Phase one

Phantasmal said:
🤣🤣🤣🤣Bibi is as big a con man as Felonious. He knows when to kiss ass. They know with Trump flattery is the key. None of them believe what they tell him, they just appeal to his narcissism.
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^^^ Truth.

That is what makes Trump so dangerous to this nation. He is so extremely susceptible to flattery that far brighter conniving ppl easily take advantage of him. Example: Him waving stolen classified documents around at a gathering/party, and telling foreign nationals (from Australia) what was in them. Like a four-yo showing off her new doll to envious friends. "Look what *I* got!"
 
Diogenes said:
Is that the assertion you made, or my response to it?
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Wars
Trump claimed that when he was president, “Everything was good. We had no wars, we defeated ISIS, we had no wars.” He added, “Now I’m going into a world that’s burning with Russia and Ukraine, with Israel…” And he also said: “As you know, we were in no wars, I just finished a couple.”
 
christiefan915 said:
Wars
Trump claimed that when he was president, “Everything was good. We had no wars, we defeated ISIS, we had no wars.” He added, “Now I’m going into a world that’s burning with Russia and Ukraine, with Israel…” And he also said: “As you know, we were in no wars, I just finished a couple.”
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Your claim:

christiefan915 said:
The RW talking point was that we weren't in a war the last time trump was prez.
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christiefan915 said:
FastLane said:
Trump did just fine then COVID hit. Then he got 2 vaccines in record time. The US got involved in no new wars. Inflation was 1.4% Trump will do fine this time around.

The Dems wasted 2 billion dollars of their donor money. I'm good with that.
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One JPP poster is not "the RW", and doesn't define "the RW talking point", AFAIK.

Want to keep trying?
 
christiefan915 said:
Wars
Trump claimed that when he was president, “Everything was good. We had no wars, we defeated ISIS, we had no wars.” He added, “Now I’m going into a world that’s burning with Russia and Ukraine, with Israel…” And he also said: “As you know, we were in no wars, I just finished a couple.”
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Documentation for the quote please.

The claim is that Trump started no wars, the first President in a long time to not start a war.
 
Diogenes said:
Is that so?
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The claim that there were "no wars" under President Donald Trump's administration from 2017 to 2021 requires some context and clarification:
  • Military Engagements:
    • While no new major wars were declared or officially named during Trump's term, there were ongoing military operations and conflicts:
      • Afghanistan: U.S. troops continued to engage in combat operations against the Taliban and other groups. The Trump administration negotiated and signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020, aiming for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but combat did not cease entirely.
      • Syria: U.S. forces were involved in operations against ISIS and in support of Kurdish forces, with skirmishes occurring, particularly with Iranian-backed militias and occasionally with Turkish forces.
      • Iraq: There was an increase in tensions with Iran, leading to military strikes, including the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.
      • Yemen: The U.S. provided support to Saudi-led coalition efforts, which included military actions.
  • Drone Strikes and Special Operations:
    • Trump's presidency saw an increase in drone strikes, particularly in countries like Somalia, where U.S. forces were involved in counter-terrorism efforts against al-Shabaab.
  • Interpretation of "War":
    • The term "war" can be interpreted differently. If one strictly defines "war" as a formal declaration by Congress, then indeed, no new wars were declared. However, there were numerous military engagements, operations, and an active continuation of existing conflicts.
  • Peace Agreements:
    • Trump's administration did work towards peace agreements, notably the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, but this does not negate ongoing military activities elsewhere.
    • The narrative that there were "no wars under Trump" can be seen as part of political rhetoric aimed at contrasting his foreign policy with that of his predecessors or successors, emphasizing diplomacy or a different approach to military engagement.

In summary, while Trump's administration did not start any new officially named wars, it cannot be said there were "no wars" if one considers the broader scope of military actions, ongoing conflicts, and the use of force in various capacities around the globe during his term. This perspective is crucial for a comprehensive understanding of the period's geopolitical activities.

