AProudLefty
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The problem is that after the attempt, the cop is no longer in danger. So we'll see how it plays out in the courtroom.
Pence now showing his "closet racist" tendencies as well.
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The problem is that after the attempt, the cop is no longer in danger. So we'll see how it plays out in the courtroom.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Nope. It's an observation, not an attack.
Then I guess I should be more clear. SxS seemed to understand the question. Then gave me the proper answer.
Nope. Observation.
See? That wasn't so hard, was it? And no this one is not an ad hominem.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Forget it, T.A. Perhaps you're right. I should have been more clear. But by now it should be clear.
SxS said that some aren't lying, just believing the narrative wrong.
SxS said that some aren't lying, just believing the narrative wrong.
Brooks had a long history of violence, so that lends credence to the idea that he was putting up quite a fight. What was shown in the bodycam footage was already pretty intense.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Why wouldn't Pence say BLM? That's a pretty bad move because of the black voters.
Not to mention I heard it said that this cop knew this creep well enough to know what to do.
Maybe, although it's kind of refreshing in a way. So many celebrities and public figures have been kissing BLM's ass lately, but Pence didn't.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Well we could look at the studies and statistics. And as the old saying goes, that which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Cops can't defend themselves? WTF. Have you got examples? Cops wear riot gear, have guns ,tear gas and clubs while wearing kevlar. Poor babies, how will the get along? They have an overwhelming advantage is every incident.
Legally defend themselves. Yes, they have the equipment to take care of business, but when you have politically motivated DAs that pander to mindless mobs (like what's happening in Atlanta right now), then cops basically go on strike, as they should.
Honestly, I hope Atlanta makes the same mistake as Minneapolis. If we can get both Atlanta and Minneapolis to go full Mad Max, it will help illustrate just how insane BLM and the left in general have become.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
LOL
I would laugh as well, but I have a feeling more than just Atlanta and Minneapolis are headed this way.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
I truly doubt it. We have survived through worse times like the 60's.
I can agree with that, although the 60s didn't involve disbanding the police. We also didn't experience a pandemic of this magnitude at that time either. 2020 has been one hell of a year.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Yeah. Well one city disbanded the police with no problem before. Can't remember when and where.
But we'll shall see. I wonder if the second wave is going to be much worse.
Sandy Springs, GA technically did this, although all it amounted to was replacing the cops with a private security force.
Either way, even if the second wave ends up being about the same as the first, cities with shutdown orders and few (or no) police are going to be fucked. Then, add the fact that private gun sales are at a historic high, and you have a perfect recipe for basically The Purge.
AProudLefty
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I love that movie.
Anyway, that's essentially what a few people want - replacing the cops with something better. Generally they just want to spend more on other essential services and not much on unnecessary arsenal and militarized police. Improving the training and programs and such.
They're just tired of seeing so many people being hurt unnecessarily.
There are aspects to having a private security alternative that are better. Granted, that does tend to favor the wealthy more than the current system.
If it were just a matter of better training, I'd be ok with that, but BLM seems to be making much more extreme demands than that.
Another ridiculous notion coming from them and others is ending prisons or releasing "non-violent" offenders en masse.
One thing people don't like to talk about is that there is evidence that the reason why violent and property crimes have consistently fallen since the 80s in most areas is because of the high incarceration rate. I'm not saying a police state is a good thing, but this connection is somewhat disturbing.
It essentially implies that a significant portion of the public is prone towards crime in general, and that poverty really has little to do with it.
For example, West Virginia is poorer today than it was in the 60s, but crime is down. Incarceration is higher, however. Many areas fit this situation.
AProudLefty
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I have heard that but who said that and what context?
I used to live in WV. The reason (I believe) that the reason for the state becoming poorer is because of the decline of coal mining.
This is one of the most recent examples: https://www.newsweek.com/list-deman...ck-doctors-black-patients-end-prisons-1510323
"The movement calls for abolishing imprisonment and replacing it with restorative/transformative accountability programs." Some of the other things mentioned I'm not necessarily against, but a lot of leftists seem to have this idea that everyone can be redeemed. That's pretty naive.
I can see making certain offenses eligible for "restorative" programs, but certainly not violent offenders.
Makes sense. But if we go with conventional progressive thinking, the crime should be higher there now, and yet it isn't.
A much stronger correlation seems to involve cultural standards. Some cultures react more violently to their surroundings than others.