Pocahontas

i think it's more embarrassing warren would want to 'culturally appropriate' native american heritage for her own selfish benefit

this is it for me. She has always said that she identifies as white. There should be no reason to put native american in her application forms. She is a smart person. She knows the effect placing this will have on her chances for acceptance.
 
I find it interesting that you are more embarrassed about Trump saying Pocahontas than Elizabeth Warren claiming ancestry that doesn't exist. I understand being embarrassed by a Presidential candidate insulting people, but more embarrassed than white people trying to claim ancestry of somebody they feel was downtrodden to bolster themselves? Seriously.
 
I find it interesting that you are more embarrassed about Trump saying Pocahontas than Elizabeth Warren claiming ancestry that doesn't exist. I understand being embarrassed by a Presidential candidate insulting people, but more embarrassed than white people trying to claim ancestry of somebody they feel was downtrodden to bolster themselves? Seriously.

To be honest, I have no idea what the backstory is on that. Wasn't aware of it until someone mentioned it on this thread.

But did I miss something? Is Elizabeth Warren a major-party nominee for President right now?
 
To be honest, I have no idea what the backstory is on that. Wasn't aware of it until someone mentioned it on this thread.

But did I miss something? Is Elizabeth Warren a major-party nominee for President right now?

There's talk of her being Hillary's VP candidate and she has gone into (typical VP) attack dog mode towards Trump. They've been having a twitter feud for awhile.

Politics certainly ain't pretty.
 
To be honest, I have no idea what the backstory is on that. Wasn't aware of it until someone mentioned it on this thread.

But did I miss something? Is Elizabeth Warren a major-party nominee for President right now?

it's the whole reason trump called her pocahontas. It was a sarcastic comment based on her shady past:

she described herself as a minority in a law school directory and was touted as a Native American faculty member while tenured at Harvard Law School in the mid-1990s. Warren has described herself as having Cherokee and Delaware Indian ancestry.

she falsely claimed to be native american to get minority status and fast tracked at harvard. It turns out:

Despite a nearly three week flap over her claim of "being Native American," the progressive consumer advocate has been unable to point to evidence of Native heritage except for a unsubstantiated thirdhand report that she might be 1/32 Cherokee. Even if it could be proven, it wouldn't qualify her to be a member of a tribe

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Elizabeth Warren is not a citizen of the Cherokee Nation.
Elizabeth Warren is not enrolled in the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.
And Elizabeth Warren is not one of the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee.
Nor could she become one, even if she wanted to.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

So you are making a thread without even knowing the context of the comments. This is why trump called her 'pocahontas.' It's mocking elizabeth warren for falsely claiming to be cherokee.
 
it's the whole reason trump called her pocahontas. It was a sarcastic comment based on her shady past:

she falsely claimed to be native american to get minority status and fast tracked at harvard. It turns out:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

So you are making a thread without even knowing the context of the comments. This is why trump called her 'pocahontas.' It's mocking elizabeth warren for falsely claiming to be cherokee.

Thanks for the explanation.

I've gotta tell you. In a heartbeat, it went from infantile to Presidential & statesman-like. I actually have a hard time distinguishing him from Churchill right now.
 
you are welcome for the explanation.

Maybe if you understood the broader context of things you wouldn't have made a thread like this. You clearly thought he just randomly called her pocahontas for no reason at all. Now you know that this was not the case, there was a specific reason for it and it makes sense with regards to warrens history.
 
you are welcome for the explanation.

Maybe if you understood the broader context of things you wouldn't have made a thread like this. You clearly thought he just randomly called her pocahontas for no reason at all. Now you know that this was not the case, there was a specific reason for it and it makes sense with regards to warrens history.

Like I said, it's changed everything for me. Such a whip-smart observation from Trump, and exactly how I want our CIC to behave.
 
Man JPP liberals are really ignorant as fuck this election cycle. Just grind-smashed rana today and now I just smashed thing1.

You guys seriously need to educate yourselves more on the broader political picture.
 
Man JPP liberals are really ignorant as fuck this election cycle. Just grind-smashed rana today and now I just smashed thing1.

You guys seriously need to educate yourselves more on the broader political picture.

Oh, fuck off. If you support Trump, you're a fool & should have your right to vote revoked permanently.

