Polarizing? They're Kiddin, Right?

Robo

Robo

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Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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The left is laughable, Robo.
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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Trump and his base are highly polarizing, but hardcore Democrats are just as polarizing. The two party system has created horse race politics, where people are more interested in rooting for their side and trashing the other side than focusing on genuine, intelligent solutions to our country's ills. If you think Trump and the Republicans are polarizing but not Democrats, or vice versa, you're complicit in the very problem you're bitching about.
 
TrippyHippy said:
Trump and his base are highly polarizing, but hardcore Democrats are just as polarizing. The two party system has created horse race politics, where people are more interested in rooting for their side and trashing the other side than focusing on genuine, intelligent solutions to our country's ills. If you think Trump and the Republicans are polarizing but not Democrats, or vice versa, you're complicit in the very problem you're bitching about.
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Will you rise up? I am waiting.
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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What the hell does "the fact that most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature" mean?

Trump is the most polarizing political figure in American history, and the most shameful part is that it is by design. His shtick is to create a melodrama, and to do such he has to have the "bad guys," which in his case is just about anyone who critizes or even questions him. For example, you can't label all Democrats, close to forty percent of the nation, as evil and enemies, and not separate people

I can't recall any President in my lifetime, or have I ever read of any such past President, who went out of his way to personally label others as "losers," "idiots," "stupid," "uneducated," "evil," etc., and that is way beyond just being "obnoxious linguistically"

As for the media, yes, some are aggressive in checking what Trump says and does, just as others defend him endlessly, but it is their job, think of it this way, if they weren't for them who would ever expose the thousands of flat out lies and fabrications that Trump has given us? When a nation relies on its leader to dictate what we are to believe we have sunk into an autocracy
 
archives said:
What the hell does "the fact that most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature" mean?

Trump is the most polarizing political figure in American history, and the most shameful part is that it is by design. His shtick is to create a melodrama, and to do such he has to have the "bad guys," which in his case is just about anyone who critizes or even questions him. For example, you can't label all Democrats, close to forty percent of the nation, as evil and enemies, and not separate people

I can't recall any President in my lifetime, or have I ever read of any such past President, who went out of his way to personally label others as "losers," "idiots," "stupid," "uneducated," "evil," etc., and that is way beyond just being "obnoxious linguistically"

As for the media, yes, some are aggressive in checking what Trump says and does, just as others defend him endlessly, but it is their job, think of it this way, if they weren't for them who would ever expose the thousands of flat out lies and fabrications that Trump has given us? When a nation relies on its leader to dictate what we are to believe we have sunk into an autocracy
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While I tend to agree that Trump by his very nature is polarizing, but I disagree that the polarizing started with the left's constant attacks on Bush. Then along came Obama who helped drive the wedge deeper. No I don't think Trump is any worse than Obama when it comes to dividing the nation.
 
Grumpy said:
While I tend to agree that Trump by his very nature is polarizing, but I disagree that the polarizing started with the left's constant attacks on Bush. Then along came Obama who helped drive the wedge deeper. No I don't think Trump is any worse than Obama when it comes to dividing the nation.
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If you are looking to point fingers, start with Newt and the GOP House during the Clinton era, which coincidently matches the rise of talk radio. Reagan and Bush had O'Neil to work with, then along came Newt, who's only goal was to promote Newt

Yes, the left did attack Bush, as the right attacked Obama, but neither President went out of their way to describe the sources of criticism as "evil" or "enemies" of the American people, nor did they play one group off against another for their own political gain

As I noted, Trump's shtick is purposely designed to divide Americans
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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Facts have a well-known anti-Trump bias.
 
archives said:
If you are looking to point fingers, start with Newt and the GOP House during the Clinton era, which coincidently matches the rise of talk radio. Reagan and Bush had O'Neil to work with, then along came Newt, who's only goal was to promote Newt

Yes, the left did attack Bush, as the right attacked Obama, but neither President went out of their way to describe the sources of criticism as "evil" or "enemies" of the American people, nor did they play one group off against another for their own political gain

As I noted, Trump's shtick is purposely designed to divide Americans
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I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. All politicians try to make the other side look wrong. In Newts case Clinton moved to the right and stole Newts thunder. (Yes I liked Clinton). Trump is a big mouth that engages his mouth before his brain and when called on something his ego makes him double down instead of saying what he should have said in the first place. So I disagree it is on purpose but his personality does divide people. I don't like Trump the man but I think overall he is doing a fair job as president on most things.
 
Grumpy said:
While I tend to agree that Trump by his very nature is polarizing, but I disagree that the polarizing started with the left's constant attacks on Bush. Then along came Obama who helped drive the wedge deeper. No I don't think Trump is any worse than Obama when it comes to dividing the nation.
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What a surprise the old Confederate hates Obama!
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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The Obama wasn't polarizing?
 
