"Researchers find bisexual and exclusively gay dolphins"

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Dixie said:
They observed them for 17 years having unnatural butt sex instead of natural intercourse? I don't buy it!
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You do not believe that they observed an all male pod living together for 17 years or that members of the pod were observed having sexual contact?
 
As for the worth, you are wanting to subscribe to the idea that it is the species and not the individual that matter?
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I'll subscribe to that idea, since our behaviors are largely dependent on our species being civilized, a burden of criteria other species don't have to meet. If a male dog sees a female dog in heat, the male dog naturally attempts to mate with the female... do we apply this same natural instinct to humans, making it quite acceptable to rape women? No... we establish guidelines of behavior (laws) where we are expected, as a civilized species, to adhere to. If I am a hungry dog, and another dog has a big bowl of food, my natural instinct is to take the food for myself if I can... should this apply to people? Okay... one more... If I am a dog at your sister's wedding, and my balls itch, I might just start licking them right there in front of the preacher and guests.... should this same standard apply to people? ....I mean, other than in YOUR family?
 
Dixie said:
I'll subscribe to that idea, since our behaviors are largely dependent on our species being civilized, a burden of criteria other species don't have to meet. If a male dog sees a female dog in heat, the male dog naturally attempts to mate with the female... do we apply this same natural instinct to humans, making it quite acceptable to rape women? No... we establish guidelines of behavior (laws) where we are expected, as a civilized species, to adhere to. If I am a hungry dog, and another dog has a big bowl of food, my natural instinct is to take the food for myself if I can... should this apply to people? Okay... one more... If I am a dog at your sister's wedding, and my balls itch, I might just start licking them right there in front of the preacher and guests.... should this same standard apply to people? ....I mean, other than in YOUR family?
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So the whole natural/unnatural argument is irrelevant to you? Ok, I actually prefer that too. But it is still fun to shoot holes in the arguments of the ignorant.
 
WinterBorn said:
LMAO! Oh that is a rich answer. the hatred shows thru even when discussing another species.
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Do homosexuals themselves not refer to themselves as "Queer"? Granted, it's usually the more colorful and defiant gays who label themselves with that tag, but they still do it. Why do you suppose they are so self-loathing?
 
Granule said:
Do homosexuals themselves not refer to themselves as "Queer"? Granted, it's usually the more colorful and defiant gays who label themselves with that tag, but they still do it. Why do you suppose they are so self-loathing?
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I know its hard to keep up, but do try. I did not make the statement because you said "queer". In fact, the post I quoted did not have the word in it at all.
 
WinterBorn said:
I know its hard to keep up, but do try. I did not make the statement because you said "queer". In fact, the post I quoted did not have the word in it at all.
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There is no hatred here, liberal. I'm just stating facts. Queers (Homosexuals) have no real contributing value. The irnoic thing about this is that many gays agree, as they themselves often refer to themselves as "Queer".
 
Granule said:
There is no hatred here, liberal. I'm just stating facts. Queers (homosexuals) have no real contributing value. The irnoic thing about this is that many gays agree, as they themselves often refer to themselves as "Queer".
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So the only contribution any person makes is reproduction?

So your claim is that Louisa May Alcott, Susan B. Anthony, Louis Armstrong, Jane Austen, Francis Bacon, Ludwig Van Beethoven, President James Buchanan, Julia Child, Helen Clark (New Zealand Prime Minister), Copernicus, Leonardo Da Vinci, Rene Descartes, Sir Francis Drake, Amelia Earhart, William Faulkner, Dian Fossey, President Warren Gamaliel Harding, Katherine Hepburn, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Helen Keller, Sir Isaac Newton, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Florence Nightingale all have no real contributing value??

But some tramp without the sense to use birthcontrol has value?

Warped sense of value you have there.
 
Granule said:
How did "any person" get into this? We're talking about Queers, WB, not "any person". Start with your list: who in that list are/were homosexuals?
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Oh, I see. So homosexuals contribute nothing of value because they do not reproduce. But that does not apply to straights?

Ok, so you now claim a standard makes homosexuals worthless and yet you say we cannot apply it to heterosexuals?

Interesting double standard you have there. Judging them by standards that you do not use on anyone else is pretty much the definition of bigotry.
 
WinterBorn said:
Oh, I see. So homosexuals contribute nothing of value because they do not reproduce. But that does not apply to straights?

Ok, so you now claim a standard makes homosexuals worthless and yet you say we cannot apply it to heterosexuals?

Interesting double standard you have there. Judging them by standards that you do not use on anyone else is pretty much the definition of bigotry.
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How did straights get into this, WB? We're talking about Queers. First things first. Discuss your list....
 
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Granule said:
How did straights get into this, WB? We're talking about Queers. First things first. Discuss your list....
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Discuss my list? You want me to list only those who are homosexuals?

What possible difference could that make in whether or not they contributed something of value?

You are the one who claimed that those who do not reproduce contribute nothing of value. I simply showed you the error of your thinking.
 
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