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[cawacko]

I went back and reviewed the article...
Ok so I was wrong Ron paul voted with the republicans 75% out of 80% of the total votes available to him.

I sincerely apologize for any confusion I have caused.
But that does not exuse one other persons actions imho.

You still aren't getting it. You just said the same thing you have been saying citizen.

The 75% is out of a 100% total. I'm not sure why you refuse to see and acknowledge that.

 

[uscitizen]

You still aren't getting it. You just said the same thing you have been saying citizen.

The 75% is out of a 100% total. I'm not sure why you refuse to see and acknowledge that.

read again closely what I said cawacko, I thinki have it right this time. He only voted in 80% of the votes he could have voted in.
Out of that 80% he voted with the republican rank and file 75% of the time.

75% of 80%

 

[cawacko]

the 75% says it does not include the times he did not vote which was 20%.

that's right, it does not include it. The 75% is out of the all the votes he made. Thus it is 75% out of 100%.

You are too focused on the 20% number. That number is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if that number is 10%, 30% or 50%.

Focus on the votes he did make. Those equal 100%. Of all those votes he voted with the Republican Party 75% of the time.

 

[uscitizen]

that's right, it does not include it. The 75% is out of the all the votes he made. Thus it is 75% out of 100%.

---Nope he only voted 80% of the time, he did not vote 100% of the votes that he could have voted---

You are too focused on the 20% number. That number is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if that number is 10%, 30% or 50%.

Focus on the votes he did make. Those equal 100%. Of all those votes he voted with the Republican Party 75% of the time.

also you might want to look at that 20% a few of the issues seems like he did not have the balls to stand up against the republicans to what he claims to stand for.



---My way is correct (NOW ) just not the way you want to see it.---

 

[cawacko]

---My way is correct (NOW ) just not the way you want to see it.---

No its not dude. You are saying the same thing over and over. You obviously do not want to admit you are wrong.

I'll explain one last time for you. If Ron Paul only voted two times this Congress, and missed 80% of the votes, and he voted with the Republican Party one time the article would read he voted with the Republican Party 50% of the time.

The focus is on his votes.

 

[Damocles]

You still aren't getting it. You just said the same thing you have been saying citizen.

The 75% is out of a 100% total. I'm not sure why you refuse to see and acknowledge that.

Nah, he has it right now. He only voted 80% of the time. Of those times he voted, he voted 75% with republicans, 25% against them.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I think that a person "voting with" their party mainly means they accept procedural motions and things that are generally accepted by both parties.

Case in point, my uber-conservative Democratic representative Gene Taylor voted with the Democrats 70% of the time, despite disagreeing with them on just about every substatiave issue proposed during his time in office.

 

[cawacko]

Nah, he has it right now. He only voted 80% of the time. Of those times he voted, he voted 75% with republicans, 25% against them.

No he doesn't have it right because he keeps saying Paul voted with the Republicans 75% out of 80% of the time. That is not correct. It is 75% out of 100% of his votes. The amount of votes he missed is irrelevant in this equation.

 

[uscitizen]

I think that a person "voting with" their party mainly means they accept procedural motions and things that are generally accepted by both parties.

Case in point, my uber-conservative Democratic representative Gene Taylor voted with the Democrats 70% of the time, despite disagreeing with them on just about every substatiave issue proposed during his time in office.

Look at his voting record and decide.

 

[uscitizen]

No he doesn't have it right because he keeps saying Paul voted with the Republicans 75% out of 80% of the time. That is not correct. It is 75% out of 100% of his votes. The amount of votes he missed is irrelevant in this equation.

sorry I got your head messed up man, but i am right now.

 

[cawacko]

sorry I got your head messed up man, but i am right now.

No, you are not. How were you wrong before and right now when you are saying the exact same thing?

I mean I can say 2 + 2 = 5 and claim I am right over and over.

Please re-read this one more time... my words are in the pararenthesis

'Ron Paul has voted with a majority of his Republican colleagues 75.0% (out of 100% of his votes) of the time during the current Congress. This percentage does not include votes in which Paul did not vote.'

Is is NOT 75% out of 80%.

 

[Damocles]

No, you are not. How were you wrong before and right now when you are saying the exact same thing?

I mean I can say 2 + 2 = 5 and claim I am right over and over.

