Private sector, not public, to blame for Obamacare website failure.

Of course, the conservatives will try to spin this as government incompetence in hiring a bunch of morons, but really, this boils down to "Obama tried to trust the private sector instead of getting it done in-house, and it turned out to be a mistake...again."

Stupid Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...any-behind-obamacare-site-has-checkered-past/

So you think that the Government has the internal personnel to develop a massive web site to handle something as massive as healthcare constituting 1/5th of the US economy?

Where do you arrive at such an uninformed conclusion?

Most major corporations outsource such an endeavor as well; do you know why?

But more so, why do you think that the client, that would be Obama administration, do not have a LOT to do with how this web site was designed and how it was tested?

This isn't about Republican spin you incredibly poorly informed dimwit, it is about this administrations gross incompetence regarding everything it touches, but particularly about the signature partisan legislative effort that defines his entire Presidency.

I would think that the most important legacy of ones Presidency would have gotten the attention, the programming and testing correct. But I guess for the dullard class in America, results are not important, but rather, how much more you care than anyone else on the planet.
 
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Exactly! (Colbert style)

We need to get our bunkers ready because this poorly regulated site is a sign of tyranny and dictatorship! Can we join Obamacare? NO! THAT IS DICTATORSHIP!

The website was clearly made to intake all of our personal information and has little to do with healthcare. It's just another "Socialist" scheme to make us all "Socialists" even though no Right Winger knows what Socialism is. We assume it is the welfare state, but who googles anything that Fox News tells us, it's instantly solidified when they say it because all MSM is trash. Never trust anyone but your proven source of information, otherwise you are a weakness to the movement, said every cult ever.

Another incredibly stupid partisan post that only the dullard class in America can fall for.

You can't comprehend what socialism is because you really are THAT stupid.

But just for shits and giggles, and to remove all doubt how incredibly stupid you really are, please explain how forcing all Americans to by a product with the threat of a fine and forcing them into a Government mandated plan if Americans choose to do nothing, is not Socialism.

Yes Anti-Thinker, you really are THAT incredibly stupid.
 
It's amazing...just like the 9/11 theorists believe that Bush fucked up everything BUT the Tower Conspiracy, these nutjobs somehow believe that the Left has fucked up everything BUT some insanely intricate plot to socialize everything through the use of Obamacare.

Because, you know, there's no way ANY SANE PERSON would ever just want to live in a country full of healthy, not-broke people. There has to be more to it than that.

I'm amused by this dullard claim which presumes that by forcing all Americans to buy some form of health INSURANCE, that this will result in healthier life styles and end poverty. What facts do you have to support such an incredibly stupid and false assertion?
 
Watch "Loose Change" and explain to me why the Government was running a program that uses a remote control plane to crash into buildings. Then tell me why the people pictured as the hijackers were found alive. Then explain to me why it's a "Right Wing" thing and not a "Federal Reserve Corporation" thing.

Also, explain to me why a health insurance Corporation was one of Obama's biggest donors last election. Top ten.

I'm not against you, I'm against parties and their bias information.

Further proof that not only are you really THAT stupid, but also wear a tin foil hat.

You take dimwit to epic proportions.
 
Of course, the conservatives will try to spin this as government incompetence in hiring a bunch of morons, but really, this boils down to "Obama tried to trust the private sector instead of getting it done in-house, and it turned out to be a mistake...again."

Stupid Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...any-behind-obamacare-site-has-checkered-past/

And that is why Obamacare should be government run. Even the insurance providers should be government run. When your dealing with the private sector, all it takes is one guy that disagrees with the site/Obama to sabotage it. But I believe this is all theatre and meant for mass distraction as usual.
 
and what about the other examples of healthcare arround the world?


why is it you right wing fucks NEVER trust the system our founders left us with checks and balances in it?

Desh stop talking about things you don't understand. The Founders never would have supported this monstrosity. You are a liar
 
And that is why Obamacare should be government run. Even the insurance providers should be government run. When your dealing with the private sector, all it takes is one guy that disagrees with the site/Obama to sabotage it. But I believe this is all theatre and meant for mass distraction as usual.

Interesting screen name that is ironic considering that nothing above could be mistaken for "wise".

So you believe that this gross incompetence on the part of the Obama Administration was an act of sabotage by private insurers and has nothing to do with this Administration?

