Peelian Police Principles

[USFREEDOM911]

So have you read the article, why won't you answer? I have seen that video, seems clear that the guy was either mentally disturbed or choosing suicide by cop

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Neither of your provisions are in step with your OP.
Why are you afraid to address how the public is supposed to act?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Again, read the article and you might have your questioned answered. It's all there if you choose to read and comprehend.

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Don't take the cowards way out, by continually saying to refer to the OP.
Why are you scared to answer the question?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

So asking you to read the article first is too much to expect. You need to bone up up on cause and effect. You only concentrate on the effects but seemingly have no interest in wondering what is the cause.

The US incarcerates just over 2.2 million people compared to the UK where the comparable figure is just shy of 86,000. Given that the US population is roughly 5 times ours, that means you jail people around 5 times as much as over here. Do you never stop to wonder why there is such a huge disparity?

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And apparently asking you the question of how the public should act, makes you scared; but then, you really had nothing other then a cut and paste OP anyway.

 

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Neither of your provisions are in step with your OP.
Why are you afraid to address how the public is supposed to act?

I have already addressed that, it's cause and effect. Treat people like animals and they will behave accordingly. If you had read the article you would have discovered that for yourself.

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[USFREEDOM911]

I have already addressed that, it's cause and effect. Treat people like animals and they will behave accordingly. If you had read the article you would have discovered that for yourself.

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So once again, you appear to be suggesting that the public is only responding to this preconceived idea that the Police started the dissention; which essentially translates to mean that you have no idea of what you're complaining about.

 

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Don't take the cowards way out, by continually saying to refer to the OP.
Why are you scared to answer the question?

OK, I've spent enough time in the past going round in circles, it's clear that you have heavily preconceived ideas. That article is truly thought provoking but if you won't read it then there's nothing more to be said.

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[USFREEDOM911]

OK, I've spent enough time in the past going round in circles, it's clear that you have heavily preconceived ideas. That article is truly thought provoking but if you won't read it then there's nothing more to be said.

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How ironic that you would accuse anyone of having "heavily preconceived ideas", especially when you are scared to answer what was asked and just want to continue to echo your comment of "read the article"; but then, you don't appear to have a great deal of cognitive ability and are heavily dependent on what you're told to think.

 

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How ironic that you would accuse anyone of having "heavily preconceived ideas", especially when you are scared to answer what was asked and just want to continue to echo your comment of "read the article"; but then, you don't appear to have a great deal of cognitive ability and are heavily dependent on what you're told to think.

I have answered it but you didn't like the answer. You still won't address the question, why does the US imprisons five times more people per capita than the UK? Are people in the US five times more likely to have criminal tendencies, if so then why is that?

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I have answered it but you didn't like the answer. Why won't you address the question why the US imprisons five times more people per capita than the UK. Are people in the US five times more likely to have criminal tendencies, if so then why is that?

Looks like the research indicates that the US is less forgiving of criminal behavior than the pitiful, quasi-socialist economically-crippled nanny state you infest, tubby Tommy.


Tapio Lappi-Seppälä, director of the Institute of Criminology and Legal Policy at the University of Helsinki, is one of the leading researchers on prison populations and crime trends around the world.

He recently presented this topic to the Justice Department, showing long-term prisoner reduction in Finland, cross-comparative crime and prison trends (which show crime and prison rates are not necessarily correlated) and how U.S. rates compare to other countries.

The incarceration rate in the United States is an outlier in other ways, Lappi-Seppälä’s research shows. For example:

General victimization rates in the United States ranked about the same as countries in Western Europe (using victimization rates reported through the International Crime Victims Survey) but the U.S. incarceration rate was still much higher.

On the public punitive attitude scale, which uses standardized questions to measure public demand for punishment, the United States ranked the highest out of nearly 30 countries, mostly in Europe.

Crime spiked in the 1960s and through the 1970s. This was not unique to the United States at that time, but what did stand out was how the United States responded: It got tough on crime.

A series of “get tough” policies were enacted in the 1980s and into the 1990s, such as truth in sentencing laws, mandatory minimums, mandatory drug sentences, life sentence without possibility of parole, and the three-strikes law. (Britain also got tough on crime during this time, but not nearly to the levels that the United States did.)

“What sets the American pattern so clearly apart from the rest of developed nations is a byproduct of the generation after 1972,” said Franklin Zimring, a University of California at Berkeley law professor and director of criminal justice research program at Earl Warren Legal Institute.

The American public became worried when crime rates soared; the crime problem was among top voter concerns through the 1970s. The lack of political consensus on what was causing the increase in violent crime and what to do about it increased public concern, according to “The Growth of Incarceration in the United States: Exploring Causes and Consequences.”

The “get tough” policies became politically popular. The key players in the country’s legal system are elected positions in various levels of government (including local sheriffs, elected prosecutors, parole boards, executive clemency and pardoning authority, legislators voting on crime laws, etc.), which makes the U.S. criminal justice system more politicized and more responsive to popular opinion, experts said. The United States also functions as 51 separate countries, because so many of the criminal justice decisions are made at the local and state levels.

People who were incarcerated in the late 1970s during the spike in crimes and received mandatory decades-long sentences are now being released. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2009 was the first year in 31 years when prison releases exceeded admissions.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/07/yes-u-s-locks-people-up-at-a-higher-rate-than-any-other-country/?utm_term=.f2825393593a


To sum up in terms I'm confident you can relate to, the UK resembles an online forum that forgives (excuses) repeat offenders (serial rule breakers) who are clearly guilty and merit a long sentence (ban).