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[Damocles]

Let me tell you something Adam, and being as that you're just a boy, I'll go a little easier on you than I would on a full-fledged man...don't you come on here and tell me I should show intellectual curiosity and not listen to what some man wrote, as if I am some ditzy girl. It's ok for men to agree with each other, but I noticed since this influx of FP posters, that there is a problem if a woman agrees with something a man wrote.

My opinions and beliefs are already fully formed, long before BAC came along. He is a passionate leftist writer and I respect and enjoy his posts, but he in no way tells me what to think.

Notice I did not use the f word once...that won't happen again.

He didn't say it because you are a girl, that is weak. Do you ever get tired of using that excuse?

He would say it to anybody just simply taking his word regardless of their sex.

 

[Adam Weinberg]

Let me tell you something Adam, and being as that you're just a boy, I'll go a little easier on you than I would on a full-fledged man...don't you come on here and tell me I should show intellectual curiosity and not listen to what some man wrote, as if I am some ditzy girl. It's ok for men to agree with each other, but I noticed since this influx of FP posters, that there is a problem if a woman agrees with something a man wrote.

My opinions and beliefs are already fully formed, long before BAC came along. He is a passionate leftist writer and I respect and enjoy his posts, but he in no way tells me what to think.

Notice I did not use the f word once...that won't happen again.

Using your sex to suggest that is why I differ with your opinion is really beneath all of us. You did not once, or at least seemingly based on your response, consider what I had to say here in response to the material.

 

[uscitizen]

You can learn a lot about a person by actually learning about that person.

And I looked at RP's voting record vs his letter that I posted on the other board and they do not match up.

Thanks for giving me the initiative to understand RP a bit better.
I do appreciate that.

 

[Cancel7]

He didn't say it because you are a girl, that is weak. Do you ever get tired of using that excuse?

He would say it to anybody just simply taking his word regardless of their sex.

When do I use that "excuse" Damo?

And it's been said over and over, TO ME, since they came here.

Of course it's because I'm female, though they are probably not conscious of it.

Dont' worry Damo, little Adam can take care of himself. He sure can dish shit out...though in a nicer way that RS, whose defense I'm sure you'll spring too as soon as he comes on, but I'll say what I want to him too.

 

[uscitizen]

Let me tell you something Adam, and being as that you're just a boy, I'll go a little easier on you than I would on a full-fledged man...don't you come on here and tell me I should show intellectual curiosity and not listen to what some man wrote, as if I am some ditzy girl. It's ok for men to agree with each other, but I noticed since this influx of FP posters, that there is a problem if a woman agrees with something a man wrote.

My opinions and beliefs are already fully formed, long before BAC came along. He is a passionate leftist writer and I respect and enjoy his posts, but he in no way tells me what to think.

Notice I did not use the f word once...that won't happen again.

But Darla, the RP supporters are just like the bush supporters in their self assuredness. If you do not agree with them you are wrong

these RP threads have taught me about RP supporters.

 

[Cancel7]

Using your sex to suggest that is why I differ with your opinion is really beneath all of us. You did not once, or at least seemingly based on your response, consider what I had to say here in response to the material.

My gender is the most likely reason you and RS have been whining about my agreeing with bac since you both came on here. You haven't whined to anyone else about it.

I already know all about Paul and more importantly, all about Libertarians. I read your posts, and smile. I'm sorry if I'm not giving them the attention you feel they deserve.

 

[Cancel7]

But Darla, the RP supporters are just like the bush supporters in their self assuredness. If you do not agree with them you are wrong

Right, or stupid, or a liar, or didn't read what they wrote, because gosh if you read it, how could you not agree with them?

Get over yourselves.

 

[Damocles]

When do I use that "excuse" Damo?

And it's been said over and over, TO ME, since they came here.

Of course it's because I'm female, though they are probably not conscious of it.

Dont' worry Damo, little Adam can take care of himself. He sure can dish shit out...though in a nicer way that RS, whose defense I'm sure you'll spring too as soon as he comes on, but I'll say what I want to him too.

When? Consistently I have read on here, "You say that because I'm a girl!" often with no evidence other than the assertion. He didn't say, "Well, because you are a girl you must be a lopehead... therefore... blah, blah."

There was no indication that he said it because you are a 'girl'. He clearly said it because it appeared you didn't even consider what he had to say at all, but he never suggests that he thought it was because you were a 'girl' that you didn't consider it.

 

[Cancel7]

When? Consistently I have read on here, "You say that because I'm a girl!" often with no evidence other than the assertion. He didn't say, "Well, because you are a girl you must be a lopehead... therefore... blah, blah."

There was no indication that he said it because you are a 'girl'. He clearly said it because it appeared you didn't even consider what he had to say at all, but he never suggests that he thought it was because you were a 'girl' that you didn't consider it.

Go find the last post I said that in.

I'll wait.

 

[Adam Weinberg]

My gender is the most likely reason you and RS have been whining about my agreeing with bac since you both came on here. You haven't whined to anyone else about it.

I already know all about Paul and more importantly, all about Libertarians. I read your posts, and smile. I'm sorry if I'm not giving them the attention you feel they deserve.

