Based Chad
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So you DO understand why foreign corporations shouldn't have the right to unlimited propaganda expenditures.
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So you DO understand why foreign corporations shouldn't have the right to unlimited propaganda expenditures.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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I've already gone on record a long time ago... I don't think our Constitution applies to NON-US CITIZENS! Likewise, it shouldn't apply to NON-US Corporations! BUT..... That means the terrorists being held at Gitmo, need to stay in Gitmo and be given a military tribunal, and not a criminal trial in US Courts, with protections of the US Constitution behind them. It also means the illegal immigrants in California and New Mexico, aren't entitled to public services paid for by the taxpayers.
Based Chad
Was it me?
But you obviously do see why corporations with a speck of foreign ownership shouldn't be given rights to unlimited political expenditures to miseducate our people on the important issues.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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...AND...
If we are going to prohibit corporations with "one iota" of foreign money to participate in political discourse, we should also prohibit organizations and unions with "one iota" of foreign money behind them from participating in the same political discourse. That means, goodbye George Soros and MoveOn.org!
If we are going to prohibit corporations with "one iota" of foreign money to participate in political discourse, we should also prohibit organizations and unions with "one iota" of foreign money behind them from participating in the same political discourse. That means, goodbye George Soros and MoveOn.org!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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I don't see why you continue to blindly assume there is no other foreign backed political speech! George Soros, A HUNGARIAN, has donated a large chunk of his wealth to propagandize SOCIALISTS into power! Why are you not EQUALLY outraged by that?
Based Chad
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I didn't say there was no other foreign backed political speech. It should be disallowed as well.
Adam Weinberg
Goldwater Republican
We'll have to disagree here. Ron Paul finished ahead of more than half of the people who stood for the nomination in votes, in money he was well ahead of most, and if you look at the less tangible results after the election, he has finished well ahead of any of them in his national stature.
It was an incredibly successful campaign that created a new grassroots movement, not only set the stage for the tea party movement, but an entire rethinking within the Republican Party.
He is the only candidate from the Republican primary with maybe the exception of Mitt Romney who still retains as strong of a national following and has in fact built upon it since then.
His Campaign for Liberty and Young Americans for Liberty were born out of that campaign and are doing an awesome job promoting his legislation and training young people to follow in his footsteps. As I said, he is now a staple on cable news programs for his insights, when before and during the campaign, he couldn't even get equal time in the debates...in which the viewers regularly acknowledged him as the winner as you may recall.
Adam Weinberg
Goldwater Republican
No, just busy. I'll answer your serious question later.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Well, at least that is a consistent view. But now you do realize, we can't disallow one thing while continuing to allow another thing even though we don't like it. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face, and it's generally thought to be a bad move. If you were here advocating that we eliminate ALL foreign financial influence in EVERY area of American politics, I could support that... I could get behind THAT initiative! But that's not your argument, you want to stifle corporate foreigners while allowing socialist foreigners to continue business as usual, because you can't change that, and I can't support that approach. It either has to be one way or the other, completely and totally, and if it's not, then it isn't FAIR, or anything resembling FAIR!
Soros is am American...!
Adam Weinberg
Goldwater Republican
And to be fair to George Soros, he legitimately did use his vast wealth to fight the real commies.
I don't know why more conservatives don't mention that to his credit.
I don't know why more conservatives don't mention that to his credit.
Based Chad
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I am.
It IS my argument.
No I don't.
Yes we can.
Classic false dichotomy logical fallacy.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You can disagree if you like, I didn't intend what I said to be an insult to you or Paul. The point is, he is the most brilliant person running, yet where did he finish? Certainly not where he deserved to finish, yes or no? Has he been "vindicated" if he is still not winning the nomination or the presidency? I think it is an insult to assume the best he deserves is 3rd place in his party's primaries, and that is "vindication" of his ideas. It simply isn't because his ideas deserve so much more consideration than they have received, or probably ever will receive. I hope I clarified that, I know it sounded bad when I posted it, and I meant it as a compliment to Paul, not an insult to you.
Success would have been winning the White House! THEN he would have been totally vindicated! As it stands, he hasn't been vindicated, and the media perceptions of him being a "fringe candidate" are still alive and well.
Uhm.... Sarah Palin? Hello?
His Campaign for Liberty and Young Americans for Liberty were born out of that campaign and are doing an awesome job promoting his legislation and training young people to follow in his footsteps. As I said, he is now a staple on cable news programs for his insights, when before and during the campaign, he couldn't even get equal time in the debates...in which the viewers regularly acknowledged him as the winner as you may recall.
I could say the EXACT same things about RALPH NADER!
He lived through Natzi and Communist occupations and learded to fight conservatism and support liberalism!
Based Chad
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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And for that reason alone, we should allow the Constitutional right to free speech to apply to HIM, but not OTHER foreigners, right?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Adam.... Would you vote for, and actively support, a PAUL/PALIN ticket for the Republicans in 2012?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Does all of his money and wealth come from America? Isn't he a "dual" citizen? Doesn't he OWN foreign corporations? I think he qualifies under the "one iota" provisions outlined for corporations, so.... buh bye!