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NOVA said:
And why would you assume that the intelligence he was privy to didn't tell him that is where they would find WMD ?.....You think he just made it all up ?....
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so here is the thinking of the left....rummy and the boys just made it all up, full knowing that nothing would be found and in the end they would be left holding the bag....or is it possible the intel was just wrong, kinda like when we bombed the chinese embassy by mistake or maybe in the almost year and a half countdown saddam sent things out of country....no bush must have lied because none of those scenarios are even plausible.....only the gotta hate bush crowd....
 
Right said:
That's just your biased opinion. Rummy was instrumental in getting a democratically elected government in Afghanistan, and one that was friendly to US interests. Now The Obama has destroyed that, so you attack Rummy to defend The Obama.
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Utter nonsense
 
NOVA said:
What Rumsfeld actually said, in context.....

“Our relationship with Karzai and with Afghanistan was absolutely first-rate in the Bush administration,” Rumsfeld told Fox News’s Greta Van Susteren......"

Rumsfeld pointed to the fact that the Obama administration has failed to get Karzai to sign an agreement that would allow some U.S. troops to remain in Afghanistan after 2014, when combat ends.


The U.S. has status of forces agreements with more than a hundred countries, Rumsfeld noted. “A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement,” he said. “It does not take a genius. And we have so mismanaged that relationship.”

Its funny you pinheads didn't spin it to mean that he was talking about Bush getting a 'a status of forces agreement'.....but I guess playing the race card is more your style....
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Laughable. The only way Bush/Rumsfeld got anyone to stop shooting at us, was through bribery. 'The Surge' in Iraq wasn't about more troops...it was about bribing the insurgents to stop shooting at us.

Karzai is a whore who loves U.S dollars. Now that those dollars are not going to line his pockets, he has no interest in being 'friends'.

Too bad for him...he'll be murdered within a week of our exit.
 
Behind a seemingly never-ending game of brinkmanship with the United States over a bilateral security agreement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has a simple goal, according to U.S. military officials: Ensure that billions of dollars in aid from Washington continues to flow to feed the cycle of corruption that keeps him in power.
“It’s all about the money,” said one senior U.S. official, who like the others spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity.
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]The poker game over an estimated $4 billion to $6 billion a year in U.S. and NATO aid that would be expected to continue to flow into the country if a new agreement is signed is playing out on the stage of international diplomacy, but U.S. officials say financial considerations are driving Karzai’s negotiating tactics. Those considerations reportedly include bags of cash he collects from the CIA.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/k...imed-keeping-us-money-filling-his-f2D11679488

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It's a truth many hold to be self-evident that more American troops translate into less Iraqi violence. AsPresident Bush said in January's State of the Union speech, "Some may deny the surge is working, but among the terrorists there is no doubt."
But some military experts do have doubts, arguing there's actually a mightier force at work -- hundreds of millions in cash given to Iraqis, for everything from picking up garbage to taking up arms against al Qaeda.
Retired Army Col. Doug Macgregor, a longtime critic of top Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus, said it's a "cash-for-peace" scheme that is bound to backfire.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/pentagon.surge/

 
maineman said:
damn right I am. I swore to uphold the constitution against all enemies foreign AND domestic. If I were on active duty and got asked to serve on the firing squad that executed Bush, Cheney and Rummy for war crimes, I'd JUMP at the chance.
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Of course you would; you're a clueless leftist expat living in the slums of Mexico! You really are THAT fucking stupid.

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christiefan915 said:
That bit about the POTUS being the de facto leader of the free world is always a staple of right wing blogs, that is until they randomly anoint a new leader.

"These remarks were made in Hong Kong, not the United Nations building. The speaker was not the current President of the United States, who is sadly irrelevant to the cause of freedom. It was Sarah Palin – who is, for the moment, the de facto leader of the free world."

The economy failed because of a liquidity crisis (remember LIBOR?), burst of the housing bubble, subprime mortgage industry collapse. Why weren't the bushies on top of things making executive decisions while all this was going on starting in 2007? It's just too funny how you want to blame the collapse of the global economy on Barney Frank. Even the hackiest dullard has to concede there were multiple reasons, not just one spelled O-B-A-M-A..
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Again, you're too stupid for prime time; while claiming Obama is blameless on everything, clueless dummies like you want to blame Bush for everything.

Barnie Frank definitely had his hand all over the mortgage collapse as did dimwitted Democrats who attacked the regulator in Senate hearings on the issue back in 2004. You're just too stupid to care about facts, reality and the truth.

