Rand Paul report on inflation, it's going to get worse!

McRocket said:
Fantasize away.

The fact is that I do not take almost anything you say seriously because you are a troll.

But if you want to take that I 'surrender' on things that you typed that I never read?
:rolleyes:

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

You done wasting my time yet?
Just curious.
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You never read them, but you quoted them.

ROTFLFMAO!!!! Okay Rocket Man. Whatever you say. You are an intellectual lightweight. That's why you aren't interested in a discussion. The troll here is you, dude.
 
McRocket said:
Powell did NOT say the words you claim he did.
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No, Powell didn't say the words YOU CLAIM HE DID.

McRocket said:
Wrong, actually. The Fed says that the current inflation is no longer 'transitory'.
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What Powell actually said:

“Generally, the higher prices we’re seeing are related to the supply and demand imbalances that can be traced directly back to the pandemic and the reopening of the economy,”

So that's that.

You were wrong, you didn't read your source, your beliefs are shit, your principles are non-existent, your moral compass is broken beyond repair, your ethics are trash, and your judgment sucks.
 
Concart said:
So… we should have sacrificed growth then? You can’t have it both ways. The reality is that the economy is incredibly strong. Rapid growth, rising wages and low unemployment. The alternative would have been to NOT put Americans back to work. Would that be better?
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What is 100% clear is McRocket has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Stimulus didn't cause inflation, the pandemic did because of the havoc it wreaked on supply chains and shipping containers.

McRocket is a partisan hack who wants to blame all his poor decisions and instincts on Joe Biden.
 
Concart said:
You never read them, but you quoted them.

ROTFLFMAO!!!! Okay Rocket Man. Whatever you say. You are an intellectual lightweight. That's why you aren't interested in a discussion. The troll here is you, dude.
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I guess the answer is 'no'.

Yes.
It's called the 'Reply With Quote' button.

You are not aware of it?

ANyway.

I try not to waste time on trolls.

You are clearly a troll.

Sooo...we are done here...for now.

Have a nice day, troll.
 
McRocket said:
Where EXACTLY did I type that 'the cause of inflation was in fact those supply-side issues'.
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You didn't type that because that is the correct thing to say, according to the link you provided, and you weren't correct.

What you said was that supply-side issues WEREN'T the root cause (weren't transitory), and then you posted that Post link as some sort of proof, when it says the exact opposite.
 
McRocket said:
Really?
You KNOW this?

How can you know something if a) you cannot prove it.

And b) I have never posted on this site before last December (to my knowledge)?
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This isn't my first rodeo and you're not half as clever as you think you are.
 
LV426 said:
Powell said in his testimony that the biggest problem isn't inflation, but rather the Omicron variant which will cast uncertainty on inflation:

“The recent rise in COVID-19 cases and the emergence of the Omicron variant pose downside risks to employment and economic activity and increased uncertainty for inflation...Greater concerns about the virus could reduce people’s willingness to work in person, which would slow progress in the labor market and intensify supply-chain disruptions.””
https://nypost.com/2021/11/30/jerome-powell-warns-omicron-variant-could-dent-economic-recovery/
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By the way, I see you try and breakdown discussions into tiny little snippets. You refuse to quote entire posts...and only quote part of them.
That makes the other person have to search around for what he/she originally said to adequately continue their line-of-questioning.
Be that as it may...I will have to - regrettably - change the way I post to you.
I will have to include ALL of my questions/replies to you in each reply to your partial-quotations on my posts.
Regrettable...but your (imo) juvenile way of posting demands this response.
Plus, I am bored right now.


1) So you are actually saying that if someone says 'I don't care if you believe me'?

That automatically means they must be lying?

Yes or no, please?


2) https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904709#post4904709

From above - 'That is NOT 'precisely' (word-for-word) what I typed.

Once again...where did Powell say 'precisely' what I did.
Precisely means 'exactly'.

So...can you post a link to prove that Powell said 'PRECISELY/word-for-word' what I typed'?
Yes or no, please?


3) you said:
'Nice to know you will never hold yourself to any standard on JPP or elsewhere.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904838#post4904838

(i) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof of this?
(ii)Or did you just make it up?

(i) or (ii)?


4) Really?
You KNOW this?
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904891#post4904891

Can you post a link that proves that I have posted on this site before December of 2021?

Yes or no, please?


5) Your post - 'What is 100% clear is McRocket has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Stimulus didn't cause inflation, the pandemic did because of the havoc it wreaked on supply chains and shipping containers.

McRocket is a partisan hack who wants to blame all his poor decisions and instincts on Joe Biden'.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904909#post4904909

a) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I have 'no fucking clue what I am talking about'?
b) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that 'stimulus did not cause inflation'?
c) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I am a 'partisan hack...blame Joe Biden'?


