Sea level is already guaranteed to rise by 5 feet, climate scientist says

PoliTalker said:
We are all going to pay for our irresponsibility and for letting anti-climate-science deniers infect critical thinking.

What's better?

Let billionaires do the billionaire thing?

Or have a livable world for 7 billion people.

Seems like a simple choice.

The Trump Party just gets so confused!
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Yet another Doom and Gloom predicted by the Church of Global Warming.

Meh.
 
BartenderElite said:
Or if they're off by a few years.

It's not speculation anymore. The warning signs are everywhere. No one cares.

As a species, we're really not programmed to be motivated to fix something until it's a massive crisis. For something easily fixable, that's not necessarily a disaster. But the climate isn't easily fixable.
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What 'warning sign'? Define these 'warning signs'.
 
signalmankenneth said:
Based on the amount of greenhouse gases humans have already added to the Earth’s atmosphere, the world is guaranteed to experience approximately 5 feet of sea level rise in the coming decades, climate scientist Benjamin Strauss told “The Climate Crisis Podcast.”

“It’s in that range, you know, 5 feet plus or minus. And that’s because we’ve already warmed the planet by around 2 degrees Fahrenheit, 1.1 Celsius,” Strauss, the president and CEO of Climate Central, a nonprofit that tries to educate policymakers and the public about the threats posed by climate change, told Yahoo News. “Think of it this way: If I dumped a truckload of ice in the middle of Phoenix, we’d all know it’s going to melt. But it takes time to melt.

And the same thing is true for the big ice sheets on Greenland and Antarctica and glaciers around the world. We turned up the thermostat. We’ve already heated the planet by a couple degrees, but they’ve only begun to respond by melting. And that’s why we have all this extra sea level in the pipeline and it’s, it’s enough, I’m afraid to say, it’s hard to imagine the long-term future of South Florida, let’s say, right, with the sea level that’s already in the pipeline.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sea-leve...-5-feet-climate-scientist-says-090020184.html
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<yawn> Lemme know when it it happens, k?

They said it would by 2012, what's up?
 
BartenderElite said:
The fact is that sea levels have been rising, and they have seen an acceleration of that in the last 2 decades.
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Not a fact. Random numbers. It is not possible to measure the global sea level. No valid reference point.
BartenderElite said:
That actually is a fact. It's the truth.
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Learn what 'fact' means. It does NOT mean 'proof' nor 'Universal Truth'.
BartenderElite said:
That "debate" is actually done.
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Assumption of victory fallacy.
BartenderElite said:
Most conservatives acknowledge that -
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Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you.
BartenderElite said:
but the crux of the new debate is whether or not man is partially responsible for the trend.
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What 'trend'. Baserate fallacy. It is not possible to measure the global sea level.
 
PoliTalker said:
Somebody is guaranteed to get hung up on semantics and totally miss the point.

It doesn't matter if it is precisely 5'.

Anything close is devastating.

What does it matter where the deck chairs are if the Titanic is sinking?
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What is 'devastating'? It is not possible to measure the global sea level. There is no valid reference point.
 
Primavera said:
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Meanwhile in the real world, the Antarctic has been cooling for the past 40 years. Have you got a cartoon for that Kenny?


Antarctica has cooled – not warmed up – over the last 40 years
08/23/2021 / By Mary Villareal

As a whole, the Antarctic has cooled by about 2 degrees Celsius in the same 40-year period (1979 to 2018) that carbon dioxide rose from 337 to 410 parts per million – meaning that the world is actually getting colder, not hotter.

A paper published in the journal Atmosphere noted that the trends from ERA5 are consistent with these observations, showing that there is a cooling trend in East and West Antarctica, while a warming trend comes from the Antarctic Peninsula.

According to graphical illustrations of the surface air temperature trends from satellite observations in the study, most of Antarctica and much of the surrounding Southern Ocean cooled during this period. The researchers posited that one-third of the 40-year cooling trend can be attributed to the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO). The MJO is the major fluctuation in the tropical weather on weekly to monthly timescales, characterized by its eastward-moving pulse of cloud and rainfall near the equator. It normally recurs every 30 to 60 days. This influence will likely accelerate the long-term cooling trend for Antarctica in the coming decades.

A study from Western Washington University in Bellingham showed that most of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet is cooling, with the warming constrained in the Antarctica Peninsula. With the help of satellite and surface temperature measurements, it demonstrated that Antarctica warming is false, as the satellite temperatures showed no warming in the last four decades. The southern ocean around Antarctica has also cooled since 2006, and sea ice has increased since 2012. The Larsen Ice Shelf station has also been cooling at a rate of 1.8 degrees Celsius per decade since 1995.

However, the government and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, as well as so-called scientists, still insist on saying that climate change is here, and the planet is getting warmer. (Related: Climate change HOAX has literally convinced a member of Congress that “the world is going to end in 12 years.)

Key factors to Antarctica’s climate
Antarctica’s climate remains windy and dry, with wind speeds that vary across the continent. The relative humidity of the air on the continent is often as low as 0.03 percent, and is considered to be a polar desert.

The coldness of Antarctica’s climate comes from various factors. Its high latitude means that sunlight hits the surface at a low angle, so solar energy is spread over a larger area than if the surface hits a higher angle. By being spread over this larger area, the energy received per unit is reduced. Furthermore, south of the Antarctic circle is a period during austral winter where the sun does not rise above the horizon.

The Antarctic Peninsula had been warming since at least the 1950s, but a shift in prevailing winds resulted in its cooling in 1998.

John Turner of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) said, “What we are seeing is natural climatic variability overriding global warming.”

Antarctica has barely warmed over the years, and the warming seas around its edges are eating away at ice shelves and glaciers but are yet to penetrate the vast interiors of the continent. Further, the winds that circle the south pole act as a shield that is keeping out warmer air from higher latitudes.

A separate study using Antarctic satellite temperatures also showed that there had been no warming as of late, and the Southern Ocean around Antarctica has markedly cooled since 2006. Sea ice also increased substantially since 2012, and surface temperatures at 13 stations over the Antarctic Peninsula have been cooling sharply since 2006. Sea ice has reached all-time highs, and temperatures have been cooling at a rate of 1.8 degrees Celsius per decade since 1995.

https://climatesciencenews.com/2021-08-23-antarctica-cooled-in-last-40-years.html
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It is not possible to measure the temperature of Antarctica.
 
domer76 said:
I never made a comment about the word ‘guarantee’, illiterate fuck. I told you already that I also didn’t comment on whether I agree with him or not.

You got schooled on the colloquialism ‘plus or minus’.

Why is it that you right wing morons are so fucking illiterate?
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The margin of error value is not a 'colloquialism'. It is required to accompany every statistical summary.
It is not possible to measure the global sea level. There is no valid reference point.
 
Matt Dillon said:
The weather changes, so do what they want and/or pay them money. It's the perfect scam framework! :eek:

With a strategy like that, they cannot lose!

I personally cannot fathom falling for that type of bullshit.
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'Weather' isn't 'climate', of course. Weather changes. Climate never does. There is no value in climate to 'change'. It is a subjective description only.

The scam is based on fear mongering, like usual. It's goal is the same as always...fascism.
 
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