Religions are mostly wrong

Cypress said:
Russia is arguably the most Christian nation in Europe but a large fraction of their population think it's okay to bomb Ukrainian cities into smoldering piles of ash.
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Truth Detector said:
Link to your bullshit! Russia doesn't even make it into the top ten!
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"Russia emerges as Europe's most God-believing nation"

Two decades after the collapse of the USSR, history's most atheistic state, the vast majority of Russians attest to a belief in God – more than in any other European country – according to a new opinion poll. The survey, carried out in April by the independent Public Opinion Fund (FOM), found that 82 percent of Russians say they are religious believers, while just 13 percent say they do not believe in any deity

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Eur...emerges-as-Europe-s-most-God-believing-nation
 
Truth Detector said:
What is common sense? Define it.

Moronic and meaningless claim.
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Is anyone really surprised that TD doesn't know the meaning of common sense? It doesn't surprise me.

Here, TD, let me help you understand what you clearly do not have...not that I blame the mentally ill for their inabilities to understand normal human behavior: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/common sense
sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts
 
BartenderElite said:
If you really look at most of them, so many of the tenets & principles are from a "human" perspective, and tie into human emotions like fear & hate, and also human reactions to that, like worship & sacrifice.

It always begs the question: why do we put SO much on words that were written by ancient peoples, who had no understanding of the world or universe around them.
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On a day to day basis, the vast majority of people today have no idea about quantum physics, thermodynamics, the basic principles of organic chemistry, and they can't explain why the sky is blue, why the ocean is salty, or what light and gravity really are as natural phenomena. The garden variety person is more literate and more trained in using technology today. But I don't think people today are vastly inherently and innately smarter than people 2000 years ago.

In saying religions are "mostly wrong", that requires some analysis.

If the idea is that the bible is supposed to be a historical and scientific document, then it is largely wrong.

The mythical and legendary aspects of religion are either beyond conformation or just plain wrong.

If religion is thought of as a way of living a human life in the context of a divine universal order, I don't think it's possible to say it is mostly wrong. It becomes subjective at that point. I really didn't find anything foolish from reading the Gospel of Luke, and the canonical texts of Buddhism, Daoism, Hinduism because they contain a vision of right conduct and ethics that are so timeless, we have adopted them for ourselves even when we strip away the religious context.
 
Cypress said:
"Russia emerges as Europe's most God-believing nation"

Two decades after the collapse of the USSR, history's most atheistic state, the vast majority of Russians attest to a belief in God – more than in any other European country – according to a new opinion poll. The survey, carried out in April by the independent Public Opinion Fund (FOM), found that 82 percent of Russians say they are religious believers, while just 13 percent say they do not believe in any deity

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Eur...emerges-as-Europe-s-most-God-believing-nation
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It is interesting that Putin is taking a page out of Hitler's book by disingenuously using religion to foment his agenda.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...defender-of-christianity-or-the-most-evil-man

Like Hitler who often referenced religious faith (even though it is questionable how religious he himself was), Putin seems to be gluing his people together using their faith. Meanwhile he is among the most evil, murderous dictators we've seen come down the pike in a while.

I agree that many of the great religious texts DO show a way to live a "good life" and be a good person, but religion is easily leveraged to form a cohesive mass of people who are primed to accept that unevidenced claims can have value. Religion, while it has led to a lot of good in the world, also has been too easily used to do evil as well.

I, personally, think it is because at its heart at least the WESTERN religions all come down to belief in an unevidenced claim of supernatural things which can easily be co-opted by those who want to put words in the mouths of invisible beings and thus command bad things.

If only people would focus on the good moral teachings, but it's still predicated on things which may very well be wholly imaginary.
 
Uhtceare said:
It is interesting that Putin is taking a page out of Hitler's book by disingenuously using religion to foment his agenda.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...defender-of-christianity-or-the-most-evil-man

Like Hitler who often referenced religious faith (even though it is questionable how religious he himself was), Putin seems to be gluing his people together using their faith. Meanwhile he is among the most evil, murderous dictators we've seen come down the pike in a while.

