Same-sex couples begin marrying

Nothing above is relevant to the issue.

S T R A W M E N ..... Those lacking a reasonable agreement , create straw-men....

to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition
by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition
(the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually
refuted the original position

WTF? What kind of reasonable agreement to your bitch ass "I have a sudden urge to puke" post were you looking for?

Fundamentalist Christianity is diametrically opposed to gay marriage, in fact it'll lobby on the behalf of keeping gays from getting married so my "Christianity loses again" post isn't misrepresenting anything at all little fella...

Always the victim, never the bride bravo...you're gonna have to do better.
 
I have a sudden urge to puke.


So the whiner who wrote the insightful, well thought out response above...


Nothing above is relevant to the issue.

S T R A W M E N ..... Those lacking a reasonable agreement , create straw-men....

to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition
by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition
(the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually
refuted the original position


Now wants to whine about someone else resorting to a supposed "straw man"?
 
Yeah all those unwanted pregnancies and abortions arising from gay marriage.

wow I didn't mention abortions or pregnancy stick to the topic of their health

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1
Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle

The current media portrayal of gay and lesbian relationships is that they are as healthy, stable and loving as heterosexual marriages — or even more so.1 Medical associations are promoting somewhat similar messages.2 Sexual relationships between members of the same sex, however, expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span. There are five major distinctions between gay and heterosexual relationships, with specific medical consequences. They are:

Levels of Promiscuity read more

Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.

Physical Health read more

Male Homosexual Behavior
Female Homosexual Behavior

Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.

Mental Health read more

It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.

Life Span read more

The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

Monogamy read more

Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.

In Summary
It is clear that there are serious medical consequences to same-sex behavior. Identification with a GLB community appears to lead to an increase in promiscuity, which in turn leads to a myriad of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and even early death. Youth should be warned of the undeniable health risks associated with a homosexual lifestyle.
 
Popular mainstreem Christianity is not opposed to Homosexual marriage, infact most mainstreem churches are embrasing it and sanctioning it and performing the ceramonies.
 
Popular mainstreem Christianity is not opposed to Homosexual marriage, infact most mainstreem churches are embrasing it and sanctioning it and performing the ceramonies.

Somewhat, the Episcopalians fit that mold just fine...so too does quite a few Protestant churches and most of the Lutherans, can't say the same for Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, those 7th Day quacks, Jehovah's Witnesses, Methodists, or Pentecostals though.

Basically there're more Christian denominations that'll denounce or advocate against same sex marriage than there are those that'll embrace, sanction, or perform ceremonies.

Which isn't so much a problem, they're free to believe whatever they want - it's when they'll dictate or impose to oppress others by way of demanding legislation be written in their favor that their beliefs get in the way of societal norms.
 
Somewhat, the Episcopalians fit that mold just fine...so too does quite a few Protestant churches and most of the Lutherans, can't say the same for Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, those 7th Day quacks, Jehovah's Witnesses, Methodists, or Pentecostals though.

Basically there're more Christian denominations that'll denounce or advocate against same sex marriage than there are those that'll embrace, sanction, or perform ceremonies.

Which isn't so much a problem, they're free to believe whatever they want - it's when they'll dictate or impose to oppress others by way of demanding legislation be written in their favor that their beliefs get in the way of societal norms.

It isn't so much of a problem, they're free to have sex with whomever they want - it's when they dictate or impose on others by way of demanding legislation to
be written in their favor that their sex lives get in the way of societal norms......

Kinda narrow minded to see everything from only your perspective......the clock goes tick-tock, not tick-tick or tock-tock.....
 
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wow I didn't mention abortions or pregnancy stick to the topic of their health

US citizen has his 'strawman' crap in full swing.....

Does he really think we don't know see his desire to put forth the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position....
 
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WTF? What kind of reasonable agreement to your bitch ass "I have a sudden urge to puke" post were you looking for?

Fundamentalist Christianity is diametrically opposed to gay marriage, in fact it'll lobby on the behalf of keeping gays from getting married so my "Christianity loses again" post isn't misrepresenting anything at all little fella...

