Pence Won The Debate!

The fly had the best moment. It's arrival put the "talking-past-each-other-excuse-for-a-debate" in its rightful place.
 
I’m disappointed at the way both Trump and Pence have mishandled the ‘COVID mishandling’ meme. So much of it is based on lies and misinformation I could have given better answers on it.

For example, how many times has Fauci said Trump did everything Fauci recommended? If Trump followed the advice of his medical advisers and things went south—then it’s the fault of his advisers.

It should have been exactly that easy but they both whiffed on it. And as Jane Fonda was transparent enough to admit—“COVID was a godsend for the left.”

That’s undeniable.

It was a godsend to the left only in the way Trump completely fucked it up. Yes, "that's undeniable". On Fauci, he's often been at odds with Trump but careful to keep himself from getting canned. Day before yesterday he was less careful in pointing to the Covid outbreak at the White House as an example of what happens when things are done wrong.
 
Kamala ceded honesty and integrity when she absolutely refused to answer the "packing the court question."

Using the Rubric Template for scoring formal debate, the VP won.
 
Kamala ceded honesty and integrity when she absolutely refused to answer the "packing the court question."

Using the Rubric Template for scoring formal debate, the VP won.

Refusing to answer—is an answer. These people need defeated or they will turn this country upside down.
 
Kamala ceded honesty and integrity when she absolutely refused to answer the "packing the court question."

Using the Rubric Template for scoring formal debate, the VP won.

Must feel good to be objective in applying that template, right Earl.

Pence showed his contempt for women by consistently interrupting Harris and similarly disrespecting the moderator. Maybe he thinks the strategy will help the ticket. Good luck with that. Harris was a disappointment. For someone with a reputation as a skilled litigator her cross examinations of Pence were a dud.
 
Must feel good to be objective in applying that template, right Earl.

Pence showed his contempt for women by consistently interrupting Harris and similarly disrespecting the moderator. Maybe he thinks the strategy will help the ticket. Good luck with that. Harris was a disappointment. For someone with a reputation as a skilled litigator her cross examinations of Pence were a dud.

I'm pleased as punch that you recognize my objectivity, Marty.

Page showed extreme bias when she did not press Kamala to answer the "packing the court" question. Kamala never answered the question and the VP had to tell the audience that she did not.

Page showed extreme bias when she did not press Kamala about interrupting the VP.

Several of Kamala's statements about the president and white supremacists have already been refuted. She was not truthful.

The VP won the debate.
 
Must feel good to be objective in applying that template, right Earl.

Pence showed his contempt for women by consistently interrupting Harris and similarly disrespecting the moderator. Maybe he thinks the strategy will help the ticket. Good luck with that. Harris was a disappointment. For someone with a reputation as a skilled litigator her cross examinations of Pence were a dud.

Can't help but be impressed by the coincidence that every Trump supporter at this forum thinks Pence won and every Biden supporter thinks Harris one.
 
Can't help but be impressed by the coincidence that every Trump supporter at this forum thinks Pence won and every Biden supporter thinks Harris one.

It just proves that the Pence supporters are objective and the Biden supporters are not, Marty.

I E-Mailed my college prof. who was my debate tutor and moderator of hundreds of formal debates and his score was similar to mine...Harris-12, Pence-16. He is a liberal, Marty but an honest liberal.
 
Kamala ceded honesty and integrity when she absolutely refused to answer the "packing the court question."

Using the Rubric Template for scoring formal debate, the VP won.

Earl, Trump and the scum-lican senate have been packing the courts with right wing ideologues for judges for the last 4 years, so why is it so terrible for the other side to do it??????????????????????????????
 
Most liberals are more honest than non-liberals and more open minded, a condition for being honest, Earl. But I guarantee you there are plenty of honest liberals who take a different view from your professor. I thought also that Harris fell short in many of her answers, or non answers, but Pence's edge if he had one on debate points he lost with his robotic personality and bland discourtesy. In a boring man contest he would be hard to beat.
 
Earl, Trump and the scum-lican senate have been packing the courts with right wing ideologues for judges for the last 4 years, so why is it so terrible for the other side to do it??????????????????????????????

The president and the Senate determine who will be on the Supreme Court. That's Constitutional. Elections have consequences.

Increasing the size of the Supreme Court is not a function of either. FDR tried that and he lost, Trumper.
 
Most liberals are more honest than non-liberals and more open minded, a condition for being honest, Earl. But I guarantee you there are plenty of honest liberals who take a different view from your professor. I thought also that Harris fell short in many of her answers, or non answers, but Pence's edge if he had one on debate points he lost with his robotic personality and bland discourtesy. In a boring man contest he would be hard to beat.

"Robotic personality and bland discourtesy" are not elements of formal debate, Marty.

"Boring" isn't either.

None of these are listed on the Rubric Template.

What the citizens think is another animal and a CNN poll is not an indicator of what the citizens think.

The election will indicate how the voters feel about the teams...Trump/Pence and Biden/Harris.

Of course the Democrat mail in ballot fraud will be in play too.
 
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