Roger Stone sentence likely to be commuted

anatta said:
correct. the left are fascists intent on controlling speech by PC woke metrics
Click to expand...

That's not Fascism. Don't get me wrong, I think PC bullshit is terrible as it causes a culture of repression. But Fascism is when the government puts you in jail for expressing yourself, which is what Trump wants. The Left is annoying, but the Right is Fascist.
 
StoneByStone said:
That's not Fascism. Don't get me wrong, I think PC bullshit is terrible as it causes a culture of repression. But Fascism is when the government puts you in jail for expressing yourself, which is what Trump wants. The Left is annoying, but the Right is Fascist.
Click to expand...
example?
 
anatta said:
Stone committed no underlying crime.
he did not talk to da Russians or get inside info from WIKI.
everything he was convicted of was a "process crime"...
IOWs if there was no Mueller investigation there would be nothing Stone would have been charged with.

Like the Mueller investigation of Trump, the railroading of Stone was purely political
Click to expand...

Exactly.
 
anatta said:
example?
Click to expand...

Trump wants to have people arrested for burning the flag. Considering this is a guy who thinks criticism of him is unpatriotic, I could just imagine what he would do next if he got that law passed.

To put it into perspective, AOC said that Trump's tweets are hate speech, but they should still be legal. Even so-called "far-left" Liberals like AOC believe in freedom of speech.
 
StoneByStone said:
Trump wants to have people arrested for burning the flag. Considering this is a guy who thinks criticism of him is unpatriotic, I could just imagine what he would do next if he got that law passed.

To put it into perspective, AOC said that Trump's tweets are hate speech, but they should still be legal. Even so-called "far-left" Liberals like AOC believe in freedom of speech.
Click to expand...
it would never pass Constitutional muscle.
Trump is a patriot and hates to see our history sullied by the racist/Maoist of BLM;
his intent is honorable but he's no legal authority and wrong there.

And Trump doesn't even pass laws
 
anatta said:
it would never pass Constituiional muscle. Trump is a patriot and hates to see our history sullied by the racist/Maoist of BLM;
his intent is honorable but he's no legal authority and wrong there.

And Trump doesn't even pass laws
Click to expand...

That's beside the point. The point is that Trump doesn't believe in freedom of speech.

And sure, there are some Liberals who don't believe in freedom of speech either, but they're not mainstream activists or elected officials. It's only on the Right that we have elected officials, including the president, railing against western values.
 
StoneByStone said:
That's beside the point. The point is that Trump doesn't believe in freedom of speech.

And sure, there are some Liberals who don't believe in freedom of speech either, but they're not mainstream activists or elected officials. It's only on the Right that we have elected officials, including the president, railing against western values.
Click to expand...
only in that narrow construct.
the entire "cancel culture" opposes freedom of speech and they use extralegal methods to do so
tearing down statues is also a violation of freedom of speech, since it's done by a mob without representative consideration
 
anatta said:
only in that narrow construct.
the entire "cancel culture" opposes freedom of speech and they use extralegal methods to do so
tearing down statues is also a violation of freedom of speech, since it's done by a mob without representative consideration
Click to expand...

No, Cancel Culture is annoying and repressive, but it does not violate freedom of speech. Even if you get "cancelled" you won't get arrested. Freedom of speech means you can say what you want without getting oppressed by the government. It does not mean you could say whatever you want without a social backlash. Kathy Griffin was cancelled by snowflakes, but she wasn't arrested.

Tearing down statues isn't legal. Biden condemned illegally taking down statues. So while the Democratic nominee is protecting freedom of speech, the Republican president is trying to end it.
 
BartenderElite said:
I love how you were talking about "principle" this past week.

I mean, that's awesome.
Click to expand...

And what Ginger? I believe Roger Stone is innocent. He was railroaded by the corrupt and senile Muller. Justice was done here. There is nothing you can do about it but cry into your mask

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top