Salvation Army Wants White Donors to Offer “Sincere Apology” for Their Racism

Should we charge you with the care for Milquetoast Macaw (Into the Night)?
I think that he might respond well to baseball bat training.
At least that's what I'd try.

No thanks. He's on Perpetual Ignore(c).

I tried to engage with him at first, due to the scarlet macaw pic he had as an avatar. But all he can do is shout "liar!" and "fallacy!" So now all I see are pages and pages of "You are ignoring this worthless troll." :laugh:
 
That's Lesion's pet name for Phantasmal. He thinks that she gave me her mod password and that we can read your PMs to each other. :laugh: :rofl2: :laugh:

He's just trolling, which is what trolls do. As Grind has often stated:

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Yeh bullshit, Rana is a name that she used in the past.
 
That's Lesion's pet name for Phantasmal. He thinks that she gave me her mod password and that we can read your PMs to each other. :laugh: :rofl2: :laugh:

He's just trolling, which is what trolls do. As Grind has often stated:

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Grind and the other moderators have the ability to read PM’s addressed to them which could contain PM’s not addressed to them.

I rarely do PM’s for that reason.

Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives, lol.
 
Grind and the other moderators have the ability to read PM’s addressed to them which could contain PM’s not addressed to them. I rarely do PM’s for that reason. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives, lol.

Poor Grind.

RIP.
 
What flavor of parrot does she have?

Macaws (we have two) can live to be over 100 years old. Ours are all "used." They came from more-or-less okay homes, except for one of the macaws who was abused. They broke one of his wings, so it only extends out a few inches from his body. He can only walk, not fly. I help him "fly" by holding his feet, holding him out on my arm, and running around and around the house as fast as I can. He flaps and thinks it's great fun. He's been my buddy for over 23 years now.
Not sure about the parrot...I’ll find out.

One hundred years old...a centenarian parrot. Por Dios!
 
No thanks. He's on Perpetual Ignore(c).

I tried to engage with him at first, due to the scarlet macaw pic he had as an avatar. But all he can do is shout "liar!" and "fallacy!" So now all I see are pages and pages of "You are ignoring this worthless troll." :laugh:

Periodically, I empty my ignore list and start over from scratch. I find it doesn’t take long to start with the same assholes.
 
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John McWhorter is describing the likes of Dumber666 to a tee, they are all the same; sanctimonious, hectoring and odious.

The professor John McWhorter has problems with the way Americans are talking about race and racism.

McWhorter is a Black liberal. But he argues that the cultural left, along with major institutions and companies, have gone too far in embracing "anti-racist" ideas.

Much of it relates to the way two prominent writers about race have influenced public opinion about racism. Ibram X. Kendi's How to Be an Antiracist and Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility have both landed on bestseller lists since last summer, after widespread protests erupted over George Floyd's killing.

Both Kendi and DiAngelo have appeared on NPR and NPR has published articles that promote anti-racism.

McWhorter argues that certain strains of anti-racism and its adherents have effectively created a religion, and a zealous one, that stifles nuance and debate. His new book is called Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.

There are people "whose devotion is less to changing lives for people who need help than showing that they understand that racism and especially systemic racism exists," McWhorter tells Morning Edition.

"The idea is that you are to be fired" if you disagree or violate anti-racism's norms, in McWhorter's telling. "You are to be dismissed from polite society. You are to be sanctioned. You can't be among us. You're dirty."

McWhorter points to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art's chief curator, who resigned under pressure after an uproar involving his use of the words "reverse discrimination." In another case, he points to white food writer Alison Roman, who was suspended from her New York Times column after criticizing celebrities Chrissy Teigen, who is Asian American, and Marie Kondo, who is Asian.

Why is it that you assert that people who are pushing a particular kind of anti-racism are practicing something like a religion? Part of many religions is that at a certain point, you're supposed to suspend disbelief. At a certain point, you're supposed to stop using logic and you're just supposed to, for example, believe. You're just supposed to have faith. That is the way this new anti-racism goes in many cases. ...

This is a religion where instead of it being about your faith in Jesus, it's about showing that you know that racism exists above all else, including basic compassion. That's religious.

And then also, the way we talk about white privilege is eerily consonant with the way one talks about original sin. You have it from the beginning, it's a stain that you'll never get rid of. You're supposed to always think about it. It's there regardless of the condition of your life, and you're going to die with it. So white privilege becomes the original sin that you're supposed to live in a kind of atonement for.

Yes. It's funny, I'm grappling with this idea that the response to me is to say "he doesn't know systemic racism exists." I think part of it is that that's a very clumsy term. Yes, I know that those inequities exist. I think that those inequities must be battled. The issue is, what do you do to battle them? And I say, telling people not to be racist or thinking of those inequities as some abstract version of bigotry doesn't help people who need help.

