Pre-emptive gun law argument.

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
Five years ago, a friend of mine living in Florida said this during a discussion regarding the gun laws and mass shootings. It speaks for itself, and I submit this before the next mass shooting and SOS arguments occur:


".... Actually, most NRA members DON'T subscribe to the propaganda we see on TV. The NRA is playing to the extremist 4-5% of Americans who don't think our guns laws need at least a little tweaking. Over 95% of Americans in several surveys which include gun-owners, non-gun-owners, conservatives, & liberals alike, feel that we need to do 4 things. 1) Get rid of the so-called "Gun-show Loophole" in which people privately buying/selling guns at gun-shows, online, or out of their homes don't need background check like everybody else. 2) Get weapons of war out of the hands of civilians. 3) Make all background checks go into a Federal Database so someone in one state's law enforcement has access to background information entered by someone in another state. 4) Do something to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Advocates for the mentally say that HIPAA laws protect the health information privacy of these people, but if health care professionals are allowed to tell prior sex partners if their patient has a sexually transmitted disease and doctors are required by law to report to the DMV that someone is diagnosed with epilepsy, then they should also be allowed to report those being treated for mental illness to the Federal database to keep someone from buying a weapon."
 
Reality: Florida is about to get permitless concealed carry. :awesome:

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local...-monday-on-bill-that-allows-permitless-carry/

https://www.local10.com/news/local/...in-tallahassee-amid-republican-supermajority/

Many other states are doing it as well. Isn't America great?

"The controversial “constitutional carry,” or permitless carry, legislation has gained momentum during this year’s legislative sessions in at least seven states, including Georgia, Wisconsin, Alabama, South Carolina, Indiana, Ohio and Nebraska."

"As of March, 21 states do not have a policy that requires a permit to carry concealed guns in public, according to data compiled by Everytown for Gun Safety, a non-profit that focuses on gun violence prevention."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/05/us/permitless-carry-laws-advance-in-states/index.html

That would make up to 29 states!

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Yes America is great and we will not allow democrats to piss on the constitution and take away our gun rights
 
Had my first hi-power rifle at age 12. Shot my first deer at 13 (hunting alone). Tuned that rifle to be the most accurate rifle in my collection.
 
the gun show loophole is a myth. there is no loophole

Isn't it amusing those without any knowledge spout their lies.
The fact is, anyone selling a gun at a gun show must go through a FFL licensed gun shop or dealer, including background checks.
 
Isn't it amusing those without any knowledge spout their lies.
The fact is, anyone selling a gun at a gun show must go through a FFL licensed gun shop or dealer, including background checks.

any individual, or any dealer????? private individuals do not have to do background checks at gun shows or selling one from their driveway. The law was INTENDED to do that. It was written with that private seller exemption, therefore it is NOT a loophole.
 
any individual, or any dealer????? private individuals do not have to do background checks at gun shows or selling one from their driveway. The law was INTENDED to do that. It was written with that private seller exemption, therefore it is NOT a loophole.

PA's largest gun show in Harrisburg will not allow anyone to sell a firearm (taking possession) on their property. Any gun sold there must be shipped to an FFL holder.
Smaller shows have also followed those requirements because of liability issues. Private one on one sales off premises is still legal.
 
PA's largest gun show in Harrisburg will not allow anyone to sell a firearm (taking possession) on their property. Any gun sold there must be shipped to an FFL holder.
Smaller shows have also followed those requirements because of liability issues. Private one on one sales off premises is still legal.

I can go to any gun show here in TX and walk around offering to sell my AR to anyone with the cash meeting my price. I am not a licensed dealer, so I am exempt from having to run a background check on anyone.
 
I can go to any gun show here in TX and walk around offering to sell my AR to anyone with the cash meeting my price. I am not a licensed dealer, so I am exempt from having to run a background check on anyone.

We can't here in PA anymore last I checked.
Myself, I haven't purchased a firearm from a dealer in 40+ years. All transactions were/are from close friends, relatives or members of my gun club.
 
We can't here in PA anymore last I checked.
Myself, I haven't purchased a firearm from a dealer in 40+ years. All transactions were/are from close friends, relatives or members of my gun club.

same here. every single firearm I have has either been purchased from an individual or I inherited. I will not buy from a dealer. There is absolutely no authority or justification for any government entity to know what firearms I possess.
 
same here. every single firearm I have has either been purchased from an individual or I inherited. I will not buy from a dealer. There is absolutely no authority or justification for any government entity to know what firearms I possess.

Actually, the M-1 Garands I bought from the Army are registered, but I have only one handgun I bought from a dealer back in the late 70's. I doubt those records still exist.
 
PA's largest gun show in Harrisburg will not allow anyone to sell a firearm (taking possession) on their property. Any gun sold there must be shipped to an FFL holder.
Smaller shows have also followed those requirements because of liability issues. Private one on one sales off premises is still legal.

Any gun show guns in FL have to go through an FFL.
 
Actually, the M-1 Garands I bought from the Army are registered, but I have only one handgun I bought from a dealer back in the late 70's. I doubt those records still exist.

There's a place outta Georgia that has M-1s.

By the time I found that, I heard my cousin who I was gonna get one for was dying. :(

No point now if he can't enjoy it.
 
Five years ago, a friend of mine living in Florida said this during a discussion regarding the gun laws and mass shootings. It speaks for itself, and I submit this before the next mass shooting and SOS arguments occur:


".... Actually, most NRA members DON'T subscribe to the propaganda we see on TV. The NRA is playing to the extremist 4-5% of Americans who don't think our guns laws need at least a little tweaking. Over 95% of Americans in several surveys which include gun-owners, non-gun-owners, conservatives, & liberals alike, feel that we need to do 4 things. 1) Get rid of the so-called "Gun-show Loophole" in which people privately buying/selling guns at gun-shows, online, or out of their homes don't need background check like everybody else. 2) Get weapons of war out of the hands of civilians. 3) Make all background checks go into a Federal Database so someone in one state's law enforcement has access to background information entered by someone in another state. 4) Do something to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Advocates for the mentally say that HIPAA laws protect the health information privacy of these people, but if health care professionals are allowed to tell prior sex partners if their patient has a sexually transmitted disease and doctors are required by law to report to the DMV that someone is diagnosed with epilepsy, then they should also be allowed to report those being treated for mental illness to the Federal database to keep someone from buying a weapon."

Do you own a gun or have you ever tried to purchase a gun?
 
Actually, the M-1 Garands I bought from the Army are registered, but I have only one handgun I bought from a dealer back in the late 70's. I doubt those records still exist.

I guarantee you that if the dealer closed, the ATF has it. If the dealer is still open, they have it.
 
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