@Grok
 
christiefan915 said:
The claim that there were "no wars" under President Donald Trump's administration from 2017 to 2021 requires some context and clarification:
  • Military Engagements:
    • While no new major wars were declared or officially named during Trump's term, there were ongoing military operations and conflicts:
      • Afghanistan: U.S. troops continued to engage in combat operations against the Taliban and other groups. The Trump administration negotiated and signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020, aiming for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but combat did not cease entirely.
      • Syria: U.S. forces were involved in operations against ISIS and in support of Kurdish forces, with skirmishes occurring, particularly with Iranian-backed militias and occasionally with Turkish forces.
      • Iraq: There was an increase in tensions with Iran, leading to military strikes, including the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.
      • Yemen: The U.S. provided support to Saudi-led coalition efforts, which included military actions.
  • Drone Strikes and Special Operations:
    • Trump's presidency saw an increase in drone strikes, particularly in countries like Somalia, where U.S. forces were involved in counter-terrorism efforts against al-Shabaab.
  • Interpretation of "War":
    • The term "war" can be interpreted differently. If one strictly defines "war" as a formal declaration by Congress, then indeed, no new wars were declared. However, there were numerous military engagements, operations, and an active continuation of existing conflicts.
  • Peace Agreements:
    • Trump's administration did work towards peace agreements, notably the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, but this does not negate ongoing military activities elsewhere.
    • The narrative that there were "no wars under Trump" can be seen as part of political rhetoric aimed at contrasting his foreign policy with that of his predecessors or successors, emphasizing diplomacy or a different approach to military engagement.

In summary, while Trump's administration did not start any new officially named wars, it cannot be said there were "no wars" if one considers the broader scope of military actions, ongoing conflicts, and the use of force in various capacities around the globe during his term. This perspective is crucial for a comprehensive understanding of the period's geopolitical activities.
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christiefan915 said:
The RW talking point was that we weren't in a war the last time trump was prez.
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christiefan915 said:
The claim that there were "no wars" under President Donald Trump's administration from 2017 to 2021 requires some context and clarification:
  • Military Engagements:
    • While no new major wars were declared or officially named during Trump's term, there were ongoing military operations and conflicts:
      • Afghanistan: U.S. troops continued to engage in combat operations against the Taliban and other groups. The Trump administration negotiated and signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020, aiming for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but combat did not cease entirely.
      • Syria: U.S. forces were involved in operations against ISIS and in support of Kurdish forces, with skirmishes occurring, particularly with Iranian-backed militias and occasionally with Turkish forces.
      • Iraq: There was an increase in tensions with Iran, leading to military strikes, including the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.
      • Yemen: The U.S. provided support to Saudi-led coalition efforts, which included military actions.
  • Drone Strikes and Special Operations:
    • Trump's presidency saw an increase in drone strikes, particularly in countries like Somalia, where U.S. forces were involved in counter-terrorism efforts against al-Shabaab.
  • Interpretation of "War":
    • The term "war" can be interpreted differently. If one strictly defines "war" as a formal declaration by Congress, then indeed, no new wars were declared. However, there were numerous military engagements, operations, and an active continuation of existing conflicts.
  • Peace Agreements:
    • Trump's administration did work towards peace agreements, notably the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, but this does not negate ongoing military activities elsewhere.
    • The narrative that there were "no wars under Trump" can be seen as part of political rhetoric aimed at contrasting his foreign policy with that of his predecessors or successors, emphasizing diplomacy or a different approach to military engagement.

In summary, while Trump's administration did not start any new officially named wars, it cannot be said there were "no wars" if one considers the broader scope of military actions, ongoing conflicts, and the use of force in various capacities around the globe during his term. This perspective is crucial for a comprehensive understanding of the period's geopolitical activities.