TrippyHippy said:
Trump and his base are highly polarizing,
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You can make a case that Trump is polarizing, but I'd like to see your case for his base being polarizing. His base are blue collar and farmers and small business folks, all hard working and simply tired of overregulation and taxation killing their jobs, their businesses and their country's borders being unprotected. How does any of that make them polarizing?

hardcore Democrats are just as polarizing. The two party system has created horse race politics, where people are more interested in rooting for their side and trashing the other side than focusing on genuine, intelligent solutions to our country's ills.
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What about Trump's "focusing on" tax reform and deregulation and stimulating the best economy since Clinton's dot.com bubble, and his exceptional efforts to protect our borders and solving the illegal immigration problem, and Trump's efforts to negotiate fair better trade deals with our trading partners, and Trump's efforts to get the members of NATO pay up their fair share and stop taking advantage of the United States military protection, and how about Trump's efforts to establish a nuclear free North Korea? How's all of that for focusing on America's ills and creating intelligent solutions?
 
Robo said:
Democrats and especially leftist media like to blame Donald Trump for "polarizing" the nation. That's their latest complaint about this President. They ignore the fact trhat most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature to begin with.

Media likes to pretend phony outrage at Trump for saying "the media is the enemy of the people." Actually Trump is simply saying that the leftist media is the enemy of the people, and he's right! The facts are while Trump is often crude and obnoxious linguestically, it's actually leftist media that's inspiring violence directed at Trump, his cabinet, his family and his supporters. Just watch CNN, MSNBC and ABC, CBS and NBC nighty news cast. 90% of their political coverage is "trash Trump" any old way they can think of. If you want to see "POLARIZING," just watch "Trump Dump TV." It's absurd and disgusting!
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Trump is the most polarizing president since Lincoln but not 1/100 of AL's character.
 
archives said:
What the hell does "the fact that most New Yorkers are naturally polarizing by nature" mean?
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Have you ever been to New York? Not exactly the friendliest place on planet earth, huh? Trash mouth is New Yorker's accent on English.

Trump is the most polarizing political figure in American history, and the most shameful part is that it is by design. His shtick is to create a melodrama, and to do such he has to have the "bad guys," which in his case is just about anyone who critizes or even questions him. For example, you can't label all Democrats, close to forty percent of the nation, as evil and enemies, and not separate people
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Trump is polarizing! I never argued he wasn't. So are one hell of a load of New Yorkers in general. He was raised there and ran his businesses there. "MOST" polarizing, is the issue of this thread. I know because it's my thread. I say the leftist media, the Democrat politicians and Democrat party put Trump to shame when it comes to "POLARIZING."

I can't recall any President in my lifetime, or have I ever read of any such past President, who went out of his way to personally label others as "losers," "idiots," "stupid," "uneducated," "evil," etc., and that is way beyond just being "obnoxious linguistically"
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Well, that makes us even because in all of my 82 years on earth I have never seen a national media, Democrat politicians and the Democrat Party so bleeping obnoxious, nasty, uncivil and POLARIZING toward a United States President, his cabinet and his family.. They promote advocate and cheer for actual violence, they ignore his great economy, his jobs creation for all, especially blacks and Hispanics, his getting in the face of the Europeans who have shirked their NATO support, his efforts to denuclearize North Korea, His getting us out of the outrageous, stupid Iran deal. His defeating ISIS and they fight against his attempts to secure our borders.

As for the media, yes, some are aggressive in checking what Trump says and does, just as others defend him endlessly, but it is their job,
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It's nobody's job to attempt to crucify and frame this President with false accusations, and fake news and promotions and advocating violence on an American President, his cabinet and family I don't give a rat's ass who he is, and that's exactly what leftist media, Democrat politicians and the Democrat Party is doing!
 
Grumpy said:
I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. All politicians try to make the other side look wrong. In Newts case Clinton moved to the right and stole Newts thunder. (Yes I liked Clinton). Trump is a big mouth that engages his mouth before his brain and when called on something his ego makes him double down instead of saying what he should have said in the first place. So I disagree it is on purpose but his personality does divide people. I don't like Trump the man but I think overall he is doing a fair job as president on most things.
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Disagree with Newt, all you have to do is compare the beforehand cooperation between Regan/Bush and O'Neil and then look at not only the lack of cooperation between Newt and Clinton but the vicious attacks Newt his position in the House to launch at Clinton

Trump's lies and fabrications are totally by design, that is why he can't ever correct or admit he was wrong. The goal is to muddle what is exactly the truth so that people actually begin to question what is real and not real. His followers in that case look to him to establish what is valid, he knows precisely what he is doing

And I'd have to also disagree on his job performance, which I'm sure you would expect, domestically and on the international stage he is setting America back, just his purposely dividing people, playing one group off against another, is proof he is doing damage to the Nation
 
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