Segregation now, segregation forever!

I pointed out that Congress made an unsuccssfull attempt at outlawing segregation in 1875, I never claimed that discrimination did not occure, in fact it still occures, I never claimed segregation was outlawed. I merely pointed out that in Congress as far back as 1875 there was an effort to do so...

You are smart enough to know that and not to confuse my points!

No, Congress made an attempt to outlaw DISCRIMINATION in 1875, and in 1876, much of what they tried to do was rescinded by the Post-Reconstruction Congress. It's a nice attempt, and maybe it's enough to convince a pinhead who doesn't have knowledge of historical facts, but it isn't convincing any smart people here. Most of us realize, America didn't "outlaw segregation" until 1964-65.... almost a century later.
 
LOL.. .Well... 1/8 is Native American Cherokee Indian, and I am listed as this on my drivers license. I also have 1/4 Asian blood, 1/4 "Black Dutch" which is actually German peasant stock, some Italian and Spanish blood as well. I am pretty much a mixed breed mutt! I come from a family of real horndogs, and as far as I know, none of my ancestors ever discriminated against ANY race, they pretty much LOVED everybody!

I have not rewritten history, that is what you and Jarhead keep trying to do. Read his silliness about the "Desegregation Act of 1875" that never existed because segregation hadn't even begun as an institutionalized policy yet! Oh yes, I suppose you could make an argument that white people eating in a white restaurant while the black man swung from a tree out back for looking in the window, was "segregation" ...just not what I commonly think of as such.


Stop being an asshole by cutting my post to act as a lead in to your BS. All you've done is just elaborate my previous point.

1/8 native American.....so this justifies your racist rantings against blacks how? And you had your license customized to reflect all this percentile blatherings? Yeah, I'd pay to see that. Seems you're awfully paranoid about your racial identity, bunky. See a shrink.

Like I said before, there is much to pity assholes like you....you put on your "ethnic mix" coat to justify your bigoted rantings, but YOU ARE white by physical identification in this society and by your personal mindset..and to belong to the faction of white society that obviously dominates your local and/or family, you readily mouth the bigoted mindset that I previously noted.

And stop lying! Jarod mispoke with the "desegregation act" on ONE post...and like the intellectual coward that you are you falsely portray EVERYTHING HE WROTE as that one sentence...but as the chronology of the posts shows, that is not the case.

And like the willfully ignorant and stubborn little bigot you are, you repeat your nonsense about segregation....because according to you it didn't exist because it wasn't an "official" policy....as I logically and factually proved, you were wrong.


But like all willfully ignorant and stubborn racist, you'll just keep blabbing the same old disproved assertions...because that's what it's all about with assholes like you...just a platform to be heard, rationality and logic be damned.

Say good night gracie...shows over for you.

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Stop being an asshole by cutting my post to act as a lead in to your BS. All you've done is just elaborate my previous point.

No, I've elaborated on what a fuckwit idiot you are.

1/8 native American.....so this justifies your racist rantings against blacks how?

I've never uttered one racist word in my entire life. You're confusing me with a Stereotype, sorry Chicklet!

And you had your license customized to reflect all this percentile blatherings? Yeah, I'd pay to see that. Seems you're awfully paranoid about your racial identity, bunky. See a shrink.

Don't need one, I have a Psych degree. I didn't have it "customized" at all, I just provided the necessary paperwork to show my ancestry was Native American, and they put that on my license. Not paranoid about my racial identity, I am quite proud of all my racially diverse heritage. I'm particularly proud of my mostly Native American forefathers who fought with General Lee in the Civil War. Not real proud of what U.S. Grant did to my people when he was president... you know, in between his signing all that "desegregation" legislation into law... when he was implementing the Trail of Tears?

Like I said before, there is much to pity assholes like you....you put on your "ethnic mix" coat to justify your bigoted rantings, but YOU ARE white by physical identification in this society and by your personal mindset..and to belong to the faction of white society that obviously dominates your local and/or family, you readily mouth the bigoted mindset that I previously noted.

Damn what a convoluted mouth full! Nothing bigoted in what I said, and I already provided my genealogy, I'm probably less "white" than anything.... but you keep believing in the stereotype, it shows people what a discriminatory prejudice fuck you really are!

And stop lying! Jarod mispoke with the "desegregation act" on ONE post...and like the intellectual coward that you are you falsely portray EVERYTHING HE WROTE as that one sentence...but as the chronology of the posts shows, that is not the case.