Would you also argue to lower the penalty for racist speech? That essentially people should be a little more accepting of unacceptable language by other people and just be willing to debate them rather than push them off the stage.

I think that there's an extent to which any society is going to have taboos, and that taboos can be useful. But I also think that we are tending to take that sort of thing a little too far in the name of the idea that our job is to signal that we know racism exists.

And so, yeah, I kind of like the way it was about 20, maybe 15 years ago. But we've gotten to the point that we're so focused on what people say and how they say it that we're paying more attention to that than to the perhaps less glamorous work of getting out on the ground and trying to change society.

We have to think about, say, 50 years ago when people who felt very modern were doing civil rights activism in a real way. It would have looked very peculiar to them that we're so concerned with what things are called. There was a little of it, but not nearly as much as there is now. It's because, to an extent, policing language is easier. Civil rights activism is not glamorous in terms of what really creates change. ... I want to help people, and I'm very interested in policies that change Black lives. And I'm seeing a distraction from that.

Glenn Youngkin, the Republican who just won the governor's race in Virginia, made education and allegations of woke racism, as you would put it, part of his campaign. He sometimes quoted Martin Luther King on his side of the argument about equality, regardless of race. Do you think that Martin Luther King would be on your side of the argument?

I have no doubt that Martin Luther King would have understood what I'm saying in terms of helping people who actually need help. It's not an accident that at the end of his life, he was beginning to focus more on poverty in general than on the race question.

The idea is to help people who need help. The modern idea that microaggressions and how white people feel in their heart of hearts is what we should be thinking about to me is a detour. Frankly, the left has to get more honest about this sort of thing. If you want to say that Youngkin has exploited a certain kind of sentiment and maybe sometimes even racist sentiment, there's an argument there.

But for the left to say that there's nothing going on in schools that we need to talk about, that critical race theory isn't in the schools because nobody's teaching the papers of Richard Delgado and Kimberlé Crenshaw — that's a debate team feint. There is something going on in terms of how children are being taught in a lot of schools, and to pretend that it's not true, or to quietly think that that's the way it should be and so therefore we shouldn't talk about it as a new development: that doesn't work. There's a certain kind of maybe, regrettably, imperfect voter who is not fooled by that. And it's time for a more honest conversation.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052...-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race

Dumber666 is a Swilly aka Smug White Liberal, John McWhorter describes his like perfectly.
 
Grind and the other moderators have the ability to read PM’s addressed to them which could contain PM’s not addressed to them.

I rarely do PM’s for that reason.

Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives, lol.

No shit.

You're right about forwarded PMs. If you sent me a PM and I forwarded it to one of the mods, he/she could read it. But that's not what the claim is. Legion and a couple other of our more paranoid friends wrongly believe that the mods can go into our inboxes at any time and read the contents. Damo has stated several times that the forum's software does not have that functionality. Since he's the one who set this up and who owns and maintains it, I'm gonna go with that.
 
No shit.

You're right about forwarded PMs. If you sent me a PM and I forwarded it to one of the mods, he/she could read it. But that's not what the claim is. Legion and a couple other of our more paranoid friends wrongly believe that the mods can go into our inboxes at any time and read the contents. Damo has stated several times that the forum's software does not have that functionality. Since he's the one who set this up and who owns and maintains it, I'm gonna go with that.

Same. I have no reason to doubt them.
 
No shit.

You're right about forwarded PMs. If you sent me a PM and I forwarded it to one of the mods, he/she could read it. But that's not what the claim is. Legion and a couple other of our more paranoid friends wrongly believe that the mods can go into our inboxes at any time and read the contents. Damo has stated several times that the forum's software does not have that functionality. Since he's the one who set this up and who owns and maintains it, I'm gonna go with that.

I believe that Damo is an honest person. If I owned the server, I would not want the ability to read PM’s. Just not interested and I doubt that Damo is either.

It’s all mostly drama. I don’t post my threads for the members, most of us are too set in our ways to be changed by a thread. I post for the guests in hopes that honest and truthful threads will allow them to see the other side that most of the MSM censors.

I think you would agree that most of the media is far to the left and censors conservatives. Perhaps not.
 
I believe that Damo is an honest person. If I owned the server, I would not want the ability to read PM’s. Just not interested and I doubt that Damo is either.

It’s all mostly drama. I don’t post my threads for the members, most of us are too set in our ways to be changed by a thread. I post for the guests in hopes that honest and truthful threads will allow them to see the other side that most of the MSM censors.

I think you would agree that most of the media is far to the left and censors conservatives. Perhaps not.

