President Trump blames Obama for the Iran nuclear program

volsrocks said:
Law breakers cash is kept every day


Iran is a sponsor of Terrorism...sponsoring terrorism is a crime under international law.

So if we seize drug cartel money....drug dealing is a crime, do we give it back to them? It was also their money
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Israel is a sponsor of terrorism. Netanyahu has launched his illegal wars in the region in order to keep a peace deal from ever happening. Saudi Arabia was working to broker a deal in the region. Iran was open to returning to Obama era discussions.

Netanyahu will spend the rest of his life in prison the moment his terrorist actions cease. He needs conflict, and trump needs theme parks.
 
serendipity said:
I doubt that the Russians and Chinese would agree with you. However we can make sure that the Iranians never make nuclear weapons.
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The Iranians have not been trying to make a nuclear weapon for over 20 years, and there are so many problems on my table....do you have a better argument?
 
ziggy said:
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Obama funded a lot of it, and John Kerry and Hillary did their best to move it along. No secret there.

Biden lifted sanctions on them and they pocketed a lot more thanks to Biden. Democrats really love the idea of nuking Israel as well as the U.S. for some reason. One guess would be they got kicked back a cut, plus a deal to get a cut of the oil sales.

 
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christiefan915 said:
Color me unsurprised that you'd take the position of keeping something that's not yours.

On his worst day Obama was a better diplomat than trump on his best day. In fact, it would be hard to call trump "diplomatic" on any day. He's just a whiny baby who has a hissy fit when people don't toe his line.
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Why are the Left so concerned about Iran and the money Obama gave them? That money came from the Shah era and had nothing to do with the Islamists. Obama caused many of the problems of today, no wonder he doesn't want to talk about it.
 
serendipity said:
Why are the Left so concerned about Iran and the money Obama gave them? That money came from the Shah era and had nothing to do with the Islamists. Obama caused many of the problems of today, no wonder he doesn't want to talk about it.
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Yes. Democrats claiming they don't want wars n stuff doesn't remotely fit the actions of the Party leaders they adore and defend no end. They actively encourage wars and terrorism and fund it whenever they can.
 
EdwinA said:
Obama funded a lot of it, and John Kerry and Hillary did their best to move it along. No secret there.

Biden lifted sanctions on them and they pocketed a lot more thanks to Biden. Democrats really love the idea of nuking Israel as well as the U.S. for some reason. One guess would be they got kicked back a cut, plus a deal to get a cut of the oil sales.
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serendipity said:
Why are the Left so concerned about Iran and the money Obama gave them? That money came from the Shah era and had nothing to do with the Islamists. Obama caused many of the problems of today, no wonder he doesn't want to talk about it.
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EdwinA said:
Yes. Democrats claiming they don't want wars n stuff doesn't remotely fit the actions of the Party leaders they adore and defend no end. They actively encourage wars and terrorism and fund it whenever they can.
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"Weaponized stupidity" ☝🏼
 
serendipity said:
I doubt that the Russians and Chinese would agree with you. However we can make sure that the Iranians never make nuclear weapons.
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This entire situation is just like the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, when bush lied to us that Iraq had nukes that could hit the US in 30 minutes. Next we'll be hearing that the ayatollah was in Niger trying to buy yellowcake, followed by more questionable or outright false "intel." Don't you see the parallels?
 
serendipity said:
Why are the Left so concerned about Iran and the money Obama gave them? That money came from the Shah era and had nothing to do with the Islamists. Obama caused many of the problems of today, no wonder he doesn't want to talk about it.
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The only people who keep bringing up that money are righties. It's on their list of grievances against the left.
 
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christiefan915 said:
The only people who keep bringing up that money are righties. It's on their list of grievances against the left.
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That's just ridiculous, the Obama money gave Iran the means to enrich uranium by buying thousands of centrifuges and to build missiles. It's funny how nobody on the Left has explained why Iran wanted to enrich the uranium to 60% when the only practical use is to make bombs.

I don't see that many parallels with Iraq, although as you recall the Israelis bombed their reactor in 1981 Israel launched an air strike on the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq, also known as the Tammuz 1 reactor, which was still under construction.
 
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serendipity said:
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That's just ridiculous, the Obama money gave Iran the means to enrich uranium by buying thousands of centrifuges and to build missiles. It's funny how nobody on the Left has explained why Iran wanted to enrich the uranium to 60% when the only practical use is to make bombs.

