Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

Taichiliberal said:
Ahhh, the proud willful ignorance of our resident NRA patsy. Pathetic.
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this is why nobody can take idiots like you with any level of seriousness. how many posts have I made disparaging the NRA as an organization full of fudds and appeasers, one that I would NEVER be a member of, and yet hacktastic partisan morons like yourself can't wrap your tiny brain around the fact that there are gun rights advocates who hate the NRA. go back to playing your candy crush game and leave the adults to deal with reality.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this is why nobody can take idiots like you with any level of seriousness. how many posts have I made disparaging the NRA as an organization full of fudds and appeasers, one that I would NEVER be a member of, and yet hacktastic partisan morons like yourself can't wrap your tiny brain around the fact that there are gun rights advocates who hate the NRA. go back to playing your candy crush game and leave the adults to deal with reality.
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You love to portray yourself as someone in line with our founding fathers, but if you had ever educated yourself in how they governed, there is no doubt they would have revoked the corporate charter, shut down gun manufacturers and prosecuted the owners and stock holders for causing deaths and human carnage.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this is why nobody can take idiots like you with any level of seriousness. how many posts have I made disparaging the NRA as an organization full of fudds and appeasers, one that I would NEVER be a member of, and yet hacktastic partisan morons like yourself can't wrap your tiny brain around the fact that there are gun rights advocates who hate the NRA. go back to playing your candy crush game and leave the adults to deal with reality.
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Oh put your dress down! No one is buying your BS, because this board is filled with you parroting the very same dreck that can be found on every right wingnut website or article or broadcast. You demonize exactly what they do with the same lack of facts and denial of what you don't like.

But YOU don't have the intellectual courage to just acknowledge this...so instead you carry on as if your shit doesn't stink as bad as their's ....as if the nonsense you babble is so much different.

And as any sane, rational and objective reader can see, you fail.

I put forth information that is fact based and valid


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...dn-t-Want-To-Help-Obama&p=1212143#post1212143

...YOU and your idiot oather/threeper/libertarian/neocon/teabagger mindset cannot disprove or logically rationally deny. So you just bray this oft repeated BS of yours. No one is buying it given your record on these boards. So please go blow smoke up the asses of your like minded compadres, because YOU are NO different from them.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
your lunacy is leaps and bounds above normal today. again, go back to your candy crush game
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See folks, this STY fool just babbles because he's too much of an intellectual coward to acknowledge when someone else is right on a topic he believes otherwise. http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...dn-t-Want-To-Help-Obama&p=1212745#post1212745


So does STY agree with the subject title of this thread? Does he acknowledge with what I posted as valid? Let's watch and see if he can give an honest answer and subsequent explanation.
 
Taichiliberal said:
People with past criminal records are denied purchase. If you have an outstanding warrant for your arrest, I sincerely doubt you'd be stupid enough to try and legally buy a gun....unless you go to a gun show and find an unlicensed dealer who WON'T do a background check on you.

Background checks for guns: What you need to know
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...nd-checks-for-guns-what-you-need-to-know?lite

You don't even have the cojones to admit that this information proves your assertion dead wrong. Clearly, you don't do any homework that might >gasp!< contradict your belief system.

See genius, the point is that these folk WERE PREVENTED from obtaining a gun. Got that?
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Are you trying to say that none of those "1.8 million" can't be charged with ATTEMPTING to purchase an firearm illegally?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
People with past criminal records are denied purchase. If you have an outstanding warrant for your arrest, I sincerely doubt you'd be stupid enough to try and legally buy a gun....unless you go to a gun show and find an unlicensed dealer who WON'T do a background check on you.

Background checks for guns: What you need to know
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...d-to-know?lite

You don't even have the cojones to admit that this information proves your assertion dead wrong. Clearly, you don't do any homework that might >gasp!< contradict your belief system.

See genius, the point is that these folk WERE PREVENTED from obtaining a gun. Got that?
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Are you trying to say that none of those "1.8 million" can't be charged with ATTEMPTING to purchase an firearm illegally?
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Are you fucking stupid? A background check prevents people from purchasing a gun from a "legal" gun seller/trader.....I've already covered the trade show loophole and what it entails. Either read the information or continue to act dumber than you are with these inane questions.

Do you have the intellectual courage to answer a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Are you fucking stupid? A background check prevents people from purchasing a gun from a "legal" gun seller/trader.....I've already covered the trade show loophole and what it entails. Either read the information or continue to act dumber than you are with these inane questions.

Do you have the intellectual courage to answer a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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DAMN, you sure tap danced your way around that one!!

You are aware that if your are prohibited from owning a firearm, then the attempted purchase of same is against the law.
Of course, NOW you'll say you knew that; but you just didn't want to answer.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Are you fucking stupid? A background check prevents people from purchasing a gun from a "legal" gun seller/trader.....I've already covered the trade show loophole and what it entails. Either read the information or continue to act dumber than you are with these inane questions.