Ah, so you're an evangelist! lol

No, I would not agree in the least to the claim that "most of the media is far to the left and censors conservatives." Here is one example why: I've seen several threads, although I have not read any of them, stating that the "liberal" media has somehow altered photos of the accused parade killer to make him look white. He is clearly a mixed race person. We watch NBC Nightly News on a daily basis. They have shown various photos of the accused killer. In some he appears to have darker skin than he does in others. The same is true of photos of two of my g-kids, who are also mixed. And the same is true of me as well, as a white person who has red undertones to her skin. Sometimes I look alabaster, sometimes I look like a ripe peach, and other times I look like a red-faced angry drunk, depending on the lighting. lol

So no, the claims of NBC or other "far left media" being super biased are false. I also don't believe that either the news media or social media deliberately silence conservatives any more than they do lefties. I personally know at least a dozen outspoken lefties who have had temp bans from social media for their posts. I got a 24 hour time out myself around election time last year.

If your goal is to entice visitors into joining in the conversation, you might consider using fewer alt-right sources. Gateway Pundit is a good example. When ppl see that, unless they are already totally simpatico, they just think you're pushing an agenda that they aren't interested in. The "Big Lie" is another example. We all know who really won in 2020, and so do you. Promoting the Big Lie just tarnishes your credibility.
 
No shit.

You're right about forwarded PMs. If you sent me a PM and I forwarded it to one of the mods, he/she could read it. But that's not what the claim is. Legion and a couple other of our more paranoid friends wrongly believe that the mods can go into our inboxes at any time and read the contents. Damo has stated several times that the forum's software does not have that functionality. Since he's the one who set this up and who owns and maintains it, I'm gonna go with that.

The PM rules are all fucked up on this forum. If someone sends me a message, whether it be a letter or electronically, it becomes my property to do as I wish. That is not the case on this forum.
 
No shit.

You're right about forwarded PMs. If you sent me a PM and I forwarded it to one of the mods, he/she could read it. But that's not what the claim is. Legion and a couple other of our more paranoid friends wrongly believe that the mods can go into our inboxes at any time and read the contents. Damo has stated several times that the forum's software does not have that functionality. Since he's the one who set this up and who owns and maintains it, I'm gonna go with that.

The controversy of such an act is the very reason that JPP exists at all.
 
He won’t do it on my threads anymore.

Dumber76 will be thread-banned in the future.

Sad little cunt can’t come to grips with the truth.

Want to go over the fact again, bitch, that judges set bail, not DAs?

Naw, I thought not.

Fucking loser.
 
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Illiterate fuck can’t comprehend simple English and he thinks he can absorb what the SA document contains. Just fucking priceless!

That lesson plan was intended for idiots just EXACTLY like you. Ignorant, racist and in denial.

REPENT, MOTHERFUCKER.

The fact that I've reduced you to cursing, name-calling, side-stepping the issue and obfuscating pretty much proves I've won the argument.

Point:

The SA is trying to tell white people they should stop engaging in something which there is not even a universally agreed upon standard for what constitutes it, while assuming that white people are the only segment of society who engages in it and asking us to apololgize for engaging in it, despite the fact that society as a whole has been bending over backwards and apologizing to the supposedly aggrieved segment of society for the past four or five decades.

Certainly there are some virulent white racists running around. But people like The SA leadership who dreamed up this ill-concieved silliness, and people like you who willingly and unquestioningly subscribe to it, seem to want to ignore or just not mention or even acknowldge the fact that a lot of blacks and other non-whites also have some very racist attitudes.

A little bit of racism is something that is built into the human psyche. It's only logical and natural that humans tend to adhere to and identify with their own kind, while having a tendency to be suspicious of and keep other groups at arm's length.

Actual, identifiable white racism means actively hating all members of another ethnicity with no consideration of the notion that there are good and bad people within ALL ethnic groups.

YOU are or come across as a racist because you seem to feel that all whites who don't bow to the same "woke" political correctness fallacy that you do are automatically racist, that all black people are innocent victims of white people and that there is no such thing as a black or brown racist.

I think it's hilarious that I've got you foaming at the mouth and beating your empty little head against the wall in frustration because I refuse to buy the bullshit false narrative you're so desperate to push just because it makes you feel better about yourself and superior to others.

People like you always need to make yourselves feel superior in order to compensate for the overwhelming feelings of inferiority and inadequacy that have haunted, hindered, oppressed and depressed you your entire lives.

Loser.

Now go ahead and respond as you have throughout this thread.... by angry insult hurling and name-calling like the spoiled, tempermental little infant that you are.
 
. It doesn’t say you have to apologize to a black person. Or even apologize for something you’ve done.

not sure where you learned English but it literally says it is necessary to apologize........

sincere repentance and apologies are necessary

and if we aren't apologizing to black people who are we supposed to apologize to?.......demmycrats?......
 
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