Ryan: Don't interfere with legalized medical pot

DOJ isn't interfering with medical marijuana.

They're acting on the illegal use of the medical marijuana guidelines.

Colorado is especially bad.
 
Althea said:
DOJ isn't interfering with medical marijuana.

They're acting on the illegal use of the medical marijuana guidelines.

Colorado is especially bad.
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This is really the point. If it's legal, fine. If not, don't complain when you get busted. Play by the rules and try to get others to do the same.
 
Althea said:
DOJ isn't interfering with medical marijuana.

They're acting on the illegal use of the medical marijuana guidelines.

Colorado is especially bad.
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Obama's DOJ is worse than that of George Bush on medical marijuana .. and, he's costing the state of California hundreds of millions in lost revenue and jobs.

Obama's War On Weed Costing California Jobs and $$
http://www.citywatchla.com/8box-left/3695-obamas-war-on-weed-costing-california-jobs-and-

Obama simply cannot be trusted on this issue.
 
clinton didn't inhale, bush snorted coke, was an alcoholic, obama snorted coke, smoked pott....but all thread are against the legalization of marijuana

go figure
 
blackascoal said:
Obama's DOJ is worse than that of George Bush on medical marijuana .. and, he's costing the state of California hundreds of millions in lost revenue and jobs.

Obama's War On Weed Costing California Jobs and $$
http://www.citywatchla.com/8box-left/3695-obamas-war-on-weed-costing-california-jobs-and-

Obama simply cannot be trusted on this issue.
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Of course his DOJ is 'worse'. 'Medical' marijuana abuse is up 1000% percent since the day Obama was inaugurated.

In Colorado, doctors had been dispensing mm prescriptions over the phone, or online, without ever seeing a patient.

Legalization is one fight.

Using mm laws to obtain weed illegally is another.
 
blackascoal said:
Obama's DOJ is worse than that of George Bush on medical marijuana .. and, he's costing the state of California hundreds of millions in lost revenue and jobs.

Obama's War On Weed Costing California Jobs and $$
http://www.citywatchla.com/8box-left/3695-obamas-war-on-weed-costing-california-jobs-and-

Obama simply cannot be trusted on this issue.
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If they're breaking the law, they should be tried, convicted and sent away. The law isn't some kind of guideline. People seem to have gotten it into their heads that if they don't like a law(traffic, city, drug) they can just ignore it, then they get angry when the police don't agree.
 
Ryan, is nothing but a tease. Nothing he says or thinks matters for much other than to attract votes. Romney will let him say this because he is not obligated to stand by it anyway. Obama, could hardly send out Biden on this sort of thing, so he used a lot of weasel words. The point is to lure in the unsuspecting.
 
Althea said:
Of course his DOJ is 'worse'. 'Medical' marijuana abuse is up 1000% percent since the day Obama was inaugurated.

In Colorado, doctors had been dispensing mm prescriptions over the phone, or online, without ever seeing a patient.

Legalization is one fight.

Using mm laws to obtain weed illegally is another.
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Much love for you brother. Seriously, you and I have known each other for several years. We can fight the good fight and still come away with respect.

That being said :0) .. this issue is one of the most glaring examples of where you give up control of your critical mind and give over to the system. I say that with no disrespect, but rather with clear and honest analysis.

Presidential Candidate Barack Obama Backs Federal Decriminalization -- “I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws.”

Washington, DC: At a 2004 appearance at Northwestern University by Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama, calls for the federal decriminalization of marijuana, was posted online today by The Washington Times. In that appearance, Obama states, "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws." Obama continued, saying that while he supported decriminalization, he did not support the full legalization of marijuana.

In contrast, Senator Obama appeared to oppose decriminalization in a 2007 Democratic primary debate when MSNBC moderator Tim Russert asked candidates who opposed then-candidate Senator Chris Dodd’s support of decriminalization to raise their hands. In the video, Senator Obama is seen hesitantly raising his hand halfway before quickly lowering it again.

When asked about the two different answers, Senator Obama’s campaign stated that he has "always" supported decriminalization, and that Obama misunderstood the question when he raised his hand in the debate. In that same statement, Obama’s campaign reiterated the Senator’s opposition to full legalization, but said that an Obama administration "will review drug sentences to see where we can be smarter on crime and reduce the blind and counterproductive sentencing of non-violent offenders."

"It appears Senator Obama, alone among the major candidates for the presidency, has the courage to state the obvious: it is time that we stopped treating responsible marijuana smokers like criminals," said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre. "According to a recent CNN/Time Warner poll, 76% of the American people agree with Senator Obama, as well as the 48 million Americans who smoked marijuana last year."
http://norml.org/news/2008/01/31/pr...-rethink-and-decriminalize-our-marijuana-laws

Part of the appeal and REASON why many people, especially young people, went to the polls and voted for Obama was because he appeared to offer a saner approach to drug laws and the failed war on drugs and non-white people. That was part of his planned appeal.

Flash forward to today ..from the liberal press .. don't blame it on Fox

Despite Terrible Record on Medical Marijuana, Obama Cynically Tries to Appeal to Pot Smokers

President Obama needs young people to turn out to vote for him if he is going to win this November. He also must know by now, since it dominated every online forum geared to younger voters, that one issue young people really care about is reforming our destructive marijuana laws. Yet instead of actually using his powers as President to improve the situation to appeal to these voters, he instead just made a web video with Harold and Kumar. The video heavily implied that the famous duo had recently been smoking pot.

The video might be funny if it was not so appallingly cynical. Despite the “being cool” image Obama is trying to sell with this video, when it comes to marijuana policy, he is the worst recent president; Obama is worse than Clinton or Bush on medical marijuana.

