Reality vs. trump supporters

So the libtards on this thread say Trump is a Russian asset or puppet or agent. Basically trump is Putins bitch. They never complained about Obama's russian policy.

Now we know that Obama refused to give Javeline missiles to Ukraine because he was afraid of pissing off russia. He gave mre's and blanket instead.

Fast forward to today and the same Javeline missiles that are now being called life or death important in the impeachment hearings were denied by obama.....point #1

Seems they aren't capable of understanding that this attack on trump, denying desperately needed support, shows them to be hypocrites and political hacks.

Trump on the other hand, Putin's supposed bitch and puppet, approved the missile not giving a shit if Putin gets pissed. He also killed a couple dozen russian troops. So much for that stupid liberal bullshit false narrative. Seems the FACTS suggest it was Obama " tell putin I'll have more flexibility AFTER my election" that was putins little do boy.

Sorry libs for making you all look ignorant, not my fault you guys can't think critically.
 
Daddyo said:
Clinton was impeached for a felony and convicted. He lost his law license. The republicans had dual motive for his impeachment and it cost them dearly politically.

Your socialist comrades will suffer massive political damage in 2020 for this. The polls are already showing it.
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Your usual fake facts. Clinton was impeached and acquitted. His law license was suspended for 5 years. His impeachment was purely political. What the polls are showing is that a majority think that Trump should be impeached and that he is guilty.
It's also clear that you have no idea what socialism is, beyond an insult for you to toss around.

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Daddyo said:
Spoken like a true liberal with TDS and who only believes what information hurts who he hates.

I bet the Durham report proves that Comey lied to the FISA court to obtain the warrant to spy on then candidate trump. I bet it shows a coordinated deep state effort to prevent him from becoming president and then damaging or removing him after his win.

Today we find out who's right.
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Spoken like a true Trump cultist, deep in his TDS and totally unable to accept the truth about Trump and who only believes whatever information that hurts who he hates.

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Daddyo said:
Hard not to get ODS lol. Why did obama say to medvedev tell Putin I'll have more flexibility after my election? Bet you wont answer lol.

The real russian collusion of course.

Or hillary and the russian dossier. Or uranium gate.

Or schiff accepting what he thought were naked photos of trump gross! Sounds like foreign help against a political rival.

Your dems are waste deep in caviar and vodka and have the balls to fake what they are guilty of.
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Deep in delusion. There was nothing illicit about "hillary [sic] and the russian [sic] dossier". "uranium gate" is just more right-wing propaganda. And Schiff didn't accept anything. He thought that he was being offered evidence in an ongoing investigation. It was a prank. As usual, you are making it something that it wasn't.

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Sometimes in life there are things you just cant explain until you get some other information and then bam it becomes obvious. Hillary's foundation getting 145 million in donations from 9 people involved in the uranium deal is one of those. You of course will afford her the benefit of the doubt something you would never do for trump lol.

I know about Bill's impeachment. Seems the only way to get you guys to admit anything is to induce a defensive post. Now we can say clinton committed a crime. Trump didn't.

Same for Schiff. He agreed to accept what he thought was dirt on a political rival. You said it was for evidence in an ongoing investigation. Trump did the same thing. Biden admitted to the quid pro quo and trump was investigating that crime and more. Yet for trump you assumed the political benefits and for Schiff you don't. And they are huge and obvious.

Proof that YOU sir are all eat up with Trump Derangement Syndrome lol. Even though he is the greatest president in my lifetime.
 
"One omission is particularly troubling: the dossier’s funding. We know that Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee*helped fund the research that resulted in the Steele dossier."

Nothing illicit? Paying foreigners to produce a fake report on your opponent to effect the election and to open the door to government spying on said candidate and you are gonna defend that lol. Very hypocritical and frankly sad.
 
Goodbye Daddyo,

Daddyo said:
Spoken like a true liberal with TDS and who only believes what information hurts who he hates.
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There you go. Crossed the line. Talking about me. And spewing sadly made-up false BS. Sounds like very hateful propaganda inserted into your brain by Rush Limbaugh.

The BS is necessary for you to reject reality. You have to have your boogie-man, your scape-goat, somebody to hate in order to make your politics work. In this case it is liberals. You've fallen into a hopeless and foolish stereotype. There is nothing wrong with liberals. Liberals are people, just like conservatives. Some are good, some are bad. It is stupid to find examples of a bad one and then project that on all the others. That is your mistake, and it has cost you your objectivity. No matter what a liberal says you assume it is wrong, and you set about finding a way to support that.