Don't believe me or anyone else, then here they are in their own words; Democrats were “pissed off” that they had to waste their time to listen to testimony from their own regulator and attacked him; listen and become partially informed and try not to be so damned ignorant:

 
NOVA said:
Right...you dunno....no doubt about that either....coincidently, I had dinner with a friend suffering from Agent Orange exposure just last night.
course I never heard you say you would volunteer to serve on LBJ's or McNamara's firing squad...

I won't defend the mistakes of any of them, 20-20 hindsight and all that shit, but I certainly put do them in perspective and what they each cost the country....
The Gulf of Tonkin was a total lie and was used to kill tens of thousands of people....while the mistakes and beliefs of Bush and Rummy can be traced to beliefs (or lies, if you prefer) that were common to both partys and dozens of people in both partys and thats something that I certainly can't not consider .... mainly because its the undeniable historical truth.
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BINGO!
 
christiefan915 said:
Looks like you got "two" and "to" confused too. :D

Since I'm a bleeding-heart liberal I won't make your stupid mistakes part of my signature. No thanks are necessary.
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Yeah; spelling errors or always good for dishonest leftist dunces to glom onto just as making a mistake about names are so that you can dishonestly deflect from your glaring stupidity.

Those aren't mistakes in my signature you moron; they are illustrations of the pathetic irony of whiney lefttards who rant about others insults. But you're too stupid and dishonest to comprehend much of anything.
 
christiefan915 said:
If rummy said he KNEW where the WMD were located, that was a lie no matter how you slice it.
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Wrong again moron; it is only a lie if one moronically presumes that he knew there were none. And one can only presume that Rumsfeld was lying if one claims that the Clinton’s were lying, Al Gore was lying, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi were lying etc etc.

But alas, you're a clueless leftist stuck on that special brand of partisan stupid like your dimwitted pal Mainetard.
 
NOVA said:
Do we have to re-post the warnings given in 2001, 2003 and later by Bush about the impending failure of Freddy and Fanny and what Barney and company replied again and again
until you finally get it ?
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Most likely the answer is yes because low information dunces can't remember much past yesterday.
 
christiefan915 said:
No, it's my way of poking the person who calls me a liberal dunce and repugnant liar in every one of his responses to me.
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Another lie; it is your way of deflecting away from your glaring stupidity. I am amused that you whine about my insults when you engage in the same thing. Got hypocrite shit-for-brains?

You whiney lefttards all wallow in the same stupidity, irony and hypocrisy.
 
christiefan915 said:
Sorry about deconstructing your spin. The official DoD transcript says otherwise.

MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?

SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

Second, the [audio glitch] facilities, there are dozens of them, it's a large geographic area. It is the -- Answar Al-Islam group has killed a lot of Kurds. They are tough. And our forces are currently in there with the Kurdish forces, cleaning the area out, tracking them down, killing them or capturing them and they will then begin the site exploitation. The idea, from your question, that you can attack that place and exploit it and find out what's there in fifteen minutes.

http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=2185
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It never occurs to clueless hyper partisan dunces like you that he actually believed they knew where they were, does it? It just won’t fit your narrow dullard myopic talking points.

It also doesn't occur to you why these very smart people would deliberately lie knowing the political ramifications had WMDs not been found.

So one has to wonder what idiots like you would think they would have to gain by getting caught lying about WMDs? Do share with us the whacky logic that erupts from leftist dunces fingers that would explain the logic of lying America into a war of choice? Is it your claim they didn't think they would get caught? Face it, dunces like you are too stupid for prime time.
 
grumpyone said:
so here is the thinking of the left....rummy and the boys just made it all up, full knowing that nothing would be found and in the end they would be left holding the bag....or is it possible the intel was just wrong, kinda like when we bombed the chinese embassy by mistake or maybe in the almost year and a half countdown saddam sent things out of country....no bush must have lied because none of those scenarios are even plausible.....only the gotta hate bush crowd....
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BINGO! And yes, Liberals really are THAT stupid and THAT dishonest.
 
Althea said:
Laughable. The only way Bush/Rumsfeld got anyone to stop shooting at us, was through bribery. 'The Surge' in Iraq wasn't about more troops...it was about bribing the insurgents to stop shooting at us.

Karzai is a whore who loves U.S dollars. Now that those dollars are not going to line his pockets, he has no interest in being 'friends'.

Too bad for him...he'll be murdered within a week of our exit.
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Another painfully stupid commentary from a clueless idiot.
 
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