No one but Anti-Thinker, Jarod and Evince can be THAT stupid.
 
Desh stop talking about things you don't understand. The Founders never would have supported this monstrosity. You are a liar

Can one be a liar if one is wallowing in repugnant ignorance and merely stupid? To be a liar, does one not have to know the facts and therefore lie about them?

In defense of Desh, I do not believe she is capable of lying because she is so incredibly stupid one could argue she is borderline retarded, and therefore, incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction, reality from fantasy.

Just saying ...
 
Can one be a liar if one is wallowing in repugnant ignorance and merely stupid? To be a liar, does one not have to know the facts and therefore lie about them? In defense of Desh, I do not believe she is capable of lying because she is so incredibly stupid one could argue she is borderline retarded, and therefore, incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction, reality from fantasy. Just saying ...

Good point.
 
Of course, the conservatives will try to spin this as government incompetence in hiring a bunch of morons, but really, this boils down to "Obama tried to trust the private sector instead of getting it done in-house, and it turned out to be a mistake...again."

Stupid Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...any-behind-obamacare-site-has-checkered-past/


Aren't these the same people that produced the software for the IRS, Medicare, etc....???

Not only did these firms fuck up, but the Obamabots he hired to oversee this project fucked up as well in not making absolutely sure
this software was adequate to handle the job
....
but as in all the rest, the IRS debacle, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, etc., no one will be held responsible, no one will lose a penny in wages, no one will be fired...
it will be blamed on someone else or something else, that can't be specifically id'ed .....maybe even G. Bush will be blamed

Drudge handles 20 some Million hits a day with no problem, so do several social networks without difficulty....this program can't even handle one million....
 
Interesting screen name that is ironic considering that nothing above could be mistaken for "wise".

So you believe that this gross incompetence on the part of the Obama Administration was an act of sabotage by private insurers and has nothing to do with this Administration?

No one but Anti-Thinker, Jarod and Evince can be THAT stupid.

Always remember this quote and even you may become wiser....

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
 
Always remember this quote and even you may become wiser....

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

Roosevelt was a Big Government Socialist leaning fool who didn't see WWII coming; nothing quoted from him is wise. But how does this relate to the incredibly stupid comments you make?
 
um hey idiot,

how is this going to make anything collapse?


just how fucking stupid are you?

Independence Blue Cross in Philadelphia, 24,000 policyholders are being notified of cancellation.
Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual-market customers
Kaiser Permanente in California, which sent notices to 160,000 policy holders
Florida Blue has dropped 300,000 policies.
Blue Shield of California sent nearly 119,000 cancellation notices to individuals, and nearly two-thirds of this group were notified of rate increases
Home Depot (HD) has decided to stop offering health insurance for part-time employees, moving them over to Obamacare instead.
Trader Joe’s has decided to stop offering health insurance for part-time employees, moving them over to Obamacare
Independence, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent.

Over 500,000 individuals have seen their insurance policies canceled in just 3 states....less than a month into Obamacare.
 
Roosevelt was a Big Government Socialist leaning fool who didn't see WWII coming; nothing quoted from him is wise. But how does this relate to the incredibly stupid comments you make?

He was also a freemason. If you think he didn't know WWII was coming, your off your rocker. Freemasons at the highest levels have been war profiteering for centuries. They are in cahoots with the bankers. Yes I know this is a freemason board.lol

I believe you are mistaken. The people that rule your world are so heavily entrenched, they can pretty much manipulate 90% of what happens. When the 10% happens they go into damage control. With the aid of things like Media spin.


"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)


How does it relate to the comment I made? I SAID IT WAS ALL THEATRE. Probably staged for public distraction. Try to keep up!
 
Independence Blue Cross in Philadelphia, 24,000 policyholders are being notified of cancellation.
Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual-market customers
Kaiser Permanente in California, which sent notices to 160,000 policy holders
Florida Blue has dropped 300,000 policies.
Blue Shield of California sent nearly 119,000 cancellation notices to individuals, and nearly two-thirds of this group were notified of rate increases
Home Depot (HD) has decided to stop offering health insurance for part-time employees, moving them over to Obamacare instead.
Trader Joe’s has decided to stop offering health insurance for part-time employees, moving them over to Obamacare
Independence, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent.

