I genuinely have no idea what your question is. Are you claiming paddling is only for sadistic pleasure?

Like I said about clitorectomy, the people doing it think it is the right thing to do. I don't think they hate young girls.
 
Hume said:
Moral behavior. Take an example: In Niger, some practice clitorectomies. I don't know how prevalent it is today, but it is done.
Some think that is abuse. But the people doing it--the families themselves--don't see it as abusive.
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but some are right and some are wrong in this case.

it;s clearly immoral.

but now we know where you stand on FGM.

and yes, this is why you're losing.

please do better.
 
Blackwater Lunchbreak said:
the golden rule is the best distillation of true morality i've encountered.

what's your gold standard?

nihilism?
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The golden rule is great. If the whole world truly lived by it, we'd be a better world, but you're ignoring things like killing your new wife if you find out she's not a virgin, killing your kids if they talk back to you, slaughtering babies, killing your neighbor for working on Saturday etc.
 
ZenMode said:
The golden rule is great. If the whole world truly lived by it, we'd be a better world, but you're ignoring things like killing your new wife if you find out she's not a virgin, killing your kids if they talk back to you, slaughtering babies, etc.
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those are all immoral.
 
Blackwater Lunchbreak said:
the turn about principle. or the golden rule.

"how about we cut the head of your dick off, Mohammed you for that?"
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How does the Golden Rule apply to a parent killing their child for arguing or someone killing their neighbor for working on Saturday when it's already been established that back talk and working on the Sabbath are immoral?
 
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