The Obama administration has waged an aggressive multi-agency war on medical marijuana. Under Obama agencies including DEA, IRS, ATF and DOJ have harassed patients, raided dispensaries and even openly threatened public employees to impede their state’s medical marijuana program.

If Obama actually wants to appeal to voters who care about marijuana, instead of appearing in a stupid video, maybe he should try simply being less horrible on the issue. For example Obama could take up the petition several governors have signed to have marijuana rescheduled. At a bare minimum Obama could publicly endorse the idea of medical marijuana. This would be a real symbolic move that should carry zero political risk, since 81 percent of Americans already support medical marijuana.

It would be remarkably easy for Obama to take actions that would prove he would at least be less awful than Mitt Romney on the issue of marijuana, but so far his administration’s behavior has been so bad Obama has failed to even clear that low bar.
http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2...ama-cynically-tries-to-appeal-to-pot-smokers/

Obama Administration’s Medical Marijuana Policies Now Worse Than Bush and Clinton Policies
http://stash.norml.org/obama-admini...cies-now-worse-than-bush-and-clinton-policies

Obama’s Multi-Agency War on Medical Marijuana
http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2011/10/10/obamas-multi-agency-war-on-medical-marijuana/

I could go on beating you up with facts for days good brother. There are no facts that support your position.

There is only your loyalty to control.

Stop being controlled.
 
Disillusioned said:
If they're breaking the law, they should be tried, convicted and sent away. The law isn't some kind of guideline. People seem to have gotten it into their heads that if they don't like a law(traffic, city, drug) they can just ignore it, then they get angry when the police don't agree.
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See post #13
 
until it is taken off the top schedual as a drug then by law Obama or any president has to follow the laws.


They have a duty to make sure the MJ dispensories are distributing legally and within the laws that exsist.

Do you really think NO ONE complains about these dispensories in the communities in which they exsist.


What do you think the right would have done to Obama if he pulled MJ off the drug list in his first term?
 
thesuperego said:
Ryan, is nothing but a tease. Nothing he says or thinks matters for much other than to attract votes. Romney will let him say this because he is not obligated to stand by it anyway. Obama, could hardly send out Biden on this sort of thing, so he used a lot of weasel words. The point is to lure in the unsuspecting.
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I don't disagree that Ryan can't be trusted. But obviously Obama has proven that he can't be trusted either.
 
evince said:
until it is taken off the top schedual as a drug then by law Obama or any president has to follow the laws.


They have a duty to make sure the MJ dispensories are distributing legally and within the laws that exsist.

Do you really think NO ONE complains about these dispensories in the communities in which they exsist.


What do you think the right would have done to Obama if he pulled MJ off the drug list in his first term?
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What does it matter what the right would have done? What would the right do to Obama if he came out and said he supported gay marriage? Every decision you make as President is going to be criticized by someone. If you are afraid of criticism you probably shouldn't be in elected office.
 
what would you idiots be saying about the first black president deschedualing MJ as a top priority?

Yes it does matter because it distroys his ability to get traction on other issues.


I think hes waiting for new studies that he can lay on the table to explain why MJ is safe enough to deschedual
 
evince said:
until it is taken off the top schedual as a drug then by law Obama or any president has to follow the laws.


They have a duty to make sure the MJ dispensories are distributing legally and within the laws that exsist.

Do you really think NO ONE complains about these dispensories in the communities in which they exsist.


What do you think the right would have done to Obama if he pulled MJ off the drug list in his first term?
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There are two questions here my friend.

First, did he betray what he stated during the campaign? I've already posted evidence of that and I can add a lot more if you need it. Thus, the proven answer to the question is absolutely he betrayed what he stated.

Second, and more directly to your question, what would the republicans have done?

Start from here ..


Lunacy: election looms as Obama avoids huge pro-marijuana demographic -- exceprt

62% of voters from age 18-29 support legalization. 67% of liberal voters support legalization.

57% of Moderates, Democrats, and Independents support legalization.

56% of voters from age 30-49 support legalization.

More than 70% of all Americans support medical marijuana.

These are the demographic groups President Obama's campaign is trying to reach.

From a February 2012 article by Rolling Stone magazine: "Back when he was running for president in 2008, Barack Obama insisted that medical marijuana was an issue best left to state and local governments. 'I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,' he vowed, promising an end to the Bush administration's high-profile raids on providers of medical pot, which is legal in 16 states [now 17 states] and the District of Columbia."

President Obama has not only betrayed that vow, he has decimated his credibility with the pro-marijuana demographic. His administration conducted more than 100 raids on medical marijuana dispensaries during his first three years in office, to say nothing of his intensive 2012 campaign to shut the doors of tax-paying, law-abiding, job-creating, state-regulated dispensaries. His record - according to Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project - exceeds that of former president George W. Bush, making Obama the most destructive and severe president in history on the issue of marijuana.
http://www.examiner.com/article/lunacy-election-looms-as-obama-avoids-huge-pro-marijuana-demographic

Majority of Americans support marijuana legalization
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/183541/majority-of-americans-support-marijuana-legalization/

What did republicans say about his health care bill, his jobs bill, his auto bailout, his stimulus .. or anything else he has to say? You don't lead by weakness and being afraid of what your opposition has to say. You lead by what is best for the American people and by what the American people have to say.

There is also one other HUGE element to Obama's changed position that democrats don't want to hear.
 
evince said:
what would you idiots be saying about the first black president deschedualing MJ as a top priority?

Yes it does matter because it distroys his ability to get traction on other issues.


I think hes waiting for new studies that he can lay on the table to explain why MJ is safe enough to deschedual
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Why am I an "idiot" because I'm presenting FACTUAL information about Obama?

Your response reminds me of your post about the morality of lesser evil .. which I seriously disagree with.

Why am I an idiot?
 
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