Raise The Minimum Wage!

We all have to start somewhere. Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be family support type of jobs. They usually were jobs for teens, and new comers to the work force to get them used to the fundamentals of working. My suggestion to those unhappy with their current jobs, are to further their skills, or education so that they can move out of minimum wage.

Yes, because everyone can be above average.
 
Denmark is not comparable to the US as far as systems go. Much different metrics when you are talking the sheer size of the US population v. Denmark.

Why would the US population have anything to do with it at all? You do realize that things scale, don't you? When looking at countries throughout the world, population has little to nothing to do with the size of the welfare state they're able to maintain.
 
how the fuck did you arrive at that ? talk about stupid. Raising taxes will also raise the costs so no, it's not only when idiots pay unskilled workers more than they producing

Workers are not paid what they produce. Any company that attempted such a policy would go out of business.
 
Why would the US population have anything to do with it at all? You do realize that things scale, don't you? When looking at countries throughout the world, population has little to nothing to do with the size of the welfare state they're able to maintain.

So minimum wage is a part of "the welfare state"? Thank you for admitting that.
 
Probably just enough so that profit margins remain the same. I mean, it's not like the owners are going to voluntarily take a pay cut. But in the same vein you'll effectively be paying managers and higher echelon people less, because their dollar will not have the purchasing power is once did, and they didn't get a pay raise.

The US already doesn't have enough inflation, and, again, the effect of raising the minimum wage would be absolutely overwhelmed by other far more significant factors.
 
Are the profit MARGINS also records? Because, ya know, inflation is a bitch.

If workers aren't getting paid, who's going to buy their goddamn products? You can gain an advantage over your enemy if you manage to have lower labor costs than him, but if you're all reducing labor costs willy nilly you're shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Workers are not paid what they produce. Any company that attempted such a policy would go out of business.

Not true at all...In my industry we are paid either by the mile, or by the load delivered on time. No time clocks at all.
 
Well scale and population size are pretty relevant things in the first place, so ignoring them isn't the best idea. Being a small nation allows them to operate a comparatively large government (for its population) more easily than we could. This in turn allows them to better focus on governmental luxuries.

It has more to do with social cohesion than anything else. A tiny nation full of different, bickering peoples that couldn't get along likely would not find much support for a welfare state either.
 
If workers aren't getting paid, who's going to buy their goddamn products? You can gain an advantage over your enemy if you manage to have lower labor costs than him, but if you're all reducing labor costs willy nilly you're shooting yourself in the foot.

This is a major problem with a service based economy...As for labor costs, maybe we should ask Jeffrey R. Immelt that question?
 
It would have to be the same relative percent, where else would money come from, thin air? You guys amaze me, you act like we can increase the cost of labor, and prices are just going to stay the same, the money just comes from wherever... out of the profits or something? You don't know, you don't care... you just want to scream and holler about the injustice of someone making minimum wage. I think it's a good illustration as to why we shouldn't have ever established a minimum wage to start with. There's no end with you people, you will continue on and on... no matter how high we raise the minimum wage... it's NEVER going to be enough!

I think what we should do is just ABOLISH it! That's right! Do away with it altogether! It's obviously not doing what it was supposed to do, you're obviously not content with leaving it alone, it's never going to be raised high enough for Liberals... so let's just go back to what we did before we had it?

Yes, even less money chasing more goods. That's exactly what the United States economy needs. Those corporations can just buy their own goods, it's not like they need customers after all.
 
Yes, even less money chasing more goods. That's exactly what the United States economy needs. Those corporations can just buy their own goods, it's not like they need customers after all.

I don't think that was Dixie's point.
 
If you split the US into a bunch of Denmark sized chunks, would those chunks suddenly be more capable of supporting a welfare system? Would anything change at all, in a realistic sense? What if we didn't even split into different nations, we just administered the welfare state in chunks? Obviously, however, such an arbitrary system would simply increase costs, if anything, compared to allowing the administration to freely decide which routes are most efficient for the delivery of the welfare. That's why, if you'll notice, corporations don't don't split into Denmark sized chunks when, according to your idiotic theory, that would be the most efficient way of delivering the goods.
 
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