Prophet For A Dying Empire

blackascoal said:
Bldg 7 is the smoking gun among a rubble full of smoking guns.
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Building 7 is so obviously a controlled demolition only the truly retarded can deny it. It falls with no resistance at all. A burning building has NEVER done that in the history of burning buildings.
 
Socrtease said:
Building 7 is so obviously a controlled demolition only the truly retarded can deny it. It falls with no resistance at all. A burning building has NEVER done that in the history of burning buildings.
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I completely agree.

Never happened before in the history of buildings, fire, or Man .. yet it happened 3 times on 9/11 to buildings with different catalysts.

How could people not question this ..

.. my sig line explains it.
 
Socrtease said:
Building 7 is so obviously a controlled demolition only the truly retarded can deny it. It falls with no resistance at all. A burning building has NEVER done that in the history of burning buildings.
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I never would have put you down as a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. WT7 had a completely rational explanation based on its peculiar construction and the fact that the collapse of WT1 and WT2 cut off water supplies for the sprinkler systems in WT7.

The investigation team considered the possibility of other factors playing a role in the collapse of WTC 7, including the possible use of explosives, fires fed by the fuel supply tanks in and under the building, and damage from the falling debris of WTC 1.
The team said that the smallest blast event capable of crippling the critical column would have produced a “sound level of 130 to 140 decibels at a distance of half a mile,” yet no noise this loud was reported by witnesses or recorded on videos.
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Read more at: http://phys.org/news138546437.html#jCp
 
Don Quixote said:
why are we in Okinawa, south Korea and Germany?
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All those regions/countries have far cheaper (and often better) health care than the US. None of their citizens go bankrupt because of a catastrophic illness.

We have 700 bases around the world. How many bases do we have in Germany? That must be a real bitch serving over there.

Also, think about this; anytime anywhere an air conditioner breaks or tree limb falls on US base housing, the US taxpayer gets to foot the bill for the repair.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I never would have put you down as a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. WT7 had a completely rational explanation based on its peculiar construction and the fact that the collapse of WT1 and WT2 cut off water supplies for the sprinkler systems in WT7.



Read more at: http://phys.org/news138546437.html#jCp
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That building was a steel core building with only the occasional fire. If you can show me ONE SINGLE building that FREE FELL due to a fire inside that had steel pillars as it's core I will stop talking about it. You can't so don't try.
 
Socrtease said:
That building was a steel core building with only the occasional fire. If you can show me ONE SINGLE building that FREE FELL due to a fire inside that had steel pillars as it's core I will stop talking about it. You can't so don't try.
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It seems to me that people are too ready to believe the fantastical over the mundane. It is as bonkers as the loonies who deny that NASA landed on the Moon.
 
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Socrtease said:
That building was a steel core building with only the occasional fire. If you can show me ONE SINGLE building that FREE FELL due to a fire inside that had steel pillars as it's core I will stop talking about it. You can't so don't try.
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There wasn't an occasional fire, there was fire on at least ten floors and the lowest six floors were completely burnt out.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
There wasn't an occasional fire, there was fire on at least ten floors and the lowest six floors were completely burnt out.
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Sporadic fires, not at all along the entire floor. But lets say there were fires on ALL floors. Never before or since has a steel pillar core building EVER brought down by fire alone. The building free fell. Straight down on itself. No single physicist can legitimately explain this. NOT ONE.
 
Socrtease said:
Sporadic fires, not at all along the entire floor. But lets say there were fires on ALL floors. Never before or since has a steel pillar core building EVER brought down by fire alone. The building free fell. Straight down on itself. No single physicist can legitimately explain this. NOT ONE.
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There was a single point of failure in column 79 which caused the catastrophic collapse. This website explains it in great detail.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf
 
Socrtease said:
Sporadic fires, not at all along the entire floor. But lets say there were fires on ALL floors. Never before or since has a steel pillar core building EVER brought down by fire alone. The building free fell. Straight down on itself. No single physicist can legitimately explain this. NOT ONE.
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How many steel girder buildings have had enormous amounts of debris falling on them from above?
 
blackascoal said:
Oh really?

Science determines that collapsing mass ALWAYS seeks the path of least resistance .. thus, collapsing buildings/structures fall over <the path of least resistance> .. they do not fall straight down uniformly.

Additionally, ever heard of the Law of Falling Objects?

It's science that even a 3rd grader understands and is taught.

Not sure what 'science' you're talking about, but the 'official story' was bullshit top to bottom.
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All 9/11 truther claims have been meticulously refuted. The Popular Mechanics refutation is a good one, but there are many others.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

'Truther' claims are based on the complete opposite of the scientific method: start with a conclusion, and then stretch the facts to support your idea. Basically no different than what young earth creationists and other religious crackpots do every day.

If you are actually interested in the truth, this seems pretty good so far. Just started it yesterday.

http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Myths-Conspiracy-Theories/dp/158816635X
 
SJBBF said:
I agree for the most part Don... we just don't have to apologize for it.
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empire building sucks, i do not see where we should apologize for anything if we retreat from being the world's police

my only problem with the UN is that it is controlled by mostly irresponsible power seekers and yammerheads
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
It seems to me that people are too ready to believe the fantastical over the mundane. It is as bonkers as the loonies who deny that that NASA landed on the Moon.
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It's got to be something in the water. Elsewhere on this forum is a thread about the downfall of the nation at the hands of the government.

I'm more inclined to think the downfall of our nation will be at the hands of conspiracies and mass insanity the world hasn't seen since Hitler convinced an entire country to hate a group of people.
 
blackascoal said:
Oh really?

Science determines that collapsing mass ALWAYS seeks the path of least resistance .. thus, collapsing buildings/structures fall over <the path of least resistance> .. they do not fall straight down uniformly.

Additionally, ever heard of the Law of Falling Objects?

It's science that even a 3rd grader understands and is taught.

Not sure what 'science' you're talking about, but the 'official story' was bullshit top to bottom.
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bac, did you read the reports about the major design flaw that caused the building to collapse the way it did?

i studied math and science in secondary school and college. enough of what you say is true that some who do not know better will believe it, but you are wrong. once the 'pancake' effect started, the design of the building propagated it. the supports rather than being spread throughout the building were built into the outside portions of the structure not the inside.
 
Howey said:
It's got to be something in the water. Elsewhere on this forum is a thread about the downfall of the nation at the hands of the government.

I'm more inclined to think the downfall of our nation will be at the hands of conspiracies and mass insanity the world hasn't seen since Hitler convinced an entire country to hate a group of people.
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if a society changes too fast, then the conservative elements circle the wagons and look for a scapegoat
 
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