Regime Change - MAGA's Love It

[Jarod]

AND?

Only a simpleton would argue that everything is so binary, if you’re opposed to using our military, for what Trump did in Venezuela, you must support that dictator.

One thing has nothing whatsoever to do with the other. It reminds me of when Bush, Jr. said about Iraq, if you ain’t with us, you’re against us. Your type falls for that kind of argument every single time.

I know it’s fashionable not to have a agreed with Bush anymore, but you’re making the same stupid arguments he made to drum up support for his Iraq extravaganza.

Can you at least not make a coherent argument for your position or is your position simply emotional?

 

[Damocles]

I think means are far too often used as simplistic arguments, and they trick simple minded people into supporting people like Donald Trump.

example?

three different threads, one is about Regime change, the next complains because it isn't Regime change, and this one... none have a position, all have simply opposition. it is the only thing the left does lately.

 

[Jarod]

three different threads, one is about Regime change, the next complains because it isn't Regime change, and this one... none have a position, all have simply opposition. it is the only thing the left does lately.

Where did you get the idea that I am complaining that it’s not regime change?

I’m very happy it’s not regime change, nowhere have I complain about it not being regime change.

Yesterday, when Trump claimed it was regime change, I was opposed to it, today when he backs down, I’m happy about it, but I am very happy to use it as an illustration of the hypocrisy of the Trumper, who post here.


If you read what I wrote, you would know that what I said was the flip-flop exposed our Trumper’s for what they are.

Maybe I need to make it much more simple.

1) I oppose regime change. (20 years ago AND now)
2) the PP administration backed off regime change today.
3) Yesterday the Trumper’s were claiming that if you opposed regime change in Venezuela you were supporting authoritarianism.

 

[Damocles]

Where did you get the idea? I am complaining that it’s not regime change?

I’m very happy it’s not regime change, nowhere have I complain about it not being regime change.

Yesterday, when Trump claimed it was reaching change, I was opposed to it, today when he backs down, I’m happy about it, but I am very happy to use it as an illustration of the hypocrisy of the Trumper, who post here.


If you read what I wrote, you would know that what I said was the flip-flop exposed our Trumper’s for what they are.

I should also mention the one about "how will we control Venezuela"...

Not one of these threads are a position. All of them are simply opposing trump. there is no central message, just "trump is bad mmm'kay".

 

[QP!]

I always said it was all bullshit when MAGA morons claimed they wanted to get out of the business of nation building and foreign military entanglement

... and cared about groomers and pedophiles.

... And cared about supporting the blue and law order

... and were the party of family values

... and cared about free speech

As Trump has betrayed each and every one of those election planks the Magats just clap like seals proving they don't hold a single true value.

 

[Jarod]

I should also mention the one about "how will we control Venezuela"...

Not one of these threads are a position. All of them are simply opposing trump. there is no central message, just "trump is bad mmm'kay".

I was pointing out the ridiculousness of Trump’s statement about controlling Venezuela.

I guess if it has to be about a position, my position is against idiotic presidents, who cannot even understand their own stance on the Venezuela situation.

 

[QP!]

Would you rather have a usurper dictator or democratically elected president running Venezuela?

You aren't getting a democratically elected one with Trump. He rejects the winner of their last election getting in and supports the same current regime, for now.

 

[Jarod]

three different threads, one is about Regime change, the next complains because it isn't Regime change, and this one... none have a position, all have simply opposition. it is the only thing the left does lately.

Who complained that’s it’s not regime change?

 

[Damocles]

I was pointing out the ridiculousness of Trump’s statement about controlling Venezuela.

I guess if it has to be about a position, my position is against idiotic presidents, who cannot even understand their own stance on the Venezuela situation.

Yeah. You are opposing Trump. Your position is "Trump is bad"... Thank you for underlining and then repeating what I stated in your own words.

 

[Jarod]

Would you rather have a usurper dictator or democratically elected president running Venezuela?

Clearly, almost everyone would rather have a Democrat elected president running Venezuela.

Trump was not elected president of Venezuela, but yesterday you supported him running it.

I’m opposed to the United States becoming the world’s policeman.

 

[Hawkeye10]

... and cared about groomers and pedophiles.

... And cared about supporting the blue and law order

... and were the party of family values

... and cared about free speech

As Trump has betrayed each and every one of those election planks the Magats just clap like seals proving they don't hold a single true value.

