Putin kills or wounds ~half a million Russian soldiers to capture less than one percent of Ukrainian territory

Putin kills or wounds ~half a million Russian soldiers to capture less than one percent of Ukrainian territory​


You can accurately lay the blame for the war and all its casualties at the headstone of John McCain.
 
Althea said:
You called for an extremely limited 'defense only' posture by Ukraine, citing 'appearances'. I strongly disagreed. .
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No, I wrote that Ukraine would gain nothing by targeting Russian civilians in revenge strikes. We were discussing Russian strikes on civilians and civilian infrastructure. A vigorous defense of Ukraine was what I expected, and I was never against striking military assets in Russia: airfields, supply depots, etc.
 
Cypress said:
You are dumb. Defence is the proper British way of spelling it, and the Ukrainian Defence Ministry is probably trained to translate their press releases into British English. Most Europeans are trained in British English.

American and British intelligence puts total Russian casualties near 800,000

So considering 2024 is the bloodiest year of the war, 400k casualties in the last year is in the right ballpark, even if it's at the high end of the ballpark.
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Trump Dummy is not only dumb, but demented as proved by his drive-by, repetitive posting style.
 
moon said:

Putin kills or wounds ~half a million Russian soldiers to capture less than one percent of Ukrainian territory​


You can accurately lay the blame for the war and all its casualties at the headstone of John McCain.
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When the CIA catches up to you, dear, the bad news is that no one here will know what happened to you.
 
QUOTE=Cypress, January 22 2022;4918756] "Ukraine is not Chechnya, Georgia, or Moldava. Ukraine is a large country with a substantial military, capable of inflicting significant damage." [/QUOTE]
 
Cypress said:
No, I wrote that Ukraine would gain nothing by targeting Russian civilians in revenge strikes. We were discussing Russian strikes on civilians and civilian infrastructure. A vigorous defense of Ukraine was what I expected, and I was never against striking military assets in Russia: airfields, supply depots, etc.
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Nobody ever suggested striking civilian targets. Even though Putin was murdering thousands of innocent civilians. I said that Ukraine needs to be able to strike inside of Russia. Something that the Western world was against. This war could have been over years ago.

And I would suggest that if civilians were collateral damage in Russia, Putin would probably have been taken out by now. Russian civilians never felt the full brunt of the war that they supported. Granted...due to lies.
 
Cypress said:
Despite utilizing vast superiority in numbers and armaments, the past twelve months have seen Putin's forces claw back only around 1,609 square miles—chiefly in Donbas, which is a mere 0.69 percent of Ukrainian territory. This territorial expansion has come at an appalling human cost; Ukraine's Ministry of Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000, despite Putin's forces being bolstered by North Korean troops.

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This is all gonna change when Trump gives Putin the Lebensraum he's been wanting.

Trump will give us Peace in our Time!
 
Althea said:
Nobody ever suggested striking civilian targets. Even though Putin was murdering thousands of innocent civilians. I said that Ukraine needs to be able to strike inside of Russia. Something that the Western world was against. This war could have been over years ago.

And I would suggest that if civilians were collateral damage in Russia, Putin would probably have been taken out by now. Russian civilians never felt the full brunt of the war that they supported. Granted...due to lies.
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Okay, but my recollection is that thread was about Russian strikes on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, and whether Ukraine should respond in kind on Russian civilian infrastructure.

Cross border Ukrainian strikes on Russian military targets like airfields, command and control headquarters, supply depots manifestly makes sense and always has.
 
Cypress said:
Despite utilizing vast superiority in numbers and armaments, the past twelve months have seen Putin's forces claw back only around 1,609 square miles—chiefly in Donbas, which is a mere 0.69 percent of Ukrainian territory. This territorial expansion has come at an appalling human cost; Ukraine's Ministry of Defence estimates Russia's military casualties last year exceeded 430,000, despite Putin's forces being bolstered by North Korean troops.

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So, a radical Leftist tabloid in Ireland publishes something and you take it as gosphel.

The article self-links to other Irish Star (The Star) news articles in a case of circular citations.
 
Althea said:
We'll see if trump comes to his rescue. The most recent sanctions are finally crippling Putin's economy. Many economists are predicting that he will be flat broke by this fall.

I'm guessing he'll get much needed help when trump slashes Ukraine funding.
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I hope to share your optimism.

I've been hearing for three years how the Russian economy is beginning to feel the squeeze. I hope you are right, there seems to be real data showing structural problems for the Russian economy.

My concern is that if most Russians continue to believe they are fighting NATO for the sake of Russian security, they will likely tolerate a lot of pain.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, a radical Leftist tabloid in Ireland publishes something and you take it as gosphel.

The article self-links to other Irish Star (The Star) news articles in a case of circular citations.
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American and British intelligence have also been reporting massive Russian casualties.

I don't think Russia would have brought in the North Korean army unless they were having manpower issues
 
Cypress said:
Okay, but my recollection is that thread was about Russian strikes on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, and whether Ukraine should respond in kind on Russian civilian infrastructure.

Cross border Ukrainian strikes on Russian military targets like airfields, command and control headquarters, supply depots manifestly makes sense and always has.
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At the time, the allies feared Putin's use of nukes. So they wasted countless years and lives simply playing defense and imposing sanctions that were hard to enforce.

I do remember our discussion, and I wasn't in favor of Ukraine responding in kind to Putin's war crimes, but I remember stating that if there was collateral damage, that's on Putin.

And again...a way for the Russian people to fully experience the ramifications of Putin's war. They were being lied to, and the majority supported the war. Because their power wasn't taken out in the dead of winter.

Unless they were military aged men, that is.
 
Cypress said:
I hope to share your optimism.

I've been hearing for three years how the Russian economy is beginning to feel the squeeze. I hope you are right, there seems to be real data showing structural problems for the Russian economy.

My concern is that if most Russians continue to believe they are fighting NATO for the sake of Russian security, they will likely tolerate a lot of pain.
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With 21% inflation, and a lot of American companies gone, they are back to Cold War reality. The media keeps the citizens from finding the truth, but at this point there have to be small movements inside the nation that are getting it out.

I don't really share the optimism that the economists do, as China has been very happy to buy Russian oil at pennies on the dollar. I believe that they are just about full to capacity at this point. Europe did not renew the pipeline contract with Russia last week, and there have been new sanctions on shipping Russian oil.

It took way too much time, and way too many lives, but it does appear that without outside aid, Russia might finally be in trouble. It seems the international community is cracking down on the sanctions busting companies that have continued to do business with Putin.

Clearly, this is still speculation.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Is 2025 the year that Russia’s economy finally freezes up under sanctions?

It’s taken years, but the Russian economy now appears to be experiencing the full effects of international sanctions. The first signs appeared at the end of 2024.
www.atlanticcouncil.org www.atlanticcouncil.org
 
moon said:
I'll see if I can get the info on Israeli pilots out of them. Yeah. That would be worth some bucks.
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Go for it, sweetcheeks. President Trump is looking for any excuse to start bombing the shit out of you and your friends. :)
 
Cypress said:
T. A. Gardner said:
So, a radical Leftist tabloid in Ireland publishes something and you take it as gosphel.

The article self-links to other Irish Star (The Star) news articles in a case of circular citations.
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American and British intelligence have also been reporting massive Russian casualties.

I don't think Russia would have brought in the North Korean army unless they were having manpower issues
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Do you think it's odd that Terry claims to be a retired American sailor yet he always sides with Russia against the United States?
 
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