Sea level is already guaranteed to rise by 5 feet, climate scientist says

[Micawber]

Wrong it is guaranteed to rise 40' at least!!!!



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OK

 

[Grokmaster]

THE SEAS WILL RISE 5 FEET...IN ABOUT 500 YEARS.....AS IF....

 

[Into the Night]

It's 0.14" not 0.014", just out by a factor of 10.

You are making shit up. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

 

[Into the Night]

It should be noted only the western Antarctic peninsula is warming due primarily to glacio-volcanism, the rest of the continent has been cooling for decades.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of Antarctica.

 

[Into the Night]

Possible solutions to the rising of sea levels is as follows:

What rising sea levels?

Solution: Building Seawalls

People already build seawalls.

One solution that cities employ to decrease flooding from tides and storms is constructing seawalls.

People already build seawalls.

These barriers are often built to a height of five to six feet above sea level and cost approximately $600 to $2,000 per linear foot. When seawalls age or become damaged from constant exposure to saltwater or the impact of waves, they need to be replaced. They also need to be replaced or built higher as sea levels continue to rise.

What rise?

Where it’s in use:
New York City is building a $335 million flood protection system in Manhattan through the Rebuild by Design project, which was implemented after the city suffered $19 billion in damages from Hurricane Sandy.
Time to execute: 4–5 years
Solution: Using Beaches As Barriers
Similar to seawalls, beaches and dunes can act as a natural wall and reduce the impact of storm surge. The bigger the beach or larger the dune, the more water can be stopped from reaching homes and roads. Towns can add sand to make beaches bigger or to prevent them from eroding. Using this type of natural infrastructure can protect against flooding while maintaining beaches for the community to enjoy.

Where it’s in use:
With the help of the Army Corps of Engineers, Norfolk accomplished a $34.5 million project to engineer a beach at Ocean View that will reduce flooding."

https://medium.com/firststreet/solving-for-sea-level-rise-b95600751525

What sea level rise?

Also as a personal opinion, desalination at using rising sea water for irrigation purposes for agriculture reasons. There are many dry areas that can use the moisture.

Desalination requires a lot of power. Where are you going to get the energy to run such plants on such a large scale?

 

[Into the Night]

Hello signalmankenneth,



Well I hope nobody here enjoyed going to the beach.

Ever.

They will all be covered up.

Gone.

Poof!

Underwater.

Maybe some will move inshore, but the dunes which used to be there will be destroyed. If there were homes and parks and so forth, those will be destroyed.

It's not going to be pretty.

I would not blame any young person who decided to simply not have any children.

I would not want to be freshly born into this world and then find out how screwed up it is.

Nobody can blame Greta for being pissed.

Paranoia. Church of Global Warming chanting.

 

[Into the Night]

You're the style of self-made moron that thinks a ' rise in sea-level ' means and even rise all around the world.


Haw, haw, haw, haw, haw.....................................haw, haw..........................haw.

Try learning English, dope.

 

[Into the Night]

The SUN, OBVIOUSLY. OR VOLCANIC ACTIVITY...

Assuming the Sun maintains the same output, what is causing the temperature to rise? That requires ADDITIONAL energy.

In other words, there is nothing that would cause the temperature to rise.

 

[cancel2 2022]

You are making shit up. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Yeh it is, just because you don't understand means didly squat. Anyway we are talking about sea level rise not temperature. NASA are launching a satellite named JASON-CS-A in 2026 which will measure sea level, using radar altimeters, even more accurately.

 

[moon]

Into the Night Soil

You can't create energy out of nothing.

So where did it come from ?

 

[Into the Night]

Yeh it is, just because you don't understand means didly squat. Anyway we are talking about sea level rise not temperature. NASA are launching a satellite named JASON-CS-A in 2026 which will measure sea level, using radar altimeters, even more accurately.

It is not possible to measure the global sea level. No valid reference point. It is YOU that does not understand. No Magick Satellite can measure the global sea level.

 

[cancel2 2022]

It is not possible to measure the global sea level. No valid reference point. It is YOU that does not understand. No Magick Satellite can measure the global sea level.

Yeh they can and do all the time, not my fault that you can't understand how it's done.

Satellite Altimeters
A more detailed version of the introductory material here is available at ESA’s radar altimeter tutorial.