Do you have the intellectual courage to answer a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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you sure do make up most of your definitions, which is another reason that intelligent people consider you a left wing nut case. change 'legal' to 'licensed' and you have a factual statement. otherwise, you're just full of liberalism (read that as shit)
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Are you trying to say that none of those "1.8 million" can't be charged with ATTEMPTING to purchase an firearm illegally?
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Question for the troll:

1. How many of those 1.8 million ended up buying guns anyhow?

2. How many of those 1.8 million ended up buying guns in the hallways of gun shows?

3. How many of those 1.8 million ended up buying guns on the internet or from an individual?

4. Why do you defend criminals?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Are you fucking stupid? A background check prevents people from purchasing a gun from a "legal" gun seller/trader.....I've already covered the trade show loophole and what it entails. Either read the information or continue to act dumber than you are with these inane questions.

Do you have the intellectual courage to answer a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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DAMN, you sure tap danced your way around that one!!

You are aware that if your are prohibited from owning a firearm, then the attempted purchase of same is against the law.
Of course, NOW you'll say you knew that; but you just didn't want to answer.
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Once again, YOU are trying to BS your way pass the FACTS. Stating the painfully obvious DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS NOR what the chronology of the posts shows...which are my answering your dodges while maintaining how wrong you are on each point. I don't need you to concede a point, as the objective readers sees what an insipidly stubborn and dishonest poster you are.

And you STILL avoid a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Are you fucking stupid? A background check prevents people from purchasing a gun from a "legal" gun seller/trader.....I've already covered the trade show loophole and what it entails. Either read the information or continue to act dumber than you are with these inane questions.
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Do you have the intellectual courage to answer a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?

you sure do make up most of your definitions, which is another reason that intelligent people consider you a left wing nut case. change 'legal' to 'licensed' and you have a factual statement. otherwise, you're just full of liberalism (read that as shit)
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Change legal to licensed and you STILL have the same result, you dimwit. You can't be legal unless you have a license to sell guns.

Got that, genius? Good, because you need to grow a pair and answer the question: why are YOU so afraid of a simple background check?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Once again, YOU are trying to BS your way pass the FACTS. Stating the painfully obvious DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS NOR what the chronology of the posts shows...which are my answering your dodges while maintaining how wrong you are on each point. I don't need you to concede a point, as the objective readers sees what an insipidly stubborn and dishonest poster you are.

And you STILL avoid a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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Why do liberals think that a background check would have made a difference in any of the recent tragedies that have been discussed on this forum?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Change legal to licensed and you STILL have the same result, you dimwit. You can't be legal unless you have a license to sell guns.
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liar. I can sell a gun LEGALLY and I do not need a license.

Taichiliberal said:
Got that, genius? Good, because you need to grow a pair and answer the question: why are YOU so afraid of a simple background check?
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why do I have to have one? SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, moron.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Change legal to licensed and you STILL have the same result, you dimwit. You can't be legal unless you have a license to sell guns.
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liar. I can sell a gun LEGALLY and I do not need a license.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, YOU SIMPLETON. YOUR DOPEY ASS SELLS A GUN AND THAT PERSON USES IT IN A CRIME, THAT'S WHAT ALL THE FUSS ABOUT THE "GUN SHOW" LOOPHOLE IS ABOUT....AND SPARE US ALL YOUR BULLHORN ABOUT YOUR JUDGEMENT OF CHARACTER, BECAUSE YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED TIME AND AGAIN YOUR WILLFUL IGNORANCE AND INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND FACTS THAT DON'T CORRELATE TO YOUR BELIEFS!



Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Got that, genius? Good, because you need to grow a pair and answer the question: why are YOU so afraid of a simple background check?
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why do I have to have one? SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, moron.
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Why do you have to have documentation to sell a car, dipstick? It's called LEGAL LIABILITY and SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. But dumbass threepers/oathers/loony libertarians like you want to pass around an instrument that is designed to kill willy nilly , so long as YOU make a profit.

YOU CAN BUY A GUN, YOU STUPE! BUT YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS, AND A BACKGROUND CHECK ONLY PREVENTS THAT PURCHASE IF YOU'VE A RAP SHEET OR ARE MENTALLY IMPAIRED.

So why are you so scared of a background check? Afraid you won't pass?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Not all, but they would have prevented some:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ks-prevented-mass-shootings-article-1.1313303



And you STILL avoid a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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Your assertion and attempt to use the articles, in an attempt to support yourself, is amusing; because if you had read the articles, instead of just latching onto them, you would have seen that there are comments within them that discount your own comment.

So would you care to try again and show how expanded back ground checks would have stopped these tragedies?
Maybe if you reviewed the chronology of the posts, it would help you.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Not all, but they would have prevented some:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1313303



And you STILL avoid a simple question: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
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Your assertion and attempt to use the articles, in an attempt to support yourself, is amusing; because if you had read the articles, instead of just latching onto them, you would have seen that there are comments within them that discount your own comment.

Really? Care to copy and paste from the articles exactly what, where and how? Because if you can't or won't, then you're just blowing smoke like the petulant child that you are....unwilling to concede a point to someone who disproves your beliefs. Same old Tempie....SOS.

So would you care to try again and show how expanded back ground checks would have stopped these tragedies?

As it has been pointed out time and again, the simple background check (not "expanded") enforced for gun shows would not prevent all crimes, but would increase...how ever slight....the prevention of more gun related deaths. Here's something you can relate to, and note the last few paragraphs: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/mass-shootings-background-checks-charts/64097/

Maybe if you reviewed the chronology of the posts, it would help you.
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Maybe you should stop wasting everyone's time and (1) admit your original premise was proven wrong (2) answer a simple question: why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
 
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