Over 500,000 individuals have seen their insurance policies canceled in just 3 states....less than a month into Obamacare.


I call bullshit.

Cite.
 
So you think that the Government has the internal personnel to develop a massive web site to handle something as massive as healthcare constituting 1/5th of the US economy?

No, I don't. I think that the government should hire as public workers the people necessary to do that.


administrations gross incompetence regarding everything it touches

Unfounded assertion. Cite or shut up.



I'm amused by this dullard claim which presumes that by forcing all Americans to buy some form of health INSURANCE, that this will result in healthier life styles and end poverty. What facts do you have to support such an incredibly stupid and false assertion?

I didn't say either of those things. You're appealing to the extremes. It's a rhetorical fallacy. Try actually reading the words I said and arguing against them instead of against some fictional argument you'd prefer to argue against.
 
He was also a freemason. If you think he didn't know WWII was coming, your off your rocker. Freemasons at the highest levels have been war profiteering for centuries. They are in cahoots with the bankers. Yes I know this is a freemason board.lol

I believe you are mistaken. The people that rule your world are so heavily entrenched, they can pretty much manipulate 90% of what happens. When the 10% happens they go into damage control. With the aid of things like Media spin.


"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)


How does it relate to the comment I made? I SAID IT WAS ALL THEATRE. Probably staged for public distraction. Try to keep up!

Another tin foil hat wearer I see.

Run along; time is too short for dimwits and idiots.
 
Originally Posted by Truth Detector
So you think that the Government has the internal personnel to develop a massive web site to handle something as massive as healthcare constituting 1/5th of the US economy?

No, I don't. I think that the government should hire as public workers the people necessary to do that.

Your original statement:

Originally Posted by Essence
Of course, the conservatives will try to spin this as government incompetence in hiring a bunch of morons, but really, this boils down to "Obama tried to trust the private sector instead of getting it done in-house


So now you are attempting to walk this one back? Dimwit.

Originally Posted by Truth Detector
administrations gross incompetence regarding everything it touches

Unfounded assertion. Cite or shut up.

Benghazi: Obama's Actions Amount To A Shameful Dereliction Of Duty
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...ons-amount-to-a-shameful-dereliction-of-duty/

IRS Cover Up: Top IRS Official “Pleads the Fifth
http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/pleads-the-fifth/

How much damage did ATF's ill-fated gun-running sting do to war on drugs?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreig...ll-fated-gun-running-sting-do-to-war-on-drugs

Obama on health-care site: ‘There’s no excuse for the problems, and they are being fixed.’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...09d9ca-3a5a-11e3-a94f-b58017bfee6c_story.html

Dimwit.

Add to this his campaign lies of bringing the nation together, earning back the worlds respect and increasing deficits and the national debt faster than any President before him and you have the complete picture of a buffoon that only the most ignorant dullards can believe in.

Yes, you really are THAT stupid.

Originally Posted by Truth Detector
I'm amused by this dullard claim which presumes that by forcing all Americans to buy some form of health INSURANCE, that this will result in healthier life styles and end poverty. What facts do you have to support such an incredibly stupid and false assertion?

I didn't say either of those things. You're appealing to the extremes. It's a rhetorical fallacy. Try actually reading the words I said and arguing against them instead of against some fictional argument you'd prefer to argue against.

Your claim:

Originally Posted by Essence
Because, you know, there's no way ANY SANE PERSON would ever just want to live in a country full of healthy, not-broke people. There has to be more to it than that.


Are you walking this one back as well?

Its official; you’re an epic dimwit that gives stupid a bad name. Yes, you really are THAT stupid.
 
Aren't these the same people that produced the software for the IRS, Medicare, etc....???

Not only did these firms fuck up, but the Obamabots he hired to oversee this project fucked up as well in not making absolutely sure
this software was adequate to handle the job
....
but as in all the rest, the IRS debacle, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, etc., no one will be held responsible, no one will lose a penny in wages, no one will be fired...
it will be blamed on someone else or something else, that can't be specifically id'ed .....maybe even G. Bush will be blamed

Drudge handles 20 some Million hits a day with no problem, so do several social networks without difficulty....this program can't even handle one million....

Either Obama has never heard of Beta testing or couldn't find enough people who believed in it, to make the attempt.
 
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