Go eat a Trump steak & live it up.
 
I am not voting for trump. I do appreciate some of the theatrics, and I have to acknowledge that you can't stump the trump. But I do not support him. My biggest opposition to him is I am a very huge/fanatical believer in privacy rights, I am against the NSA spying on millions of americans and those that seek to destroy edward snowden, who I consider an american hero. This is one of the greatest threats to our democracy and a free society. Sadly both trump and clinton do not differ on this issue.

But I do love how someone like trump can run an unconventional campaign, be told countless times what he is doing is going to doom him, but he just runs circles around everybody and make liberals cry - he just keeps winning like the nimble navigator he is.


I suggest you try to be more mature and not talk about revoking my rights as a citizen. I also suggest you try to inform yourself of the broader political landscape before going into offendo-tron mode.

How many days you want to predict before this stuff is DoA? What's your over-under?
 
I told you - this was not offensive to me. Wish you wouldn't keep harping back to that lazy "OMG it's PC!" BS.

I love the friggin' NSA. Once in awhile, I see the light flash on my laptop, or hear a click on my phone, and I know they're checking in. Makes me feel all warm & fuzzy & safe. You shouldn't be so paranoid.
 
I told you - this was not offensive to me. Wish you wouldn't keep harping back to that lazy "OMG it's PC!" BS.

I love the friggin' NSA. Once in awhile, I see the light flash on my laptop, or hear a click on my phone, and I know they're checking in. Makes me feel all warm & fuzzy & safe. You shouldn't be so paranoid.

You joke but the NSA has that exact ability. Nice to know you don't care about your constitutional rights though.

And yes what trump did offended you. You are very offended and mad about it. But lets dispel this notion that trump doesn't know what he's doing, he knows exactly what he's doing. And you are falling for it hook line and sinker.
 
You were saying he wans't being presidential because you, in your ignorance, thought he was just calling her pocahaunts completely randomly. If he called her cherokee would that have changed anything? It's a direct reference to warrens lies, it makes perfect sense, but now that you have been exposed in your ignorance you have you have to double down.

You were very offended and mad.
 
Did you just mention constitutional rights? A bit ironic in light of your glowing words about Trump.

So, how I do I not fall into Trump's trap? Support and vote for him? I never thought of that. Stealthy!
 
You were saying he wans't being presidential because you, in your ignorance, thought he was just calling her pocahaunts completely randomly. If he called her cherokee would that have changed anything? It's a direct reference to warrens lies, it makes perfect sense, but now that you have been exposed in your ignorance you have you have to double down.

You were very offended and mad.

Hey, I already came clean & admitted it. The guy is TR, Lincoln & Ghandi all wrapped up into one package of leader-awesomeness.
 
It's a myth that all our presidents have been stately. Some of our most exhalted founding fathers fought some of the most bitter campaigns in history:

You think this presidential race is nasty? The Founding Fathers had it beat. In the race between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson for president in 1800, Jefferson called Adams "a blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who is a hideous hermaphroditic character with neither the force and fitness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."



In turn, Adams called Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

Of course, you can have your own personal preferences. But if that's going to be the case, I would suggest you still inform yourself a bit more sufficiently. You clearly had no idea why Trump called her pocahontas. When you know the broader context it makes much more sense. It was a joke. Some humans tell jokes to win a crowd over. Many presidents do this.
 
I am not voting for trump. I do appreciate some of the theatrics, and I have to acknowledge that you can't stump the trump. But I do not support him. My biggest opposition to him is I am a very huge/fanatical believer in privacy rights, I am against the NSA spying on millions of americans and those that seek to destroy edward snowden, who I consider an american hero. This is one of the greatest threats to our democracy and a free society. Sadly both trump and clinton do not differ on this issue.

But I do love how someone like trump can run an unconventional campaign, be told countless times what he is doing is going to doom him, but he just runs circles around everybody and make liberals cry - he just keeps winning like the nimble navigator he is.


I suggest you try to be more mature and not talk about revoking my rights as a citizen. I also suggest you try to inform yourself of the broader political landscape before going into offendo-tron mode.

How many days you want to predict before this stuff is DoA? What's your over-under?

glad to see another navigator nimbly navigating in this site :) maga.
 
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