No, he mentioned it repeatedly, and last post, was still arguing that this was the case. Neither one of you has ever admitted it was a crock of shit, until you just did. Thanks for finally admitting Jarhead didn't know what the fuck he was talking about, it took you long enough!

And like the willfully ignorant and stubborn little bigot you are, you repeat your nonsense about segregation....because according to you it didn't exist because it wasn't an "official" policy....as I logically and factually proved, you were wrong.

No, you didn't prove me wrong. You posted something that incorrectly stated something about "segregation" but it's a fact of the matter that "segregationist policies" didn't come into play until AFTER 1875, and they persisted well into the 20th century, until 1964, as a matter of fact. They were upheld on numerous occasions by the Supreme Court, and when people like Strom Thurmond were advocating a continuation of what had been the law for nearly a century, it was very popular among most Americans who voted at the time, which were mostly white voters, because the "segregationist system" was stacked against blacks in America. I don't care if you want to deny that, it's a fact, and it does far more detriment to race relations in America to try and pretend otherwise, than anything I could ever say or do. But again, please do keep showing people what an intolerant bigot you are!
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Stop being an asshole by cutting my post to act as a lead in to your BS. All you've done is just elaborate my previous point.

Originally Posted by Dixie:
No, I've elaborated on what a fuckwit idiot you are.

Stop lying, the previous post clearly shows you using only PART of my sentence and then going off on one of your diatribes...you use an old tactic by dishonest debators to misrepresent what your opponent states....pity for you the chronology of the post is once again your undoing.


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
1/8 native American.....so this justifies your racist rantings against blacks how?

Originally Posted by Dixie
I've never uttered one racist word in my entire life. You're confusing me with a Stereotype, sorry Chicklet!

Anyone who tries to deny the racist connotations of the Confederate flag is just another sheet wearer...whether you have the guts to say so or not. Any imbecile who states that black folk just accepted slavery because there was no constant organized revolt a'la' the late 50's to 1960's Civil Rights movement is a white supremacist revisionist. Any buffoon who claims that a Civil Rights Act that states giving rights to all citizens on par to white people, but does not use the word "segregation" and therefore doesn't mean it's contents were against segregation is a racial revisionist of history. And any numbskull that alludes to segregation not "officially" existing in the 1800's is just that, a numbskull. A racist by any other name stinks just as bad.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And you had your license customized to reflect all this percentile blatherings? Yeah, I'd pay to see that. Seems you're awfully paranoid about your racial identity, bunky. See a shrink.

Originally Posted by Dixie:
Don't need one, I have a Psych degree. I didn't have it "customized" at all, I just provided the necessary paperwork to show my ancestry was Native American, and they put that on my license. Not paranoid about my racial identity, I am quite proud of all my racially diverse heritage. I'm particularly proud of my mostly Native American forefathers who fought with General Lee in the Civil War. Not real proud of what U.S. Grant did to my people when he was president... you know, in between his signing all that "desegregation" legislation into law... when he was implementing the Trail of Tears?

You've got a psych degree like I'm Santa Claus. Bottom line: I really would like you to produce the link to the state form which says that your license plate will state that your 1/8 Native American....or any other racial ID. In my lifetime, all State driver's licenses have photo ID, birth dates, eye, color, endorsements, restrictions....but NOTHING about racial or ethnic identification. So unless you live on or belong to a reservations and your state has special licenses drawn up for that, you're just blowing more smoke out your ass. Again, you're physical make-up is that of a caucasian, and your writings reflect the mindset of a white supremacist trying to rewrite history. And spare me the side bar about the Confederacy treating the Native people of America better than the Union....bottom line: the white man as a whole screwed over the native folk in America....whether in the short or long term, before, during and after the Civil War. A matter of history, a matter of fact. And NOTHING in your racial make up justifies your David Duke-ism (by the by, chuckles....by the old laws the 1700 and 1800's if your 1/16 black blood were none, you would either be categorized as "colored or creole or black" and NOT have the rights of the Constitution on your side...in Alabama you would have caught hell right up to 1968 and a little beyond. All your BS here would have had quite the different viewpoint. Didn't think that one through, did ya bunky?)


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Like I said before, there is much to pity assholes like you....you put on your "ethnic mix" coat to justify your bigoted rantings, but YOU ARE white by physical identification in this society and by your personal mindset..and to belong to the faction of white society that obviously dominates your local and/or family, you readily mouth the bigoted mindset that I previously noted.