Introduction

Use of satellite radar altimeters to measure global sea surface height (SSH) has come a long way since the brief Seasat mission of 1978. Early missions measured SSH with an accuracy of tens of metres. More recent high quality satellite altimeter missions such as TOPEX/Poseidon (launched August 1992) and Jason-1 (launched December 2001) measure SSH to an accuracy of a few centimetres. These satellites were specifically designed to measure SSH to the highest possible accuracy.

The essential parts of a satellite altimeter measuring system are:

A satellite in an orbit which repeats the same ground track very closely (within about 1 kilometre)
A radar system to measure the distance from the satellite to the sea surface to high accuracy.

TOPEX/Poseidon and Jason-1 use two radar frequencies, Ku band (13.6GHz) and C band (5.3Ghz).
A tracking system capable of locating the satellite vertically at any time to within a few centimetres.
Some of the components of such a system are:
•Systems to locate the satellite, which are usually a combination of GPS, SLR (Satellite Laser Ranging), and the French DORIS system

•A high quality gravity model
•A model of the drag from solar wind and the atmosphere
•Suitable software to combine all of the above
•Other corrections to correct the range:
•On the satellite:
•A water vapour radiometer to measure the amount of water vapour between the satellite and the sea surface (the water vapour slows down the radar pulse, causing the raw measurement to be too long)
•Measurement of the range at two frequencies to estimate the “ionospheric correction” – that is, the degree to which the radar pulse is slowed down by free electrons in the ionosphere
•The troughs of waves contribute more to the radar reflection than the crests, so we need a correction for this. This is estimated from the wind speed and the wave height, both of which can be estimated from the characteristics of the returned radar pulse.

On the ground:
•Ocean tide models to convert the raw altimeter measurement to the “detided” SSH
•Estimates (from a model) of the atmospheric pressure. This is used to calculate a correction to the radar range to compensate for the fact that the atmosphere slows down the radar pulse
•A correction is made for the “inverse barometer” effect, where sea level is depressed in areas of high atmospheric pressure, and vice versa.

The picture below illustrates some of this.

https://research.csiro.au/slrwavescoast/sea-level/measurements-and-data/sea-level-measurements/

 

[moon]

Into the Night Soil

Ol' Night Soil is a simple parrot, incapable of investigation and evaluation.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeh they can and do all the time, not my fault that you can't understand how it's done.

Nope. Not possible. No valid reference point.

Satellite Altimeters
A more detailed version of the introductory material here is available at ESA’s radar altimeter tutorial.

Introduction

Use of satellite radar altimeters to measure global sea surface height (SSH) has come a long way since the brief Seasat mission of 1978. Early missions measured SSH with an accuracy of tens of metres. More recent high quality satellite altimeter missions such as TOPEX/Poseidon (launched August 1992) and Jason-1 (launched December 2001) measure SSH to an accuracy of a few centimetres. These satellites were specifically designed to measure SSH to the highest possible accuracy.

The essential parts of a satellite altimeter measuring system are:

A satellite in an orbit which repeats the same ground track very closely (within about 1 kilometre)
A radar system to measure the distance from the satellite to the sea surface to high accuracy.

TOPEX/Poseidon and Jason-1 use two radar frequencies, Ku band (13.6GHz) and C band (5.3Ghz).
A tracking system capable of locating the satellite vertically at any time to within a few centimetres.
Some of the components of such a system are:
•Systems to locate the satellite, which are usually a combination of GPS, SLR (Satellite Laser Ranging), and the French DORIS system

•A high quality gravity model
•A model of the drag from solar wind and the atmosphere
•Suitable software to combine all of the above
•Other corrections to correct the range:
•On the satellite:
•A water vapour radiometer to measure the amount of water vapour between the satellite and the sea surface (the water vapour slows down the radar pulse, causing the raw measurement to be too long)
•Measurement of the range at two frequencies to estimate the “ionospheric correction” – that is, the degree to which the radar pulse is slowed down by free electrons in the ionosphere
•The troughs of waves contribute more to the radar reflection than the crests, so we need a correction for this. This is estimated from the wind speed and the wave height, both of which can be estimated from the characteristics of the returned radar pulse.

On the ground:
•Ocean tide models to convert the raw altimeter measurement to the “detided” SSH
•Estimates (from a model) of the atmospheric pressure. This is used to calculate a correction to the radar range to compensate for the fact that the atmosphere slows down the radar pulse
•A correction is made for the “inverse barometer” effect, where sea level is depressed in areas of high atmospheric pressure, and vice versa.