I don't see that many parallels with Iraq, although as you recall the Israelis bombed their reactor in 1981 Israel launched an air strike on the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq, also known as the Tammuz 1 reactor, which was still under construction.
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I was just reading about enrichment and the article says weapons-grade is above 90%. Tell me what you agree or disagree with in the article.

"Highly enriched uranium (HEU) is anything enriched above 20% and weapon-grade uranium is commonly considered to have been enriched above 90% U-235. However, some research reactors use 90% enriched U-235 to produce medical isotopes, so there are civilian applications for this fuel too."

I recall this line from the Downing Street memo: "[George W.] Bush wanted to remove Saddam Hussein, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." There's no doubt in my mind that trump would "fix the facts around the policy" in a heartbeat in order to advance his agenda.

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Fact Sheet: Uranium Enrichment: For Peace or for Weapons - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

Centrifuge technology is at the heart of the enrichment process, and the line between its uses for civilian and military purposes is hard to distinguish. Once a country has mastered this technology, the centrifuges can be reconfigured into cascades to either produce fuel for an...
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serendipity said:
I doubt that the Russians and Chinese would agree with you. However we can make sure that the Iranians never make nuclear weapons.
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All three of them combined aren't even a 'superpower'. India is already stealing business from Red China, who has zero friends in Asia, unless you count North Korea; so is Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, etc. Russia is literally just a gas station, as McCain said, and soon the Mullahs in Iran will be hanging from their office windows while crowds below cheer. Red China is certainly not going to rush in and save them.
 
christiefan915 said:
This entire situation is just like the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, when bush lied to us that Iraq had nukes that could hit the US in 30 minutes. Next we'll be hearing that the ayatollah was in Niger trying to buy yellowcake, followed by more questionable or outright false "intel." Don't you see the parallels?
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Saddam himself said he had them. Your idiot blathering from hindsight is just dumbassery .
 
serendipity said:
Thats

That's just ridiculous, the Obama money gave Iran the means to enrich uranium by buying thousands of centrifuges and to build missiles. It's funny how nobody on the Left has explained why Iran wanted to enrich the uranium to 60% when the only practical use is to make bombs.

I don't see that many parallels with Iraq, although as you recall the Israelis bombed their reactor in 1981 Israel launched an air strike on the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq, also known as the Tammuz 1 reactor, which was still under construction.
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These parrots don't know anything; they just parrot whatever fever swamp shit they're told to.
 
ziggy said:
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There is no "blame" for Iran having a nuclear program. Iran can have a nuclear program. In fact, Iran's nuclear program is totally legal and is fully registered with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Iran has every right to seek to provide its people with energy; this is not in dispute.

Israel, on the other hand, has a very illicit nuclear program, one that they will not register with the IAEA and whose extent and capabilities they will not divulge. Israel has illicit nuclear weapons and this is also not in dispute.

There is no credibility in the cries of a country with illicit nuclear weapons calling for another country to be attacked for trying to bring nuclear energy to its people, especially when that country is on its second year of a genocide elsewhere.

*IF* the concern is that Iran is trying to build a nuclear weapon, then the correct response is that the Iranian nuclear program will not be allowed to proceed without inspectors, to ensure that no nuclear weapon is being developed.

Iran had agreed to such inspections, and was just about to sign a deal with Trump ... when Israel panicked and attacked Iran specifically to sabotage any peace deal that might have ensued. Israel does not want peace; Israel wants to save its "permanent victim" status, regardless of the cost.

Israel can attack Iran all they want; that is of little concern to the US, but Israel should be doing it without any assistance or financial or military support from the US. Trump should never allow the sovereignty of the United States to be subverted to the will of the Israeli government. The US should not be funding Israel whatsoever, especially their genocide and their assassinations and their bombings and their sniper fire aimed at children's heads.

 
EdwinA said:
Saddam himself said he had them. Your idiot blathering from hindsight is just dumbassery .
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Child please. Saddam said he had them before he destroyed them in the mid-1990s,. Do I have to bring up his son-in-law's testimony for the 100th time to prove it? Bush and Blair were bold-faced liars but you fell for their propaganda like the idiotic little righty you are.

"Kamel had told his interviewers that “after the Gulf war, Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks and the missiles to deliver them.” All that was retained were research details—blueprints, computer disks and microfiches—and the molds for missile warheads. In other words, Kamel’s remarks reveal the opposite of what the Bush administration alleges."

 
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