Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

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There is no longer any doubt the Republican party no longer works for the interests of We, the People. They are domestic terrorists who don't care if thousands of Americans die every year because of an inadequate health care system, or are blown away by assault weapons, just as long as President Obama is harmed.

I REALLY hope the people of this nation see what is happening and sends these right wing scum bags home.

Pat Toomey confirms it: Obama is right about GOP

"There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey said.

Washington Post
 
blah blah blah. the democrats don't care about the constitutional rights of americans any more than the republicans do, so stop with the faux outrage.
 
Bfgrn said:
There is no longer any doubt the Republican party no longer works for the interests of We, the People. They are domestic terrorists who don't care if thousands of Americans die every year because of an inadequate health care system, or are blown away by assault weapons, just as long as President Obama is harmed.

I REALLY hope the people of this nation see what is happening and sends these right wing scum bags home.

Pat Toomey confirms it: Obama is right about GOP

"There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey said.

Washington Post
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How about it was a stupid idea to begin with?
 
Bfgrn said:
Yea, why should we force murderers, felons, wife beaters, and the mentally ill to have to risk their lives buying guns in dark alleys from other criminals? We need to pamper them.
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Haynes v. US those felons, wife beaters, and mentally ill are constitutionally protected from having to reveal their status when filling out a government form that could get them prosecuted
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Haynes v. US those felons, wife beaters, and mentally ill are constitutionally protected from having to reveal their status when filling out a government form that could get them prosecuted
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As are terrorists on the watch list. Thank God y'all are in favor of their constitutional rights!
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Haynes v. US those felons, wife beaters, and mentally ill are constitutionally protected from having to reveal their status when filling out a government form that could get them prosecuted
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SO, the Constitution was written to protect murderers, felons, wife beaters, and the mentally ill.
 
Howey said:
As are terrorists on the watch list. Thank God y'all are in favor of their constitutional rights!
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1) get the government to be transparent about the terrorist watch list, as in who's on it and how do you get off of it should you be mistakenly put on it, and maybe we can discuss it
2) the constitutional rights of EVERYBODY are important. The founders wrote the constitution to make it that way. By arbitrarily denying others their rights based on issues you like or hate makes you a traitor to the constitution.
 
Bfgrn said:
Yea, why should we force murderers, felons, wife beaters, and the mentally ill to have to risk their lives buying guns in dark alleys from other criminals? We need to pamper them.
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You mean they'll have to get guns from places they already get them? How about, oh I dont know, reporting the info to NICS like people are supposed to? Clerical negligance is the biggest flaw in the NICS system and yet no one has proposed a solution to that
No you want to eliminate private sales instead, because punishing 100,000,000+ people is the best solution
 
SmarterthanYou said:
1) get the government to be transparent about the terrorist watch list, as in who's on it and how do you get off of it should you be mistakenly put on it, and maybe we can discuss it
2) the constitutional rights of EVERYBODY are important. The founders wrote the constitution to make it that way. By arbitrarily denying others their rights based on issues you like or hate makes you a traitor to the constitution.
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Arbitrarily? Are you fucking serious??? If someone commits a murder, felony or beats his wife, it is NO LONGER ARBITRARY you asshole...
 
Chapel The Evergreen said:
You mean they'll have to get guns from places they already get them? How about, oh I dont know, reporting the info to NICS like people are supposed to? Clerical negligance is the biggest flaw in the NICS system and yet no one has proposed a solution to that
No you want to eliminate private sales instead, because punishing 100,000,000+ people is the best solution
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It doesn't eliminate ANY sales...NONE. UNLESS you are someone who can't pass a background check. You right wing scum are protecting people who KILL...
 
Bfgrn said:
Arbitrarily? Are you fucking serious??? If someone commits a murder, felony or beats his wife, it is NO LONGER ARBITRARY you asshole...
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and there are 'appropriate' punishments for those crimes, at least according to congress there is. you know, like prison, fines, death penalty, etc. so yes, by denying rights to people who have served their 'sentences', you are being ARBITRARY you asshole.
 
Bfgrn said:
It doesn't eliminate ANY sales...NONE. UNLESS you are someone who can't pass a background check. You right wing scum are protecting people who KILL...
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so lets say that an abused wife is trying to leave her abusive cop husband, but in her terror she wants to buy a gun for her safety but has to fill out her background check paperwork at the department her abusive husband works for?
 
for the billionth time, patriot gun supporters care far more about guns as a political issue than those that favor gun control. Quit whining We own the gun issue.
 
Bfgrn said:
It doesn't eliminate ANY sales...NONE. UNLESS you are someone who can't pass a background check. You right wing scum are protecting people who KILL...
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Well it doesn't let people without a FFL perform a background check, so yeah it eliminates private sales. Why don't you ask for better reporting to the NICS instead?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so lets say that an abused wife is trying to leave her abusive cop husband, but in her terror she wants to buy a gun for her safety but has to fill out her background check paperwork at the department her abusive husband works for?
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Come on, we don't write laws based on anecdotal fairy tales...what nonsense. If she is contemplating shooting her husband, she SHOULDN'T be allowed to buy a gun. There are LEGAL avenues she can use to secure protection.
 
Bfgrn said:
Come on, we don't write laws based on anecdotal fairy tales...what nonsense. If she is contemplating shooting her husband, she SHOULDN'T be allowed to buy a gun. There are LEGAL avenues she can use to secure protection.
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she should absolutely be allowed to potentially shoot her husband. You are a traitor, you speak traitorous words. Move to another country if this upsets you so much.
 
Bfgrn said:
Come on, we don't write laws based on anecdotal fairy tales...what nonsense. If she is contemplating shooting her husband, she SHOULDN'T be allowed to buy a gun. There are LEGAL avenues she can use to secure protection.
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is buying a gun to provide for ones own safety an indicator that someone wants to shoot someone else? how the hell did you come to that conclusion? what OTHER legal avenues do you suggest, since I gave you the only one if your 'law' is put in to effect
 
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