Your reply was completely unrelated to my post. My comment was why some posters support these social programs yet complain when they go to the poor and minorities in red states. The system is set up to redistribute income from richer to poorer which is exactly what is happening when the richer blue states pay to support the poorer red ones. This is part of the taxing the rich many posters are calling for.
Seems the Blue States are still funding the Red States
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Your reply was completely unrelated to my post. My comment was why some posters support these social programs yet complain when they go to the poor and minorities in red states. The system is set up to redistribute income from richer to poorer which is exactly what is happening when the richer blue states pay to support the poorer red ones. This is part of the taxing the rich many posters are calling for.
It also has the highest poverty level in the nation based on the Census Bureau report which adjusts poverty rates for cost-of-living.
Most of those federal funds going to the red states are not welfare but federal contracts and grants according to the Methodology section of the article.
when the feds provide money to states like Louisiana for flood control programs that is charity
True, the same for hurricane and flood damage in NY and NJ. Southern and red states tend to have higher than average defense spending and contracts. But the perfect weapons system is produced in all 435 congressional districts--guarantees congressional approval.
Eagle_Eye
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That must mean the blue states aren't being taxed enough so we need to double their rate. Thats what you guys say about the rich so why not states?
The problem is that isn't what red states do, though.
Because of the welfare reform of the 1990's, federal welfare is no longer direct-to-recipient. Instead, it is now mostly given to states in the form of block grants because the argument was "states know better how to spend money than the feds" - a bullshit argument, of course. So the welfare reform law mandated that states need only spend 66% of the block grant on federal programs and can do what they want with the rest. So what do most red states do? Take the remainder of the welfare block grant to subsidize artificially low tax rates for (mostly) the wealthy. Because you see, tax cuts and low tax rates always lead to deficits, and since most of those red states have stupid BBA's, they have to raid the welfare block grant just to make up the revenue gaps that come from low tax rates. My state of GA is notorious for this, but we've seen it happen over and over the last 20 years. Most recently in Kansas, where they cut welfare to balance the budget that was thrown into disarray by the Conservative and Art Laffer-backed Brwnback Tax Cuts that failed to deliver on any of the promises made of them. Those tax cuts were so terrible that Republicans repealed them.
It's another example of Conservative fiscal terrorism.
Which is half the story...that new adjusted poverty rates considers a middle class family that gets breaks on things like tuition, or has children enrolled in sCHIP, as below the poverty rate.
So you're not actually accurate when you say this, and are deliberately painting a false picture by withholding exculpatory information to slime California because it succeeds where every single red state fails.
Every.
Single.
One.
How about instead, red states raise their tax rates so blue states don't have to bail them out with things like federal welfare block grants.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
its not our fault we have demmycrats......
Eagle_Eye
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I'm all for deporting MAGAts, then. Let's do it. Let's replace the MAGAts with refugees from South and Central America. I'm down.
Eagle_Eye
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Actually how about we deport all you left wing ass holes to liberal Venezuela and return sanity to politics?
Nah, I'll just stay here and vote so that my country can more resemble Canada.
And that's what we did three months ago. Remember that election? Or has your selective amnesia relapsed?
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
So you jackasses never factored this in when you wanted federal tax rates in the stratosphere? Or when you set your blue state taxes so high you chased your productive people to Texas and Florida? Screw you. Feed me, clothe me and put a roof over my head. I'm ENTITLED to it. What else are you going to do with all that money?
Appears that is exactly what Trump and the GOP have in mind, wasn't any accident that the SALT deduction has nearly disappeared
Just further proves those that cry and whine about what they see as freeloaders are actually talking about themselves
Eagle_Eye
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And my friends and I will nullify every one of your votes. Isn't 1 vote per person great?
I haven't heard the Democrat district in my State cry and whine about freeloaders. They'd be crying and whining about themselves and they aren't about to do that.
Pussies like you in Canada make claims about investigative abilities then, when provided details about where to come and get information they say they'll use to do all sorts of things, run like a coward and make excuses why they refuse to show?