I agree that many of the great religious texts DO show a way to live a "good life" and be a good person, but religion is easily leveraged to form a cohesive mass of people who are primed to accept that unevidenced claims can have value. Religion, while it has led to a lot of good in the world, also has been too easily used to do evil as well.

I, personally, think it is because at its heart at least the WESTERN religions all come down to belief in an unevidenced claim of supernatural things which can easily be co-opted by those who want to put words in the mouths of invisible beings and thus command bad things.

If only people would focus on the good moral teachings, but it's still predicated on things which may very well be wholly imaginary.
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You don't get access to my time Perry PhD, until you can stop lying about yourself and posting under sock puppet accounts -->

Cypress said:
Uhtceare said:
Remember when you called me an antisemite? Yeah, you deserve all the opprobrium I can heap on you you LYING FUCK!
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No I don't remember Perry, because it was Jank who claimed I said that about him.

But this is obviously your public confession that while you were posting as Perry PhD, you were simultaneously running the sock puppet Jank.

Holy smoke, talk about lying and deception, you've got it in spades.
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Cypress said:
You don't get access to my time Perry PhD, until you can stop lying about yourself and posting under sock puppet accounts -->

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I was merely making a point about the point you made. If you can't handle that on its own merits then YOU are the broken party.

I understand argumentum ad hominem is your ONLY method when your usual appeal to authority fails.


Other than that, you mean nothing to me, so don't get to thinking "your time" is something I value. I understand you are like BidenPresident and cannot even accept someone might disagree with you.

Get over yourself and discuss your points, or don't. You don't usually have much of one of your own (usually it's nothing more than quoting other people)
 
Cypress said:
You don't get access to my time Perry PhD, until you can stop lying about yourself and posting under sock puppet accounts -->

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So I take it you like Putin's actions? Is that why you have the Russian Flag avatar? You can't address a point about Putin because you like him? Have to make it about me again?
 
Cypress said:
You don't get access to my time Perry PhD, until you can stop lying about yourself and posting under sock puppet accounts -->

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You can always tell it's Perry...you just can't tell him much.

There's no way to tell if he's really a PhD or not, but he's certainly proved he's cracked.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You can always tell it's Perry...you just can't tell him much.

There's no way to tell if he's really a PhD or not, but he's certainly proved he's cracked.
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JEEEEZUS you have talked more about my degrees than I EVER DID. You are OBSESSED.

Get some CBT and some SSRI's to take care of that. (I know you won't know what either one is without Googling, so knock yerself out, mr. "Psychology Major")
 
Uhtceare said:
JEEEEZUS you have talked more about my degrees than I EVER DID. You are OBSESSED.

Get some CBT and some SSRI's to take care of that. (I know you won't know what either one is without Googling, so knock yerself out, mr. "Psychology Major")
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Perry the Pussy. You're a pathetic troll.
 
Uhtceare said:
JEEEEZUS you have talked more about my degrees than I EVER DID. You are OBSESSED.

Get some CBT and some SSRI's to take care of that. (I know you won't know what either one is without Googling, so knock yerself out, mr. "Psychology Major")
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Yes, because I like to see you overreact as you just did.

Why should I Google it when you will talk about it endlessly? What did happen to you? You were working on your post-graduate degree and cracked under the strain? Adult-onset mental illness? Most too much pot and you developed a psychosis?

I know a guy named Randy had a similar experience. A promising career cut short by mental illness. You know, like Ted Kaczynski.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Yes, because I like to see you overreact as you just did.

Why should I Google it when you will talk about it endlessly? What did happen to you? You were working on your post-graduate degree and cracked under the strain? Adult-onset mental illness? Most too much pot and you developed a psychosis?

I know a guy named Randy had a similar experience. A promising career cut short by mental illness. You know, like Ted Kaczynski.
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I knew you wouldn't know even simple psychology terms. Wow. You must really have sucked at junior college.
 
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