"Researchers find bisexual and exclusively gay dolphins"

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none said:
true...i just wonder if they even realize it. we can't talk to them and verify it. i think using animal behavior to justify homosexuality behavior or feelings in humans is misguided. it would be like using an example of an animal sleeping with many different mates to justify adultery.
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I don't see it as "justifying" but as drawing a parallel.
 
Dixie said:
Sorry, but reading the article, all I see is a bunch of, what sounds like, liberal wishful thinking. They observed "sexual" behavior... they don't elaborate... what does it mean? My male dog is not gay or bi, however, he has been known to hump my leg. Animals instinctively react to stimulation triggers, it has nothing to do with their "feelings of sexuality." Did they observe these dolphins going to gay bars? Did they observe them making uncomfortable overtures toward straight dolphins? Did they actually observe dolphins having butt sex? My guess is, no... they speculated, based on their own preconceived idea or notion. The gay lobby has been doing this for a while now, the previous argument included 'gay' penguins. What is happening is, liberal mush-brains who want desperately to have something to hang this argument on, have looked around until they found something that appears to support their viewpoint, and they have proclaimed it to be valid, legitimate, and honest... we aren't to question that, else we will branded as racist bigots who hate gays.
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So, you think homosexuality is a choice?

I was kind of hoping someone w/ your level of ignorance & intolerance would start posting on this thread.
 
WinterBorn said:
New research shows dolphins can be straight, bisexual or gay.

"Pairs, trios or small groups of male dolphins will form exclusive groups that are sexual, social, and sustainable. One herd of seven males spent 17 years together in an intimate and affectionate clique."

http://now.msn.com/living/0329-dolphin-sexuality.aspx


So much for the "its unnatural argument".
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hey, wait a minute! you're not trying to con me into supporting gay marriage, are you? I feel.... I feel betrayed!
 
WinterBorn said:
New research shows dolphins can be straight, bisexual or gay.

"Pairs, trios or small groups of male dolphins will form exclusive groups that are sexual, social, and sustainable. One herd of seven males spent 17 years together in an intimate and affectionate clique."

http://now.msn.com/living/0329-dolphin-sexuality.aspx



So much for the "its unnatural argument".
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Oh, and stupid? They're queer dolphins. Do you know what queer means?

Definition of QUEER. 1. a: worthless, counterfeit
 
Onceler said:
"God, gays & guns" - I'm always amazed when I hear those as the top issues for some voters.

To hear some conservatives and religious folks talk about homosexuality, I would expect to open a Bible and see Christ talking about it roughly 80% of the time - railing against it, denouncing it as a sin, judging it. I really don't get how it has become one of the #1 issues for religious voters.

And "sanctity of marriage" is just another smokescreen.
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Agreed... about as stupid as the 'war on women'
 
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How to tell the gay dolphins from the rest of the normal dolphins.

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Onceler said:
So, you think homosexuality is a choice?

I was kind of hoping someone w/ your level of ignorance & intolerance would start posting on this thread.
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I think my answer might be surprising. No, I don't think homosexuality is a choice. I do, however, think that homosexual behavior IS a choice. I am not in any way, intolerant of gay people. Some of my closest and dearest friends (and relatives) are gay, and I love them equally to my straight friends and relatives. It's insulting to me, that you want to pigeonhole me as "intolerant" because I happen to disagree with gay marriage. Among my dearest gay friends, are a couple I have known for 30 years, two males who live together as husband and wife... they OPPOSE gay marriage! How/why is that so? Well, as they explained to me, they simply want resolution, so they can enjoy certain benefits of married couples, and they are fine with some kind of "civil unions" compromise, so they can get on with their life. It's simply not worth it to them to fight for "gay marriage" another 10..15..20 years, when they can moderate that a bit, and resolve virtually all their issues with civil unions. They actually view the "gay marriage" lobby as DETRIMENTAL to what they hope to achieve. So are these gay people "ignorant and intolerant?"
 