Sadly prejudiced. I'll not have it. People like that are boring to me, not worth wasting my time talking to. All too predictable. I wish we could have a level conversation, but you make that impossible.

I have warned you there must be mutual respect for us to have a civil conversation. It is obvious you have no respect for liberals, so you cannot respect me. Your thinking is messed up. The only way you can believe what you do is to make us out to be some sort of lessor citizens. The hatred is obviously yours, and you cannot help yourself but express it. I have expressed nothing but respect for you and debated only the issues, said nothing about you as a person until now, and now only for the purpose of explaining why this is the last post I will ever make to you.

There is no point in talking to you. You are of a closed mind. You have said enough for me to know all I need to know about you to place you on permanent Ignore.

I hope you have a good life, find your heart and learn how to be objective about others. We could have had years of great debate but you blew it.
 
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Daddyo said:
"One omission is particularly troubling: the dossier’s funding. We know that Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee*helped fund the research that resulted in the Steele dossier."

Nothing illicit? Paying foreigners to produce a fake report on your opponent to effect the election and to open the door to government spying on said candidate and you are gonna defend that lol. Very hypocritical and frankly sad.
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The “dossier” is a series of memos compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele on supposed contacts between Russian officials and members of the Trump campaign. It alleged the Russian government had compromising information on then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. Steele was hired by the research firm Fusion GPS, which had been hired by a law firm representing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/


The dossier is a series of memos by retired British spy Christopher Steele. Some of his claims have been debunked, others have held up over time; some remain unproven, and other parts are partially true. (The Mueller report does not support the main claim in the dossier, that the Trump campaign engaged in a widespread conspiracy of collusion with the Russians.)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/trump-russia-dossier-carter-page-fisa/index.html

Keep laughing, chuckles.....the GOP got it's ass handed to them at yesterdays Senate hearings. The noose is tightening, baby.
 
Taichiliberal said:
The “dossier” is a series of memos compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele on supposed contacts between Russian officials and members of the Trump campaign. It alleged the Russian government had compromising information on then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. Steele was hired by the research firm Fusion GPS, which had been hired by a law firm representing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/
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Steele also has a shitty friend, Ivanka Trump, who approached Steele to do research for the family business. She didn’t even come to his defense. What a shitty friend.
 
ZILCHMONGER said:
You sir/madam/whatever are a flaming asshole of the first order.

You wish to control the rest of us. I don't give a flying fuck what you believe as long as you don't make me pay for it. You, on the other hand demand I swallow your poison and like Winston Smith tell the world I love Big Brother as he shoots me in the head.

What a complete and utter fool you are.
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OMG! Zilchy just had a melt down....faced with facts he can't logically or factually disprove, Zilchy vomits forth every right wing disproved talking point and mantra of the last 30 years. Zilchy doesn't dare discuss specifics of the content of my links....he doesn't have the intellectual courage or capacity. I leave him to sputter and fume in his insipidly stubborn and willful ignorance.
 
Daddyo said:
Just doing their jobs lol. Has biden been investigated? Is there proof that deep state actors from Obama's admin conspired to spy of a presidential candidate? Did these same actors frame the president once elected? They have been after trump since before his election and have not relented. They are NOT doing their job they are using this power to both damage trump politically and to sway the 2020 election in their favor.
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Investigated for what? Being VP to Trump? Having a son get a job (then quit) in another country (nepotism NEVER proven)? Enforcing an edict on a corrupt country with the blessing of our NATO allies? And the rest of your bilge was disproved LONG ago. But Trump chumps will parrot the mantras in hopes that it will magically come true, because they can't face the reality of the corruptness of the Orange Oaf who wipes his feet on them.
 
Truth Detector said:
It was the Party of the Jackass and the PHONY media who made the collusion bullshit up.



Mueller never said anything of the sort. I have the report and his testimony.

Representative Doug Collins to Mueller: "at anytime during the investigation was your investigation curtailed, or stopped, or hindered?"

Muller: "no".

Video of this part 38 seconds in
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PROVE IT WAS THE DEM PARTY THAT ORIGINATED THE "COLLUSION" stuff.

