Paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by Creation Museum

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Paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by Creation Museum

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PETERSBURG, Kentucky (AFP) — For a group of paleontologists, a tour of the Creation Museum seemed like a great tongue-in-cheek way to cap off a serious conference.
But while there were a few laughs and some clowning for the camera, most left more offended than amused by the frightening way in which evolution -- and their life's work -- was attacked.
"It's sort of a monument to scientific illiteracy, isn't it?" said Jerry Lipps, professor of geology, paleontology and evolution at University of California, Berkeley.
"Like Sunday school with statues... this is a special brand of religion here. I don't think even most mainstream Christians would believe in this interpretation of Earth's history."
The 27 million dollar, 70,000-square-foot (6,500-square-metre) museum which has been dubbed a "creationist Disneyland" has attracted 715,000 visitors since it opened in mid-2007 with a vow to "bring the pages of the Bible to life."
Its presents a literal interpretation of the Bible and argues that believing otherwise leads to moral relativism and the destruction of social values.
Creationism is a theory not supported by most mainstream Christian churches.
Lisa Park of the University of Akron cried at one point as she walked a hallway full of flashing images of war, famine and natural disasters which the museum blames on belief in evolution.
"I think it's very bad science and even worse theology -- and the theology is far more offensive to me," said Park, a professor of paleontology who is an elder in the Presbyterian Church.
"I think there's a lot of focus on fear, and I don't think that's a very Christian message... I find it a malicious manipulation of the public."
Phil Jardine posed for a picture below a towering, toothy dinosaur display.
The museum argues that the fossil record has been misinterpreted and that Tyrannosaurus rex was a vegetarian before Adam and Eve bit into that sin-inducing apple.
Jardine, a palaeobiologist graduate student from the University of Birmingham, was having fun on the tour, but told a reporter that he was disturbed by the museum's cartoonish portrayal of scientists and teachers.
"I feel very sorry for teachers when the children who come here start guessing if what they're being taught is wrong," Jardine said.
Arnie Miller, a palentologist at the University of Cincinnati who was chairman of the convention, said he hoped the tour would introduce the scientists to "the lay of the land" and show them firsthand what's being put forth in a place that has elicited vehement criticism from the scientific community.
"I think in some cases, people were surprised by the physical quality of the exhibits, but needless to say, they were unhappy with things that are inaccurately portrayed," he said.
"And there was a feeling of unhappiness, too, about the extent to which mainstream scientists and evolutionists are demonized -- that if you don't accept the Answers in Genesis vision of the history of Earth and life, you're contributing to the ills of society and of the church."
Daryl Domning, professor of anatomy at Howard University, held his chin and shook his head at several points during the tour.
"This bothers me as a scientist and as a Christian, because it's just as much a distortion and misrepresentation of Christianity as it is of science," he said.
"It's not your old-time religion by any means."
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The Creationism Museum is plain silly and stupid. I don't think most people who believe in Creationism find this place credible. But whatever, kids who believe this kind of shit aren't going to take any jobs from my kids.
 
What? You're right. How dare I mock silly beliefs!


Uh, no. In trying to point out the stupidity of religion (as par your usual manifesto)you've opened the backdoor on yourself, since it says throughout the article "many churches do no subscribe to these beliefs" and thing similar in nature. You've in fact buoyed the majority of Christians in condemning those idiots. THAT'S how it's your undoing.
 
Uh, no. In trying to point out the stupidity of religion (as par your usual manifesto)you've opened the backdoor on yourself, since it says throughout the article "many churches do no subscribe to these beliefs" and thing similar in nature. You've in fact buoyed the majority of Christians in condemning those idiots. THAT'S how it's your undoing.

Many /= majority.

The majority of Christians believe in the creation story literally. The only reason a majority of Americans do not is because non-believers tip the scale.
 
Many /= majority.

The majority of Christians believe in the creation story literally. The only reason a majority of Americans do not is because non-believers tip the scale.

And I'm sure you're eagerly awaiting my demand for proof? Well please, enlighten me with your evidence for that claim. And please be sure to include the stats for Christians who do/do not believe in creationism.
 
There is nothing common about sense.

True.

I was mainly saying it as a placeholder until I could find a poll that asked Christians what they thought about evolution. I made the statement above based on the logic that if 47% of people don't believe in evolution, the Christians would almost certainly have to have a majority answering that they don't, because practically none of the unbelievers, secular unaffiliated, and religious unaffiliated are going to say they don't believe in evolution.
 
True.

I was mainly saying it as a placeholder until I could find a poll that asked Christians what they thought about evolution. I made the statement above based on the logic that if 47% of people don't believe in evolution, the Christians would almost certainly have to have a majority answering that they don't, because practically none of the unbelievers, secular unaffiliated, and religious unaffiliated are going to say they don't believe in evolution.

So... you have no evidence? And what is it that you always say? oh yeah,

"That which is submitted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."
 
christians believe the bible is the word of god, and infallible.

Therefore, most christians believe in the creation story as an actual event.
 
christians believe the bible is the word of god, and infallible.

Therefore, most christians believe in the creation story as an actual event.

I don't know what your exposure has been to "all christians". I grew up going to the United Church of Canada, the largest denomination in the country. That I no longer believe is irrelevant. That aside, we were taught that the stories in the bible were parables, fables, allegorical representations conceived to be understood by simple minded humans, and not direct reporting of facts. Humans have always striven to understand their place in the world and to have some sort of structure on which to build their societies. These parables provided that.
 
I don't know what your exposure has been to "all christians". I grew up going to the United Church of Canada, the largest denomination in the country. That I no longer believe is irrelevant. That aside, we were taught that the stories in the bible were parables, fables, allegorical representations conceived to be understood by simple minded humans, and not direct reporting of facts. Humans have always striven to understand their place in the world and to have some sort of structure on which to build their societies. These parables provided that.


If the stories in the old testament are parables, they're are bizarre ones.
 
The majority of modern Christians are fundamentalists. The mainline sects are dying out.

Mainline sects say that the stories are "parables", so they can essentially get away with anything. Fundamentalism is an indefensible position.
 
Many /= majority.

The majority of Christians believe in the creation story literally. The only reason a majority of Americans do not is because non-believers tip the scale.

Your article:

Creationism is a theory not supported by most mainstream Christian churches.
 
Many /= majority.

The majority of Christians believe in the creation story literally. The only reason a majority of Americans do not is because non-believers tip the scale.
which one?.....I believe the depiction of creation found in Genesis 1:1 to be literally true......
 
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