Always the victim, never the bride bravo...you're gonna have to do better.

Coming across as an asshole won't win you a debate with me sonny.....

70 to 80% of African Americans are also opposed to same sex marriage..probably all of them would claim to be Christians.....whats your point ?
Bill Clinton was opposed to same sex marriage.....Obama was opposed to same sex marriage....DOMA passed the full congress with hundreds of yes votes.....
same sex marriage was even voted down in California....more than 20 states have laws against same sex marriage....

so lets cut the bullshit about it only "Fundamentalist Christianity" being against it....they are a small minority of the population....
 
70 to 80% of African Americans are also opposed to same sex marriage..probably all of them would claim to be Christians...

Oh...goodness!

Your ignorance is showing!

Same-sex marriage opponents counted black voters among their allies leading up to November’s election, expecting them to help overturn legislation allowing same-sex couples to marry in Maryland.

Polls in the months before November’s referendum on same-sex marriage seemed to back them up, with black residents showing less support than whites. But as the months wore on, opposition softened, especially in the face of endorsements from President Obama and prominent entertainers, as well as a media campaign that included clergy, athletes and other public figures.

By Election Day, voters in the state’s large, predominantly black jurisdictions — Baltimore and Prince George’s County — joined to support same-sex marriage by a 4-percentage-point margin. In Baltimore, same-sex marriage got 57 percent of the vote. In Prince George’s, where opposition was expected to be very strong, it got 49 percent of the vote.

That's from the Washington Times, far from a left wing rag, huh?

People change, so should you. Educate yourself.
 
Coming across as an asshole won't win you a debate with me sonny.....

Are you decrepit? It's funnier if you are is all...

70 to 80% of African Americans are also opposed to same sex marriage..probably all of them would claim to be Christians

Who cares? I certainly don't nor does it mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things for or against same sex marriage - it's the same as saying 70 to 80% of Navajo Indians are in favor of same sex marriage...neither hold more or less sway - you should work more on the logic end of your postings.

.....whats your point ?

That you don't know what a Strawman is for starters.

Bill Clinton was opposed to same sex marriage.....Obama was opposed to same sex marriage....

Sure he was, because he was a politician...now that he's not running for office, he isn't.

DOMA passed the full congress with hundreds of yes votes.....

Yet, the gay fellas are still getting married in Washington in spite of all those yes votes.

same sex marriage was even voted down in California....more than 20 states have laws against same sex marriage....

Incidentally, it's because of that California vote that'll probably take it out of the state's hands once it reaches the steps of the Supreme Court, the same way the Supreme Court had to step in and make a decision on interracial marriage back in the day.

so lets cut the bullshit about it only "Fundamentalist Christianity" being against it....they are a small minority of the population....

Oh no, it's more than just homophobes and fundamentalists, most Christian denominations are against same sex marriage...fairy tales and fables, you can't make this kind of stupid shit up.
 
i am not surprised you are intimately aware of this knowledge

It's in the title of the thread crackie (which really isn't all that intimate)....which means you're gonna have to keep that posting on other poster's jocks shit to yourself from now on unless you're gonna leave Cali and move to Washington.
 
Oh...goodness!

Your ignorance is showing!

Same-sex marriage opponents counted black voters among their allies leading up to November’s election, expecting them to help overturn legislation allowing same-sex couples to marry in Maryland.

That's from the Washington Times, far from a left wing rag, huh?
People change, so should you. Educate yourself.


Obama, flip flopping on this issue is the reason and mis-characterizes the conclusions.....given their affinity for President Obama — 93 percent of African Americans and 71 percent of Latinos voted for the president — it’s not unreasonable to think that his support had an impact.

Not surprising in the least....voting for Obama and voting for Democrats is not quite the same as voting on the issue alone.....I'm sure if the Obama didn't change his mind
in order to win re-election, they would still have voted the same way they did......

Personally, I don't give a rats ass what people do in private....and I'm perfectly in support of "civil unions"....its not marriage,.... and changing the definition to fit
a totally different lifestyle is what I differ with.....it is what it is....
 
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