No, it should not.
Same-sex couples begin marrying
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No, it should not.
Auster
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Are we reading the same thing here? Are you serious? At what point in this thread did I mention homosexuality was a detriment. In fact, I haven't said a single negative word about it. My feeings have no place in a sound debate. Neither should yours.
I was going to edit my previous post. The word society is a bit wrong, because in practice our society is very shaped by emotions. Its in reality that feelings have limited bearing. They are subjective. But that isnt even what you claim.
Now, I offered a very valid response to an inquiry you presented. My logic is there, my feelings are not. Please retort or indeed this is done. You've not shown me even how your own 'feelings' eliminated your choice of orientation.
I was going to edit my previous post. The word society is a bit wrong, because in practice our society is very shaped by emotions. Its in reality that feelings have limited bearing. They are subjective. But that isnt even what you claim.
Now, I offered a very valid response to an inquiry you presented. My logic is there, my feelings are not. Please retort or indeed this is done. You've not shown me even how your own 'feelings' eliminated your choice of orientation.
Auster
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This is all emotion. This is you saying, "I didn't feel attracted to them, so I must not be". Your 'not being wired' is an indication of your psych, your emotions.
EDIT: to further iterate, anyone who is familiar with this concept of gays baiting straight people into gay activities can argue it physically feels the same. The body doesn't know orientation. It doesn't know attraction or emotion itself, but responds to it in kind.
No, it is biological, chemical. The biological functions lead to the emotional ones, or at least in my case. My girlfriend, always an attraction to women, her environment told her she was wrong, so she tried to conform and married. She was miserable, divorced her husband and has now been with her same sex partner for 15 years.
My mistake, the way you worded your thoughts was confusing.
Auster
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Emotions are learned chemical responses to external stimuli. Everyday we come closer to identifying the exact process of it.
Maybe it is that way with guys, the penis responds to any stimulation, but not so with myself.
Yeah, they are and the emotion I feel staring at a women's genital do not create sexual urges in myself and never have and most likely never will.
DamnYankee
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You ax'd me for a reason and I gave it to you. Queers are less stable. Even you admit that.
Auster
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While the female mind is physically connected different than a man's, I don't know if this extends to gential sensation . . .
I'm sure one could find 'lesbian bait' that states to the contrary.No need to dreg that nonsense, however. This states that the female genitalia is actually more sensitive. I hear women use all sorts of objects to induce pleasure. I'm sure they don't feel attracted to those objects.
Independent
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I consider myself a conservative. I consider myself even moreso a Libertarian.
Canceled.2014.1
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Emotions are a key point in this argument. Anyone can derive pleasure from the stimulation of nerve endings. It is the question of who we are attracted to that determines our sexual orientation.
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I did? When did I do that?
Yes, you did offer an answer. Unfortunately it was not an answer to the question I ax'd you.
DamnYankee
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You admitted it in post 274.
My answer was to your question; you just don't like my answer. To that I say "eat shit queer lover".
My answer was to your question; you just don't like my answer. To that I say "eat shit queer lover".
Canceled.2014.1
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"Oh, so a higher number of unstable individuals means the entire group is unstable?" is an admission of nothing. It was a question. I was asking about your reasoning.
No, I asked what straight couples offer society that gay couples do not. Given the number of divorces and rates of domestic violence, stability is certainly not the answer.
Stability is not used as any measure of whether straight couples marry. Also, your previous claims about the unstable nature of gay men completely ignores gay women. And yet you will not let them marry either.
No, you did not answer the question. But its nice to see that you still resort to insults when you are losing an argument.
Auster
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I disagree. I think it is the behavior that defines homosexuality, not any baseline attraction to one gender or another. I suppose this is the difference we are arguing. . .
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By that definition, someone who remains celibate is neither heterosexual nor homosexual?
Quite the contrary, I believe that who we are attracted to and who we fall in love with defines our sexual orientations. A lesbian may have sex with, marry, and live her entire life with a man in an attempt to fit in with what society tells her is normal. But all along she is attracted to women, feels a romantic and emotional pull towards women, whether she acts on it or not.
USFREEDOM911
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I see you're working real hard on getting banned, again.
Auster
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A celibate person would have no use for a sexual definition. Not a mistake religious celibates were often eunuchs.
A woman who has longings for other women (or even one woman) but never acts upon it (i.e. meets whatever criteria society sets for the definition to apply to her) should be seen as straight , imo, though perhaps with a curiosity or lingering doubts. We have no knowledge whether its attraction on the basal level or mere 'what if' curiosity.
For instance, when I first started driving I learned the stick. It was hard and I only had 2 weeks to do it (if I wanted to keep my job and lifestyle). While driving I often had the realization the yellow lines weren't barriers and I was tempted to crash my car head-on into another 'for the sake of seeing its effects'. Was I
Bad example, even in my head. What about (and I'm not trying to inflame anyone. I just read the 'The Dude' thread and above) a pedophile? What about a man with an attraction to, let's say 13yr old girls. Historically girls got married that young to guys as old and older than 30. Today females mature faster than back then. Is this man a pedophile if he finds them titillating, but doesn't act?
Or the man who wants to cheat on his wife with another but doesn't and chronically longs for it, is that cheating? Not in my eyes at least, although he's certainly flirting with the line a bit.
I see the appeal of the arguement, but ultimately we need a clear line drawn somewhere, and I think behavior is that line.
Auster
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Tasteless, guy. Also perhaps a bit too creative? Maybe some personal experience in that?