Re clapping like seals:








David Miller

@Tracking_Power


As I have said several times before, the 'America First' right is a chauvinistic imperialist force attempting to rescue the vestiges of American Empire, while its supposed adversaries in the Israel First movement seek to supplant American Empire with Pax Judaica.Pax Judaica has already won. It's just that the America Firsters are too dim to realise they have already been integrated into the Israel First movement, to seal-clap for regime change missions they think are being executed for their interests.Paul Singer doesn't care about your Monroe Doctrine or your chest-thumping about the 160th whatever division of goy meatheads. He wants his money and you will be a good Yankee goy and work for him by pushing his and Netanyahu's mission in Caracas. His 'Start Up Empire' got going on your dime.A lot of groypers licking Zionist boot right now, whether or not they know it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007753246421426283

View: https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/2007753246421426283

 

[Jarod]

Yeah. You are opposing Trump. Your position is "Trump is bad"... Thank you for underlining and then repeating what I stated in your own words.

My position is that Trump is bad, for many reasons.

Where did I complain that it’s not regime change?

Just to catch you up…

I opposed Trump when he said we would be controlling Venezuela.

I pointed out Trump’s stupidity once his administration back down.

Finally, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the Trumper’s here.

I stand behind my positions. If Trump had done something good, I might’ve posted about it.

So far, Trump has done one thing I agree with, prison reform. I’ve said that several times, he is not automatically bad.

 

[FastLane]

Clearly, almost everyone would rather have a Democrat elected president running Venezuela.

Trump was not elected president of Venezuela, but yesterday you supported him running it.

I’m opposed to the United States becoming the world’s policeman.

I support him protecting the Venezuelan presidency long enough so the people of Venezuela can elect a president. Then we should butt out.

 

[FastLane]

My position is that Trump is bad, for many reasons.

Where did I complain that it’s not regime change?

Just to catch you up…

I opposed Trump when he said we would be controlling Venezuela.

I pointed out Trump’s stupidity once his administration back down.

Finally, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the Trumper’s here.

I stand behind my positions. If Trump had done something good, I might’ve posted about it.

So far, Trump has done one thing I agree with, prison reform. I’ve said that several times, he is not automatically bad.

So do you want the US to leave Venezuela in Chaos and just hope another thug doesn't take power?

 

[QP!]

I should also mention the one about "how will we control Venezuela"...

Not one of these threads are a position. All of them are simply opposing trump. there is no central message, just "trump is bad mmm'kay".

You do not make any sense in your need to defend Trump and pretend these threads are not justified.

Trump ran on an implicit America First, we are out of foreign entanglements and regime change business.

Not only is it correct for us to point that election promise (and all others out), it would be stupid not to.

If a politician, ANY politician says I'm against X and then does X, only a simpleton thinks there is something wrong in pointing that out.

 

[FastLane]

Clearly, almost everyone would rather have a Democrat elected president running Venezuela.

Trump was not elected president of Venezuela, but yesterday you supported him running it.

I’m opposed to the United States becoming the world’s policeman.

Who else would stop Venezuela from smuggling drugs into America.

 

[QP!]

My position is that Trump is bad, for many reasons.

Where did I complain that it’s not regime change?

Just to catch you up…

I opposed Trump when he said we would be controlling Venezuela.

I pointed out Trump’s stupidity once his administration back down.

Finally, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the Trumper’s here.

I stand behind my positions. If Trump had done something good, I might’ve posted about it.

So far, Trump has done one thing I agree with, prison reform. I’ve said that several times, he is not automatically bad.

@Damocles has TDS. Seriously.

Trump breaks almost all his campaign positions and Damo is trying to create a way to say 'pointing out Trump broke a pledge is wrong'.

He probably does not even know what he is trying to establish as he just does not want to see any more 'Trump is now doing X... despite saying he wouldn't' threads, as there are more of these to come.

And rightly.

 

[Lionfish]

Only a simpleton would argue that everything is so binary, if you’re opposed to using our military, for what Trump did in Venezuela, you must support that dictator.

One thing has nothing whatsoever to do with the other. It reminds me of when Bush, Jr. said about Iraq, if you ain’t with us, you’re against us. Your type falls for that kind of argument every single time.

I know it’s fashionable not to have a agreed with Bush anymore, but you’re making the same stupid arguments he made to drum up support for his Iraq extravaganza.

Can you at least not make a coherent argument for your position or is your position simply emotional?

What is my position?

 

[Jarod]

@Damocles has TDS. Seriously.

Trump breaks almost all his campaign positions and Damo is trying to create a way to say 'pointing out Trump broke a pledge is wrong'.

He probably does not even know what he is trying to establish as he just does not want to see any more 'Trump is now doing X... despite saying he wouldn't' threads, as there are more of these to come.

And rightly.

He knows Trump is a terrible president, he does gymnastics to have something to day, because Damo no longer had a political home. His position is that Democrats are bad.

 

[Hawkeye10]

So do you want the US to leave Venezuela in Chaos and just hope another thug doesn't take power?

The people were not being hurt by Maduro.....they were being harmed by America via sanctions....we are hug believers in brutality.