Actually you have to find a gas price you want to pay as you drive. Did you count the time to drive there? How about the time to pay?
That was pull up to the pump, tap the card, fill the vehicle, squeegee the windows, and drive off. Charging an EV takes hours. As for your choices, fine by me, I don't care what you drive. What I don't want is YOU telling ME what I MUST drive. That's where the EV market is today. They are being forced on consumers by government.
Why?
Takes less than 5 seconds to pay at the pump
How many seconds?
I don't pay attention either.
My condolences to your son. Ask him how it works on a cross country trip.
So you suddenly appeared at a gas station. You had to be aware of needing gas and had to pick a station and drive there. That is part of your fueling time.
Yep, I left my driveway, saw I needed gas, started heading to where I was going, pulled into the QT on the corner of the next major cross street, and spent four minutes filling my vehicle. I then exited the station and continued on my way to my destination.
I park in my garage. Plug the charger in and use 10 seconds. No weather to worry about. No using gasoline stinky pump. No smell on hands. No stinking up gloves. Ans much, much less time required. You lose that argument too.
Apples to crowbars. Your argument isn't a counter example.
It shows that I spend almost no time filling my car while yours takes much much more. I directly addressed the point you were not making, although you tried. You are a righty. Logic and fact elude you.
No, you spend your time doing other things while your car fills. Not the same thing.
That is not a real scenario. I have never had to find a place to charge. I charge in my garage, every time. You drive to a gas station and fill up a couple of times a week. The examples are perfect.
EVs get about 300 mi range. Of course, you would create such a scenario. When Chevy made the Volt in 2013, they found a 50-mile range was good for 80 percent of car owners. 300 accommodates a far higher percentage. And the range keeps getting higher and charge time keeps dropping.
None of that changes the underlying premise and argument I've made, and you can't refute:
There will be ICEs available for your whole life. They will not be brand new. Why do rightys talk so much about "shoving things down their throats" It seems that are fixated on that sexual imagery?
Production of new ICE vehicles should continue indefinitely based on market demand. EV's, likewise, should be produced based on market demand. Now, history shows that EV's might draw 5% of the market, give or take, and that's been true since about 1900. Governments in Europe are finding that their citizens feel the same way and don't want EV's forced on them either.
Actually you have to find an electricity price you want to pay as you drive. Did you count the time to drive there? How about the time to pay?
Battery chemistry hasn't changed. So called "fast charging" (which is still MUCH slower than filling up a gas tank with gas) shortens battery life.
Battery chemistry hasn't changed.
Plugging a cord into a car's port is what takes seconds. That is NOT "charging" any more than inserting a fuel nozzle into a car's fuel tank is "fueling".
So which is it?? Does it "take seconds to charge" or does it "take forever to charge while you're at home waiting hours for it to finally charge up again"?
Okay.
Yes. There are all sorts of gas stations right along my work commute; there's over a handful of them to choose from! These are all stations that are right along my commute route, so it takes a very negligible amount of time to "appear at a gas station".
You had to be aware of needing electricity.
You likewise had to pick a station and drive there.
No it isn't.
Poor Nordy.
I don't worry about waiting hours for my vehicle to refuel. I can take long trips much quicker. I can tow things. My maintenance & repair costs are lower. My insurance rates are lower. My vehicle purchase price is lower. I win.
