Russia neutralizes Ukraine's air defences, command posts, communications.

Some coverage that western governments don't want us to hear;

Russian strikes on Lviv raise fears of Ukraine war spreading west
Aircraft plant hit as Russia claims to be ‘tightening noose” around south-eastern port city of Mariupol


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/18/russia-missile-lviv-mariupol-ukraine-war


Russian missiles hit aircraft plant near Lviv airport in western Ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ft-plant-near-lviv-airport-in-western-ukraine

Russia-Ukraine live news: Deaths as several cities bombarded
Russian strikes hit Kyiv, Lviv in the west, and Kharkiv and Kramatorsk in the east, Ukrainian officials say.


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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/17/un-says-more-than-700-civilians-killed-ukraine-liveblog
 
Odessa is a beautiful city. I'll be really saddened when this moron causes it to be levelled;

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Ukraine food supply chain collapsing

A World Food Programme (WFP) official said on Friday that food supply chains in Ukraine were collapsing, with a portion of infrastructure destroyed and many grocery stores and warehouses now empty.

Jakob Kern, WFP emergency coordinator for the Ukraine crisis, also expressed concern about the situation in “encircled cities” such as Mariupol, saying supplies were running out and its convoys had not yet been able to enter the city.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...in-as-russian-military-offensives-falter-live


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No plates for the army
https://www.unian.info/politics/zel...rvice-gaffe-leads-to-online-row-11181683.html
 
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I notice that there are almost no reports on the competence of the Russian Forces, which almost certainly means that they are doing an awesome job.

Unlike American Generals now I figure that the Russian Generals know how to fight.

The Russian forces performed incompletely, were decisively defeated at the battle of Kyiv, had to retreat to Belarus, and are reduced to shelling, raping, and terrorizing civilians.
 
Russia has retreated, and is now simply random bombing Mariupol and failing to take the Donbas region.
 
Russian forces capture several villages in push into eastern Ukraine
Ukrainian army driven out of Velyka Komyshuvakha and Zavody, while concern grows over Transnistria


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/27/russia-forces-capture-villages-eastern-ukraine-war

Russia attacks infrastructure in western Ukraine to slow supply lines
Railways, fuel depots and bridges are being targeted to hinder delivery of weapons to Donbas


The aim of Russian attacks is likely to slow the rapidly expanding delivery of weapons from Nato allies to the eastern front, while also hindering exports of grain and other commodities that help Kyiv pay for the war. With the country’s Black Sea ports are closed to shipping, overland routes are even more vital.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rastructure-western-ukraine-slow-supply-lines
 
This thread has aged more poorly than Darth's 61 thread. I wonder if Covid got Darth. Could have easily happened.
 
The thread opened with- ' Russia has asked the Ukrainian military to lay down their weapons and go home. Seems like a good plan to me. '

They didn't, unfortunately- but they still could.
 
This thread has aged more poorly than Darth's 61 thread. I wonder if Covid got Darth. Could have easily happened.

Moon was obviously eagerly anticipating an easy Russian victory, with Ukraine submitting within a matter of days.
 
Moon was obviously eagerly anticipating an easy Russian victory, with Ukraine submitting within a matter of days.

Which brings up an interesting point..... how are Ukraine and Afghanistan different? There are some obvious differences, but there are also many similarities. Why did the Afghan Army and leadership just roll over instead of fighting? Sorry for the digression, but this is one case where past was not prologue. If Zelensky had fled the country, I doubt we would be where we are today.
 
Which brings up an interesting point..... how are Ukraine and Afghanistan different? There are some obvious differences, but there are also many similarities. Why did the Afghan Army and leadership just roll over instead of fighting? Sorry for the digression, but this is one case where past was not prologue. If Zelensky had fled the country, I doubt we would be where we are today.

My sense is that Afghans were not willing to die for a hopelessly corrupt government. Afghanistan was led by criminals.

I suppose tribal loyalties are at least as important in multi-ethnic Afghanistan as national loyalty.

Ukrainians are fighting for something they believe in. Ukrainian sovereignty and independence. Those are potent ideas which penetrate deeply into the Ukrainian consciousness. Ukrainian identity and nationalism has been a potent force since the 19th century at least.

^^ Zalensky has tapped into that.
 
My sense is that Afghans were not willing to die for a hopelessly corrupt government.

I suppose tribal loyalties are at least as important in multi-ethnic Afghanistan as national loyalty.

Ukrainians are fighting for something they believe in. Ukrainian sovereignty and independence. Those are potent ideas which penetrate deeply into the Ukrainian consciousness. Ukrainian identity and nationalism has been a potent force since the 19th century at least.

Yep, that's the obvious difference. Karzai couldn't run fast enough. And take the money with him. This was a miscalculation by the Biden Administration, but obviously our continued presence there was pointless.
 
Ukrainians are fighting for something they believe in. Ukrainian sovereignty and independence. Those are potent ideas which penetrate deeply into the Ukrainian consciousness. Ukrainian identity and nationalism has been a potent force since the 19th century at least.

Many Ukrainians are pro-Russian. Their elected pro-Russian president was removed by way of a US-led coup. The Neo-Nazi anti-Russian Ukrainians- which you support- then proceeded to shell those Ukrainians who objected to their democracy being spat upon. Nevertheless, they believed in their own democracy and independence and formed republics- the republics that the Russians purport to protect.

You don't appear to know a great deal about ' freedom and democracy', do you, you pious fool.
 
Moon was obviously eagerly anticipating an easy Russian victory, with Ukraine submitting within a matter of days.

How much simpler and more humane it would have been. Still, Western arms dealers and Russophobes, such as yourself, thought that 6 million people displaced, infrastructure obliterated and hundreds of thousands of people dead was a better option.
In your own words- which you had the fucking effrontery to level at ME- you are a shameless wanker over corpses and destruction .
Perhaps you should now just stfu.
 
How much simpler and more humane it would have been. Still, Western arms dealers and Russophobes, such as yourself, thought that 6 million people displaced, infrastructure obliterated and hundreds of thousands of people dead was a better option.
In your own words- which you had the fucking effrontery to level at ME- you are a shameless wanker over corpses and destruction .
Perhaps you should now just stfu.
Surely you are thus also advocating Palestinians just give up dreams of resistance and independence, and just submit to their fate under the better armed Israelis.
 
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