Dixie said:
Sorry, but reading the article, all I see is a bunch of, what sounds like, liberal wishful thinking. They observed "sexual" behavior... they don't elaborate... what does it mean? My male dog is not gay or bi, however, he has been known to hump my leg. Animals instinctively react to stimulation triggers, it has nothing to do with their "feelings of sexuality." Did they observe these dolphins going to gay bars? Did they observe them making uncomfortable overtures toward straight dolphins? Did they actually observe dolphins having butt sex? My guess is, no... they speculated, based on their own preconceived idea or notion. The gay lobby has been doing this for a while now, the previous argument included 'gay' penguins. What is happening is, liberal mush-brains who want desperately to have something to hang this argument on, have looked around until they found something that appears to support their viewpoint, and they have proclaimed it to be valid, legitimate, and honest... we aren't to question that, else we will branded as racist bigots who hate gays.
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They observed a pod consisting of ONLY male dolphins living as a unti for 17 years, and having sex. I think that is a bit more than a dog humping a leg.
 
Granule said:
Oh, and stupid? They're queer dolphins. Do you know what queer means?

Definition of QUEER. 1. a: worthless, counterfeit
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Would you care to explain how these dolphins are worthless, and the other dolphins have worth?

The counterfeit part is obviously laughable, since they were real dolphins.
 
Rana said:
Sorry, but we are animals, do you all forget that and as Animals there are behaviors that we share with other animals.
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And? Again, let's fully play that hand....

We shouldn't ever convict anybody of murder, animals kill each other (such as dogs killing genetic competition in the pack) regularly so it is "natural" and should never be considered a "sin" or "wrong" because it happens "in nature"...

We shouldn't convict anybody of infanticide, in nature as the new pack leader takes over they kill the genetic competition produced by their predecessor. It is "natural" therefore can't be a "sin"...

There are myriad examples.

Trying to simplify this into some inane black/white scenario where we should compare all of our actions to other animals and justify human action through theirs is just a stupid tack to take. We expect humans to act differently than these animals in just "these" things but justify human actions through other things animals do? It's about as stupid as telling me that Jesus says so and therefore I must do it.
 
WinterBorn said:
That has always amazed me when used on the topic of homosexuality. Who would choose to be ostrasized and reviled like gays have been for most of mankind's history? Who would choose to be disowned by their family or barred from so many jobs or social events?
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dude this is a dumb argument. there are lots of people that like feeling like a victim, or play oppression olympics.
 
WinterBorn said:
Would you care to explain how these dolphins are worthless, and the other dolphins have worth?

The counterfeit part is obviously laughable, since they were real dolphins.
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The ones that perpetuate their species have worth.

Their sexuality is counterfeit; they don't help perpetuate the species. And please don't give me that idiot "well gay dolphins help control overpopulation problems, because as you know, there are way too fucking many dolphins in the world!
 
I think some gay people are born that way, and I think other gay people become gay through various social environments etc.
 
Cynic said:
I think some gay people are born that way, and I think other gay people become gay through various social environments etc.
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Most serious research on sexuality has concluded that most sexual behavior is learned behavior. That is not to discredit that biology/genetics are not significant influencing factors in homosexual behavior, it's just that their is not enough evidence that shows a conclusive sole causal link. More than likely it is a combination of biological (genetics/hormonal) and environmental (learned/socialization) factors. In the grander scheme of things it's really a moot point as all sexual behavior is natural behavior.
 
Cynic said:
dude this is a dumb argument. there are lots of people that like feeling like a victim, or play oppression olympics.
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Oh no doubt there are those who do. But considering that for the biggest part of our history they have been beaten or even killed for it, that goes beyond oppression olympics.
 
Granule said:
The ones that perpetuate their species have worth.

Their sexuality is counterfeit; they don't help perpetuate the species. And please don't give me that idiot "well gay dolphins help control overpopulation problems, because as you know, there are way too fucking many dolphins in the world!
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LMAO! Oh that is a rich answer. the hatred shows thru even when discussing another species.

Counterfeit sexuality? Interesting concept. But their sexuality is only counterfeit if the sum total of sexuality is for reproduction. Obviously much of the sexual contact in these animals is purely for pleasure, and therefore whatever brings them pleasure is not counterfeit in the least.


As for the worth, you are wanting to subscribe to the idea that it is the species and not the individual that matter?
 
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