Quad squad race

Evmetro said:
White dna, skin tone range from white to dark brown.
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Well you're in the minority there. Most people wouldn't consider someone with dark brown skin to be white. Obama has white DNA, but because he's half Sub-Saharan African and has dark brown skin, people consider him black.

But alright, let's say that AOC is mixed, since her DNA is about half European and half American Indian. Racists don't like mixed people either. Mestizos, despite being part white, are still told by white racists to "go back" because they're still seen as foreigners for being mixed.
 
StoneByStone said:
Well you're in the minority there. Most people wouldn't consider someone with dark brown skin to be white. Obama has white DNA, but because he's half Sub-Saharan African and has dark brown skin, people consider him black.
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From wiki:

First introduced in the 1780s by members of the Göttingen School of History,[5] the term denoted one of three purported major races of humankind (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid).[6] In biological anthropology, Caucasoid has been used as an umbrella term for phenotypically similar groups from these different regions, with a focus on skeletal anatomy, and especially cranial morphology, over skin tone.[7] Ancient and modern "Caucasoid" populations were thus not exclusively "white," but ranged in complexion from white-skinned to dark brown.
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But alright, let's say that AOC is mixed, since her DNA is about half European and half American Indian. Racists don't like mixed people either. Mestizos, despite being part white, are still told by white racists to "go back" because they're still seen as foreigners for being mixed.
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You just said it yourself, "seen as foreigners". Foreigners are not a race! Racists believe one race is superior to another.

Mestizo is euphemism meant to hide one's shameful whiteness. You support the use of the word "mestizo" for the purpose of political gain and to hide shameful whiteness.

Two of the quad squad are white. Even if you were to overturn this, no evidence has come up that proves Trump believes his race is superior to another, let alone the race of his two fellow whites.
 
Evmetro said:
You just said it yourself, "seen as foreigners". Foreigners are not a race! Racists believe one race is superior to another.
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They're seen as foreigners BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WHITE.

Mestizo is euphemism meant to hide one's shameful whiteness. You support the use of the word "mestizo" for the purpose of political gain and to hide shameful whiteness.
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Nice try, but I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist.

Two of the quad squad are white. Even if you were to overturn this, no evidence has come up that proves Trump believes his race is superior to another, let alone the race of his two fellow whites.
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If you want to keep lying about thinking that, ok. But nobody is going to take you seriously.
 
StoneByStone said:
They're seen as foreigners BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WHITE.
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Being seen perceived as white by ignorant people is not what determines race, DNA does.

Nice try, but I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist.
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There is only one word in this word salad that describes a race, and the other two are lefty derived BS.

If you want to keep lying about thinking that, ok. But nobody is going to take you seriously.
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The two whites cannot be assigned alternative races, no matter how much lefties want them to be something else, or how ignorant people might be about race. You cannot change their DNA.

Please provide a succinct summary of what in quad-squad-gate qualifies as evidence that Trump believes his race is superior to another. Be sure to include which race Trump believes to be inferior, since this is a critical prerequisite for racism to exist.
 
Evmetro said:
Being seen perceived as white by ignorant people is not what determines race, DNA does.



There is only one word in this word salad that describes a race, and the other two are lefty derived BS.



The two whites cannot be assigned alternative races, no matter how much lefties want them to be something else, or how ignorant people might be about race. You cannot change their DNA.

Please provide a succinct summary of what in quad-squad-gate qualifies as evidence that Trump believes his race is superior to another. Be sure to include which race Trump believes to be inferior, since this is a critical prerequisite for racism to exist.
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I think you keep moving the goalposts because you don't want to admit what Trump said was racist.
 
StoneByStone said:
I think you keep moving the goalposts because you don't want to admit what Trump said was racist.
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Why don't you chronicle the history of the goal post movement? This will help us get everything sorted out.

Also, I see you were unable to provide a succinct summary of what in quad-squad-gate qualifies as evidence that Trump believes his race is superior to another. Be sure to include which race Trump believes to be inferior, since this is a critical prerequisite for racism to exist.
 
Evmetro said:
Why don't you chronicle the history of the goal post movement? This will help us get everything sorted out.

Also, I see you were unable to provide a succinct summary of what in quad-squad-gate qualifies as evidence that Trump believes his race is superior to another. Be sure to include which race Trump believes to be inferior, since this is a critical prerequisite for racism to exist.
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Trump believes that black and brown people are inferior and we know this because he used a common trope used to demean black and brown people.
Now you're going to move the goalposts by trying to redefine what whiteness is. You're also going to try deflecting by saying this is about immigration, not race. You'll even say that Trump can't be racist against Mestizos and Arabs because the US census doesn't recognize them as races.

You're either trolling or very very stupid.
 
StoneByStone said:
Trump believes that black and brown people are inferior and we know this because he used a common trope used to demean black and brown people.
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It is not racist to demean people of other races. If you want to make this case, you would need to show that it was because of race, not just directed at another race.

Now you're going to move the goalposts by trying to redefine what whiteness is.
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Whiteness is already defined, and I am not the one who wrote specified which five races the us cencus recognizes. All I am doing is rejecting faulty lefty notions of what the white race is, in favor of existing definitions and wiki articles. I am not the one who makes your two quad squadders white, they were born that way.


You're also going to try deflecting by saying this is about immigration, not race.
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It was YOU who said this was about being perceived as foreigners. Foreigners are not a race.

You'll even say that Trump can't be racist against Mestizos and Arabs because the US census doesn't recognize them as races.
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Damn straight! Racism REQUIRES race. no race means no racism. It is not me who is inventing this, racism has always been about race.
 
StoneByStone said:
Trump believes that black and brown people are inferior and we know this because he used a common trope used to demean black and brown people Blah blah blah...
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When you generalize all minorities as brown people, you are saying that they all look the same to you. You are a bigot for using this disgusting brown people trope.
 
Evmetro said:
When you generalize all minorities as brown people, you are saying that they all look the same to you. You are a bigot for using this disgusting brown people trope.
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:laugh:

I'm saying that minorities with brown skin, such as Mestizos and Arabs, are the target of Trump's racist trope. Minorities with black skin, such as Sub-Saharan Africans and Indigenous Australians, are also a target.
 
StoneByStone said:
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I'm saying that minorities with brown skin, such as Mestizos and Arabs, are the target of Trump's racist trope.
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You are interesting to debate with, but this is just wrong. You are trying to remove the race requirement for racism in order to make Trump's comments fit the definition of racism. It just doesn't work like that. There needs to be race for there to be racism. Period.
 
Evmetro said:
You are interesting to debate with, but this is just wrong. You are trying to remove the race requirement for racism in order to make Trump's comments fit the definition of racism. It just doesn't work like that. There needs to be race for there to be racism. Period.
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So here's the deal. I think you're smart enough to know that you're wrong here. If a person doesn't like Mestizos because they're half American Indian, that's racism. It doesn't become not racism because Mestizos are part white. And I don't believe that you're stupid enough to think that Mestizos are just white people in denial or something. Obama is half black and half white, surely you wouldn't say that calling him a nigger isn't racist because he's part white.

I know that you like Trump so you don't want to admit he's using racism, but no rational person is going to fall for that. Even Trumpsters know better, even if they don't admit it.
And really, what is gained by saying it's not REALLY racism because Mestizo and Arabic aren't races? Trump is still discriminating against people who aren't considered white by society. So what do you want to call that? Bigotry? Is that any better? Saying "Trump isn't a racist, he's actually a bigot" isn't a good selling point.
 
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