It hardly has anything to do with me. It has to do with the ideas. Do you care to respond to the original content of my misgivings with his response or would you rather make this into an issue related to gender?

Frankly, I know you are very sensitive about this issue and I have no interest in ever having to revisit it, because it's not something that motivates or concerns my ideas.

 

[Damocles]

My gender is the most likely reason you and RS have been whining about my agreeing with bac since you both came on here. You haven't whined to anyone else about it.

I already know all about Paul and more importantly, all about Libertarians. I read your posts, and smile. I'm sorry if I'm not giving them the attention you feel they deserve.

Go find the last post I said that in.

I'll wait.

This thread. But that isn't what you are talking about. You are being disingenuous if you actually assert that you haven't said it before.

 

[uscitizen]

that disingenuious word again.....

 

[Cancel7]

This thread. But that isn't what you are talking about. You are being disingenuous if you actually assert that you haven't said it before.

No, I don't remember saying that. In fact, you are pulling this out of your ass, with no evidence, and I'll see the evidence or you can say you pulled it out of your ass, because you think I say that all of the time, and then you can look inside your own head as to why you might think that.

 

[Damocles]

Right:

dis·in·gen·u·ous /ˌdɪsɪnˈdʒɛnyuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dis-in-jen-yoo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere: Her excuse was rather disingenuous.

 

[Cancel7]

Consistently I have read on here, "You say that because I'm a girl!"

If this refers specifically to me, can you back this up with some evidence please?

 

[Damocles]

No, I don't remember saying that. In fact, you are pulling this out of your ass, with no evidence, and I'll see the evidence or you can say you pulled it out of your ass, because you think I say that all of the time, and then you can look inside your own head as to why you might think that.

Okay, I'll fricking search for it. You actually are pretending that you don't remember saying...

"It's because you think (insert whatever here) because I am a female!"

I know I have read it more than twice from you.

 

[Cancel7]

Right:

dis·in·gen·u·ous /ˌdɪsɪnˈdʒɛnyuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dis-in-jen-yoo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere: Her excuse was rather disingenuous.

pull·ed out of his ass /

-as in, he pulled something out of his ass, and when asked for evidence accused the other person of being dishonest.

 

[uscitizen]

Right:

dis·in·gen·u·ous /ˌdɪsɪnˈdʒɛnyuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dis-in-jen-yoo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere: Her excuse was rather disingenuous.

right just look in the mirror sometimes Damo

You most common method is by empahsising one point of an issue and ignoring the rest.

We all do that from time to time. And this statement is not linked to Darla's current dispute with you.

 

[Cancel7]

Okay, I'll fricking search for it. You actually are pretending that you don't remember saying...

"It's because you think (insert whatever here) because I am a female!"

I know I have read it more than twice from you.

Well, why should you have to "search" for it, when you claimed that I consistently say this?

That I "always" use this "excuse"?

I don't know, I wouldn't think it'd be much of a search. I mean, you shouldn't have to call in the coast guard or anything.

 

[blackascoal]

Well, then you should probably exercise some more intellectual curiosity and not believe what other people tell you so easily.

What would make you believe that she doesn't excersise discernment and doesn't validate what others say .. including you. She disagrees with your position, thus she must also not be discerning?

That's stupid.

The only actual piece of information there that is potentially from Ron Paul is the quote, and I can't help but notice that the quote is not something I really disagree with at all, even if it suggests that there are Christian institutions in America...that's not wrong, and it's certainly not lending any credibility to the theocracy or authoritarianism the writer goes on to state it supports.

Just more bullshit. It appears that you don't know you own candidate.

"The Christmas spirit, marked by a wonderful feeling of goodwill among men, is in danger of being lost in the ongoing war against religion."

"Goodwill among men"?? .. From a man who has no compassion for seniors and would leave their well-being up to "charity", and from a man who believes it's ROBBERY for all Americans to assist other Americans who suffer from natural disasters .. leave it up to charity.

"Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity."

ONLY a complete idiot would believe that bullshit. MOST liberals, leftists, and democrats are also christians and attend church. This is nothing but lies and fear-mongering.

I don't do Christmas, I celebrate Kwanzaa. Is that an "attack" on Christmas? Am I suggesting a bias against christianity?

It's a statement that endorses liberty and free society.

Liberty and freedom implies the right to decide for yourself if you want to be a christian or participate in christian rituals. Nit have it forced on you by the state.

He says in it that private institutions in a free society help us to achieve moral and spiritual independence. What is the alternative? Is the suggestion of the writer that we get our morals from the State? This is not even liberal, let alone a libertarian point of view if so.

I, like a great many others, chose not to participate in Christian Coalition/right-wing hate group ideas of "God", nor do we believe that morals and spirtuality come from the church only. There is no spirituality in libertarian idealism. There is no spirituality in any religion or person that teaches hate .. and Paul associates with lots of 'em.

Your posts are intellecxtually dishonest and you chose to glam around on the surface his preachings rather than to dig and search for real substance.

You are in no position to admonish Darla or anyone else about not believing what someone tells you without investigation for yourself.