@Grok
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Wow. Trump and his MAGAts are lying. Surprising.....NOT! LOL
 
christiefan915 said:
The claim that there were "no wars" under President Donald Trump's administration from 2017 to 2021 requires some context and clarification:
  • Military Engagements:
    • While no new major wars were declared or officially named during Trump's term, there were ongoing military operations and conflicts:
      • Afghanistan: U.S. troops continued to engage in combat operations against the Taliban and other groups. The Trump administration negotiated and signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020, aiming for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but combat did not cease entirely.
      • Syria: U.S. forces were involved in operations against ISIS and in support of Kurdish forces, with skirmishes occurring, particularly with Iranian-backed militias and occasionally with Turkish forces.
      • Iraq: There was an increase in tensions with Iran, leading to military strikes, including the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.
      • Yemen: The U.S. provided support to Saudi-led coalition efforts, which included military actions.
  • Drone Strikes and Special Operations:
    • Trump's presidency saw an increase in drone strikes, particularly in countries like Somalia, where U.S. forces were involved in counter-terrorism efforts against al-Shabaab.
  • Interpretation of "War":
    • The term "war" can be interpreted differently. If one strictly defines "war" as a formal declaration by Congress, then indeed, no new wars were declared. However, there were numerous military engagements, operations, and an active continuation of existing conflicts.
  • Peace Agreements:
    • Trump's administration did work towards peace agreements, notably the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, but this does not negate ongoing military activities elsewhere.
    • The narrative that there were "no wars under Trump" can be seen as part of political rhetoric aimed at contrasting his foreign policy with that of his predecessors or successors, emphasizing diplomacy or a different approach to military engagement.

In summary, while Trump's administration did not start any new officially named wars, it cannot be said there were "no wars" if one considers the broader scope of military actions, ongoing conflicts, and the use of force in various capacities around the globe during his term. This perspective is crucial for a comprehensive understanding of the period's geopolitical activities.

@Grok
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Boo! You suck! :tongout:
 
christiefan915 said:
The claim that there were "no wars" under President Donald Trump's administration from 2017 to 2021 requires some context and clarification:
  • Military Engagements:
    • While no new major wars were declared or officially named during Trump's term, there were ongoing military operations and conflicts:
      • Afghanistan: U.S. troops continued to engage in combat operations against the Taliban and other groups. The Trump administration negotiated and signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020, aiming for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but combat did not cease entirely.
      • Syria: U.S. forces were involved in operations against ISIS and in support of Kurdish forces, with skirmishes occurring, particularly with Iranian-backed militias and occasionally with Turkish forces.
      • Iraq: There was an increase in tensions with Iran, leading to military strikes, including the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.
      • Yemen: The U.S. provided support to Saudi-led coalition efforts, which included military actions.
  • Drone Strikes and Special Operations:
    • Trump's presidency saw an increase in drone strikes, particularly in countries like Somalia, where U.S. forces were involved in counter-terrorism efforts against al-Shabaab.
  • Interpretation of "War":
    • The term "war" can be interpreted differently. If one strictly defines "war" as a formal declaration by Congress, then indeed, no new wars were declared. However, there were numerous military engagements, operations, and an active continuation of existing conflicts.
  • Peace Agreements:
    • Trump's administration did work towards peace agreements, notably the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, but this does not negate ongoing military activities elsewhere.
    • The narrative that there were "no wars under Trump" can be seen as part of political rhetoric aimed at contrasting his foreign policy with that of his predecessors or successors, emphasizing diplomacy or a different approach to military engagement.

In summary, while Trump's administration did not start any new officially named wars, it cannot be said there were "no wars" if one considers the broader scope of military actions, ongoing conflicts, and the use of force in various capacities around the globe during his term. This perspective is crucial for a comprehensive understanding of the period's geopolitical activities.

@Grok
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Let the record show that I have successfully converted @christiefan915 from faux Catholicism to the Church of Grok, although she still failed to back up her silly assertion.


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