6) 'No, Powell didn't say the words YOU CLAIM HE DID.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904907#post4904907

And where EXACTLY did I claim that Powell said an EXACT statement that I attributed to him...that he did - in fact - not say?


7) ' This isn't my first rodeo and you're not half as clever as you think you are.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904919#post4904919

And where is the post I made that stated how clever I think I am?


8) 'You said at the start that supply-side issues weren't the cause of inflation,'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904877#post4904877

Where EXACTLY did I type that 'supply-side issues were not the cause of inflation?

I said they are not - at present - the principle cause.
I said nowhere that there nothing to do with inflation.

So...where did I type what you are accusing me of typing?
 
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McRocket said:
I guess the answer is 'no'.

Yes.
It's called the 'Reply With Quote' button.

You are not aware of it?

ANyway.

I try not to waste time on trolls.

You are clearly a troll.

Sooo...we are done here...for now.

Have a nice day, troll.
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You didn't 'reply with quote'. You typed out something I said and asked a question about it. You don't even lie well.
 
McRocket said:
By the way, I see you try and breakdown discussions into tiny little snippets. You refuse to quote entire posts...and only quote part of them.
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No, I do things this way so that you can't avoid accountability for fucking up your own argument.

You said this:

McRocket said:
The Fed says that the current inflation is no longer 'transitory'.
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But what Powell actually said was this:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.

Then you tried to make the argument about something else.
 
LV426 said:
No, I do things this way so that you can't avoid accountability for fucking up your own argument.

You said this:



But what Powell actually said was this:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.

Then you tried to make the argument about something else.
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Uh uh pal.
No more strawman bullshit to my questions.

You gotta start answering MY questions now.
Or are you too much of a coward?



1) https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-s-going-to-get-worse!&p=4904779#post4904779
So you are actually saying that if someone says 'I don't care if you believe me'?

That automatically means they must be lying?

Yes or no, please?


2) https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...09#post4904709

From above - 'That is NOT 'precisely' (word-for-word) what I typed.

Once again...where did Powell say 'precisely' what I did.
Precisely means 'exactly'.

So...can you post a link to prove that Powell said 'PRECISELY/word-for-word' what I typed'?
Yes or no, please?


3) you said:
'Nice to know you will never hold yourself to any standard on JPP or elsewhere.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...38#post4904838

(i) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof of this?
(ii)Or did you just make it up?

(i) or (ii)?


4) Really?
You KNOW this?
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...91#post4904891

Can you post a link that proves that I have posted on this site before December of 2021?

Yes or no, please?


5) Your post - 'What is 100% clear is McRocket has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Stimulus didn't cause inflation, the pandemic did because of the havoc it wreaked on supply chains and shipping containers.

McRocket is a partisan hack who wants to blame all his poor decisions and instincts on Joe Biden'.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...09#post4904909

a) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I have 'no fucking clue what I am talking about'?
b) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that 'stimulus did not cause inflation'?
c) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I am a 'partisan hack...blame Joe Biden'?


6) 'No, Powell didn't say the words YOU CLAIM HE DID.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...07#post4904907

And where EXACTLY did I claim that Powell said an EXACT statement that I attributed to him...that he did - in fact - not say?


7) ' This isn't my first rodeo and you're not half as clever as you think you are.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...19#post4904919

And where is the post I made that stated how clever I think I am?


8) 'You said at the start that supply-side issues weren't the cause of inflation,'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...77#post4904877

Where EXACTLY did I type that 'supply-side issues were not the cause of inflation?

I said they are not - at present - the principle cause.
I said nowhere that there nothing to do with inflation.

So...where did I type what you are accusing me of typing?
 
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McRocket said:
Uh uh pal.
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You are doing exactly what I said you would do; avoid accountability for fucking up your own argument.

You said this, which was completely wrong:

McRocket said:
The Fed says that the current inflation is no longer 'transitory'
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When you were confronted with the below quote showing you to be wrong, you decided to make the argument about something else:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.”

So you said it wasn't "transitory", but Powell says it is.

So you misread your source, which upended your argument.
 
LV426 said:
You are doing exactly what I said you would do; avoid accountability for fucking up your own argument.

You said this, which was completely wrong:



When you were confronted with the below quote showing you to be wrong, you decided to make the argument about something else:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.”

So you said it wasn't "transitory", but Powell says it was.

So you misread your source, which upended your argument.
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Uh uh pal.
No more strawman bullshit to my questions.

You gotta start answering MY questions now.
Or are you too much of a coward?



1) https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...79#post4904779
So you are actually saying that if someone says 'I don't care if you believe me'?