The picture below illustrates some of this.

https://research.csiro.au/slrwavescoast/sea-level/measurements-and-data/sea-level-measurements/

Nope. The reference point shown here is a land station, which moves with the land. Not a valid reference point. Satellites themselves don't really know how high they are (or even how fast they are moving at any particular moment in time).
This is why your altitude information from GPS at the surface is only good to +- 100 ft.

BTW, GPS satellites ALSO reference the same ground station, which moves with the land.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Nope. Not possible. No valid reference point.

Nope. The reference point shown here is a land station, which moves with the land. Not a valid reference point. Satellites themselves don't really know how high they are (or even how fast they are moving at any particular moment in time).
This is why your altitude information from GPS at the surface is only good to +- 100 ft.

BTW, GPS satellites ALSO reference the same ground station, which moves with the land.

Sorry just can't take you seriously.

 

[Into the Night]

Sorry just can't take you seriously.

Because you don't think land moves.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Because you don't think land moves.

So you think that hasn't been taken into account?

Use of satellite radar altimeters to measure global sea surface height (SSH) has come a long way since the brief Seasat mission of 1978. Early missions measured SSH with an accuracy of tens of metres. More recent high quality satellite altimeter missions such as TOPEX/Poseidon (launched August 1992) and Jason-1 (launched December 2001) measure SSH to an accuracy of a few centimetres. These satellites were specifically designed to measure SSH to the highest possible accuracy.

Referenced to the centre of mass of the Earth (via a reference surface such as a reference ellipsoid). One effect of this is that, as the shape of the ocean basins is changing slowly with time, a correction needs to be made to the altimeter data for this. Do yourself a favour and read up on this.

http://www.altimetry.info/radar-altimetry-tutorial/

 

[Into the Night]

So you think that hasn't been taken into account?

Absolutely. It has not been taken into account. It's not possible to.

Use of satellite radar altimeters to measure global sea surface height (SSH) has come a long way since the brief Seasat mission of 1978. Early missions measured SSH with an accuracy of tens of metres. More recent high quality satellite altimeter missions such as TOPEX/Poseidon (launched August 1992) and Jason-1 (launched December 2001) measure SSH to an accuracy of a few centimetres. These satellites were specifically designed to measure SSH to the highest possible accuracy.

Referenced to the centre of mass of the Earth (via a reference surface such as a reference ellipsoid). One effect of this is that, as the shape of the ocean basins is changing slowly with time, a correction needs to be made to the altimeter data for this. Do yourself a favour and read up on this.

http://www.altimetry.info/radar-altimetry-tutorial/

False authority fallacy. Base rate fallacy.
Math error: attempted absolute with no reference point.

There is nothing magick about any satellite. Your reference point is invalid. Land moves. It is not possible to measure a global sea level. The center of the Earth is not a reference point for sea level. The 'reference ellipsoid' is a buzzword. The reference point of the satellite is a ground station. It moves.

Apparently you deny tectonic plate theory, among other things such as tides.

 

[redfish]

[FONT=&]Based on the amount of greenhouse gases humans have already added to the Earth’s atmosphere, the world is guaranteed to experience approximately 5 feet of sea level rise in the coming decades, climate scientist Benjamin Strauss told “[/FONT]The Climate Crisis Podcast[FONT=&].”

[/FONT][FONT=&]“It’s in that range, you know, 5 feet plus or minus. And that’s because we’ve already warmed the planet by around 2 degrees Fahrenheit, 1.1 Celsius,” Strauss, the president and CEO of Climate Central, a nonprofit that tries to educate policymakers and the public about the threats posed by climate change, told Yahoo News. “Think of it this way: If I dumped a truckload of ice in the middle of Phoenix, we’d all know it’s going to melt. But it takes time to melt.

And the same thing is true for the big ice sheets on Greenland and Antarctica and glaciers around the world. We turned up the thermostat. We’ve already heated the planet by a couple degrees, but they’ve only begun to respond by melting. And that’s why we have all this extra sea level in the pipeline and it’s, it’s enough, I’m afraid to say, it’s hard to imagine the long-term future of South Florida, let’s say, right, with the sea level that’s already in the pipeline.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sea-leve...-5-feet-climate-scientist-says-090020184.html

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how stupid can you get? your prophet algore the great said that florida would be under water by now and all of the polar ice would be gone-------neither happened or will happen in the next million years.