Please re-read this one more time... my words are in the pararenthesis

'Ron Paul has voted with a majority of his Republican colleagues 75.0% (out of 100% of his votes) of the time during the current Congress. This percentage does not include votes in which Paul did not vote.'

Is is NOT 75% out of 80%.

It also seems to include every procedural vote that was available. Very few indeed are there for every single procedural vote.

 

[cawacko]

It also seems to include every procedural vote that was available. Very few indeed are there for every single procedural vote.

Damo, the issue is not whether he should have been there for every vote. That is a different discussion. Citizen is wrong in saying Paul voted for the Republican 75% out of 80% of the time. That is not what the article said. He's so wrong that he just decided to declare that he was right. Hence my 2 + 2 = 5 example. I can just start saying that is right as well.

 

[Timshel]

Are you dense or what, two seperate links with two seperate totals one was 20% no vote one was 75% voted with the republicans.
No wonder you want to vote for the guy.
Just not too bright huh ?

Uhh, hehe, you graduate with Dixie's math class? Your source says 75% with Repubs, without reference to non votes. You are a dumbass.

 

[Cancel7]

Here is for all of you Ron Paul people, because you don't even know what you look like, or how much it makes some laugh. Most specifically for RS, who calls anyone who doesn't fall to their knees and shriek, "Give Me That Old Time Religion Ron, God Almighty, Give me That Old Time Religion please Mr. Paul" a liar or stupid. Paul's gonna take ya'll to heaven, so give me that old time religion baby and sing it with me!

"Give me that old time religion give me that old time religion
Give me that old time religion it's good enough for me
It will do me when I'm dying it will do me when I'm dying
It will do me when I'm dying it's good enough for me
It will take us all to heaven it will take us all to heaven
It will take us all to heaven it's good enough for me
Give me that old time religion...
Give me that old time religion...
Yes it's good enough for me"

 

[Litmus]

Here is for all of you Ron Paul people, because you don't even know what you look like, or how much it makes some laugh. Most specifically for RS, who calls anyone who doesn't fall to their knees and shriek, "Give Me That Old Time Religion Ron, God Almighty, Give me That Old Time Religion please Mr. Paul" a liar or stupid. Paul's gonna take ya'll to heaven, so give me that old time religion baby and sing it with me!

"Give me that old time religion give me that old time religion
Give me that old time religion it's good enough for me
It will do me when I'm dying it will do me when I'm dying
It will do me when I'm dying it's good enough for me
It will take us all to heaven it will take us all to heaven
It will take us all to heaven it's good enough for me
Give me that old time religion...
Give me that old time religion...
Yes it's good enough for me"

And you support whom? Hillary the globalist neocon war supporter?

 

[blackascoal]

No, his voting record indicates he has a pro-free market view. This is different than being for "business interests" because that is always directed toward one politically-favored source or another.

He is firmly against corporate welfare and even outlines it in the opening list of this thread.

I'll ask again, who do you think the "free market" is?

It's large multi-national corporations and there is a serious disconnect in posing as an anti-corporatist while at the same time shilling to remove all regulations, restrictions, and limits from corporations.

It is naive to the nth degree to suggest that removing all regulations from corporations also removes political interests or that corporations will be self-governed and do what is the best interest of the American people.

 

[uscitizen]

Uhh, hehe, you graduate with Dixie's math class? Your source says 75% with Repubs, without reference to non votes. You are a dumbass.

And you sir are asshole.
Go beat up a poor person on the street.

I did a sincere apology and this is the response it get.
Consume excrement and expire.

 

[uscitizen]

I'll ask again, who do you think the "free market" is?

It's large multi-national corporations and there is a serious disconnect in posing as an anti-corporatist while at the same time shilling to remove all regulations, restrictions, and limits from corporations.

It is naive to the nth degree to suggest that removing all regulations from corporations also removes political interests or that corporations will be self-governed and do what is the best interest of the American people.

His voting record shows he voted for all of Bush's tax cuts and against the minimum wage. therefore paul is an elitist economist.

 

[Adam Weinberg]

there is a serious disconnect in posing as an anti-corporatist while at the same time shilling to remove all regulations, restrictions, and limits from corporations.

Fortunately, none of my advocacy involves removing all regulations, restrictions and limits on corporations. It does involve removing special favors from government for corporations, and that's something on which Ron Paul takes a stand regularly.