That automatically means they must be lying?

Yes or no, please?


2) https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...09#post4904709

From above - 'That is NOT 'precisely' (word-for-word) what I typed.

Once again...where did Powell say 'precisely' what I did.
Precisely means 'exactly'.

So...can you post a link to prove that Powell said 'PRECISELY/word-for-word' what I typed'?
Yes or no, please?


3) you said:
'Nice to know you will never hold yourself to any standard on JPP or elsewhere.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...38#post4904838

(i) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof of this?
(ii)Or did you just make it up?

(i) or (ii)?


4) Really?
You KNOW this?
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...91#post4904891

Can you post a link that proves that I have posted on this site before December of 2021?

Yes or no, please?


5) Your post - 'What is 100% clear is McRocket has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Stimulus didn't cause inflation, the pandemic did because of the havoc it wreaked on supply chains and shipping containers.

McRocket is a partisan hack who wants to blame all his poor decisions and instincts on Joe Biden'.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...09#post4904909

a) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I have 'no fucking clue what I am talking about'?
b) Where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that 'stimulus did not cause inflation'?
c) where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that I am a 'partisan hack...blame Joe Biden'?


6) 'No, Powell didn't say the words YOU CLAIM HE DID.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...07#post4904907

And where EXACTLY did I claim that Powell said an EXACT statement that I attributed to him...that he did - in fact - not say?


7) ' This isn't my first rodeo and you're not half as clever as you think you are.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...19#post4904919

And where is the post I made that stated how clever I think I am?


8) 'You said at the start that supply-side issues weren't the cause of inflation,'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...77#post4904877

Where EXACTLY did I type that 'supply-side issues were not the cause of inflation?

I said they are not - at present - the principle cause.
I said nowhere that there nothing to do with inflation.

So...where did I type what you are accusing me of typing?


WATCH FOLKS?
HE WILL PROBABLY AVOID ANSWERING THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS AGAIN.
 
McRocket said:
HE WILL PROBABLY AVOID ANSWERING THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS AGAIN.[/SIZE][/B]
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Le sigh...you're having a tantrum because your original argument was shit:

McRocket said:
The Fed says that the current inflation is no longer 'transitory'.
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But Powell said this:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.
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So when you arrogantly said "The Fed says the current inflation is no longer transitory" THAT WAS YOU MISREADING THE ARTICLE.

Everything that has come since has been you avoiding holding yourself to any standard of decency or accountability.
 
LV426 said:
Le sigh...you're having a tantrum because your original argument was shit:



But Powell said this:



So when you arrogantly said "The Fed says the current inflation is no longer transitory" THAT WAS YOU MISREADING THE ARTICLE.

Everything that has come since has been you avoiding holding yourself to any standard of decency or accountability.
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Did you just modify every post that I quoted you on in Post #95 in this thread?

Yes or no, please?

:laugh:
 
McRocket said:
The Federal government is still running HUGE, monthly deficits.
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts.pdf

So the government is still 'stimulating' the economy. Whether it calls it that or now.

I am not saying I agree with Rand Paul's assertions completely.
But I do agree with the basics of it.

And saying that the government macroeconomic stimuli is over is not correct.
And that is not even mentioning the Federal Reserve.
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The US government has run deficits almost every month for the last 80 years. Why was there no inflation tied to those deficits in the past? To argue that the current deficit spending is causing the inflation would be to ignore the history of how inflation has never been the result of government deficit spending in the past. The deficits for the last 3 months of '21 were hardly out of line with previous deficits prior to Covid. Keep in mind your numbers are not inflation adjusted or a percent of GDP. The macroeconomic effect of current spending is lower than it has been often in the past. I can find multiple 3 month periods in the past where the macroeconomic effect from deficit spending was higher than it currently is and we had low inflation numbers. Government spending at its current level doesn't have the effect you think it does.
 
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McRocket said:
Now LV246 just modified every, single post I quoted of his in my above post of questions for him.
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I didn't modify anything, YOU DID.

You modified your argument because, in your own words, you "weren't clear".

I quoted you accurately here:

McRocket said:
The Fed says that the current inflation is no longer 'transitory'.
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Are you going to now argue you never typed this?

If so, did someone hack your account?

Nevermind the fact that the Fed never said inflation is no longer transitory, and in fact, Powell said the opposite:

“I think what we missed about inflation,” Powell responded, “was we didn’t predict the supply-side problems, and those are highly unusual and very difficult, very non-linear, and it’s really hard to predict those things, but that’s really what we missed, and that’s why all of the professional forecasters had much lower inflation projections.

And even your NY Post article editorialized that Powell blamed supply chain issues: Despite his attempt to blame high prices on supply chain backlogs.
 
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