Also, this happened:

"Efforts to curtail the Special Counsel's investigation"
"Efforts to prevent public disclosure of evidence"
"Further efforts to have the Attorney General take control of the investigation"
"The appointment of Special Counsel and efforts to remove him"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obstru...p-may-have-obstructed-justice-mueller-report/
 
Daddyo said:
Then you guys and your demoncrat politician friends have the nerve to complain about election meddling lol. You just cant make this crazy stuff up.
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You seem to have no problem substituting fantasy for fact...just like your boys at the hearings.

The noose is tightening, baby.
 
Daddyo said:
So the libtards on this thread say Trump is a Russian asset or puppet or agent. Basically trump is Putins bitch. They never complained about Obama's russian policy.

Now we know that Obama refused to give Javeline missiles to Ukraine because he was afraid of pissing off russia. He gave mre's and blanket instead.

Fast forward to today and the same Javeline missiles that are now being called life or death important in the impeachment hearings were denied by obama.....point #1

Seems they aren't capable of understanding that this attack on trump, denying desperately needed support, shows them to be hypocrites and political hacks.

Trump on the other hand, Putin's supposed bitch and puppet, approved the missile not giving a shit if Putin gets pissed. He also killed a couple dozen russian troops. So much for that stupid liberal bullshit false narrative. Seems the FACTS suggest it was Obama " tell putin I'll have more flexibility AFTER my election" that was putins little do boy.

Sorry libs for making you all look ignorant, not my fault you guys can't think critically.
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Newsflash; the very corrupt Ukrainian gov't that the GOP claims the Orange Oaf is/was so concerned about was in full swing during the Obama years....which is why he wasn't handing weapons over to them willy-nilly...ESPECIALLY post near civil war. Biden, the VP, went over and put the screws to the corruption...with NATO and UN blessing....by Obama's approval.....and guess what? By the time the Orange Oaf comes along, the Ukraine has a new President who ran on anti-corruption, and the bad guys are on the ousts.

Once again, ALL the facts "trump" your revisionist bullshit.
 
Daddyo said:
Sometimes in life there are things you just cant explain until you get some other information and then bam it becomes obvious. Hillary's foundation getting 145 million in donations from 9 people involved in the uranium deal is one of those. You of course will afford her the benefit of the doubt something you would never do for trump lol.

I know about Bill's impeachment. Seems the only way to get you guys to admit anything is to induce a defensive post. Now we can say clinton committed a crime. Trump didn't.

Same for Schiff. He agreed to accept what he thought was dirt on a political rival. You said it was for evidence in an ongoing investigation. Trump did the same thing. Biden admitted to the quid pro quo and trump was investigating that crime and more. Yet for trump you assumed the political benefits and for Schiff you don't. And they are huge and obvious.

Proof that YOU sir are all eat up with Trump Derangement Syndrome lol. Even though he is the greatest president in my lifetime.
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regurgitating all this crap won't erase the FACTS regarding the Orange Oaf. You can't logically or factually fault the OP. Scurry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Coincidence? Yeah, right! :rolleyes:
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If you think you can impeach a President based with the thinnest evidentiary record, and the narrowest grounds ever used to impeach a president, you're a fool.

Turner: "So NO ONE ON THIS PLANET, TOLD YOU THAT THE AID WAS TIED TO THESE INVESTIGATIONS...YES or NO??"

Sondland: "YES."

Turner: "BUT YOU CLAIMED IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT YOU KNEW IT WAS."

Sondland: "THAT WAS MY PRESUMPTION....."

Turner: WHICH IS NOTHING!!!!


MR. RATCLIFFE : Okay. It sounds like, from your statement today, that you were aware of the hold and troubled by it but that President Zelensky was not aware of it at that point in time.

AMBASSADOR TAYLOR: That is correct.

MR . RATCLIFFE: Okay. So , based on your knowledge, nobody in the Ukrainian Government became aware of a hold on military aid until 2 days later, on August 29th.

AMBASSADOR TAYLOR: That's my understanding.
 
Taichiliberal said:
PROVE IT WAS THE DEM PARTY THAT ORIGINATED THE "COLLUSION" stuff.
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Prove you're not an uneducated fool. :rolleyes:

Taichiliberal said:
Also, this happened:

"Efforts to curtail the Special Counsel's investigation"
"Efforts to prevent public disclosure of evidence"
"Further efforts to have the Attorney General take control of the investigation"
"The appointment of Special Counsel and efforts to remove him"
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Representative Doug Collins to Mueller: "at anytime during the investigation was your investigation curtailed, or stopped, or hindered?"

Muller: "no". Case closed

Video of this part 38 seconds in
 
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