Originally Posted by Dixie
Damn what a convoluted mouth full! Nothing bigoted in what I said, and I already provided my genealogy, I'm probably less "white" than anything.... but you keep believing in the stereotype, it shows people what a discriminatory prejudice fuck you really are!

You're full of it, as my above responses deduce using logic.


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And stop lying! Jarod mispoke with the "desegregation act" on ONE post...and like the intellectual coward that you are you falsely portray EVERYTHING HE WROTE as that one sentence...but as the chronology of the posts shows, that is not the case.

Originally Posted by Dixie
No, he mentioned it repeatedly, and last post, was still arguing that this was the case. Neither one of you has ever admitted it was a crock of shit, until you just did. Thanks for finally admitting Jarhead didn't know what the fuck he was talking about, it took you long enough!

You're a liar.....exactly what are the post numbers where Jarod CONTINUOUSLY says Desegregation Act of 1875? Exactly how many of them are there? Shouldn't be hard for you to back clik to those post and report them, if they are as numerous as you claim. You waste an enormous amount of time lying and bullshitting, so this should be a snap....unless you're full of it as usual.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And like the willfully ignorant and stubborn little bigot you are, you repeat your nonsense about segregation....because according to you it didn't exist because it wasn't an "official" policy....as I logically and factually proved, you were wrong.

Originally Posted by Dixie
No, you didn't prove me wrong. You posted something that incorrectly stated something about "segregation" but it's a fact of the matter that "segregationist policies" didn't come into play until AFTER 1875, and they persisted well into the 20th century, until 1964, as a matter of fact. They were upheld on numerous occasions by the Supreme Court, and when people like Strom Thurmond were advocating a continuation of what had been the law for nearly a century, it was very popular among most Americans who voted at the time, which were mostly white voters, because the "segregationist system" was stacked against blacks in America. I don't care if you want to deny that, it's a fact, and it does far more detriment to race relations in America to try and pretend otherwise, than anything I could ever say or do. But again, please do keep showing people what an intolerant bigot you are!

Man, you've GOT to get the crack out of that pipe. Bottom line: you claim that there were no segregation policies in America, yet I provide DOCUMENTATION TO THE CONTRARY. Your childish denial and stubborn repetition of your myopic and revisionist bullshit won't erase historical fact....documentation of segregation of black folk that WHITE people noted, recorded and protested against in parts of America. Then you have Acts in 1866 and 1875 that are geared to reaffirm and/or enact Civil Rights of all folks in America with those on par with white people (they said it, I didn't), which would negate those segregatist policies. All you've got is "well, they didn't use the word "segregation" in the Acts so it didn't exist as a policy because people just did it, they didn't tack up official laws"....which is just plain psychotic denial of what exists and how/why laws actually come into existence.

Keep braying like an ass, Dixie.....it's the only tune you know...and the facts make you more of an ass than you already are. I leave you to sputter and fume, stamping your widdle feet and repetitively raging in vain.

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Originally Posted by Dixie:
No, I've elaborated on what a fuckwit idiot you are.

Stop lying, the previous post clearly shows you using only PART of my sentence and then going off on one of your diatribes...you use an old tactic by dishonest debators to misrepresent what your opponent states....pity for you the chronology of the post is once again your undoing.

Debate? LOL... That ended on page 11, when I posted a rather lengthy flurry of posts depicting the very graphic nature of what was happening in America during a time you and Jarhead claimed Americans had outlawed segregation! The remainder of this thread has been you and Jarhead pretending you've proven some point, and you being an attention whore. The chronology of the posts is your enemy, I wouldn't be calling anyone's attention to that!

Anyone who tries to deny the racist connotations of the Confederate flag is just another sheet wearer...whether you have the guts to say so or not.


There is no connotation of racism in a battle flag that men who never owned a slave, fought and died under! Indeed, some racist hate groups hijacked our beloved battle flag and used it to promote their hate, I can't help what they did, and it doesn't change what that flag represents to me and other Sons of the Confederacy. The fact that you are an ignorant bigot who doesn't accept the traditional history of the Confederate States of America, or have respect for soldiers who died fighting for their homeland, is not my problem.

Any imbecile who states that black folk just accepted slavery because there was no constant organized revolt a'la' the late 50's to 1960's Civil Rights movement is a white supremacist revisionist.

First of all, I never said black folk "accepted" slavery, but for the sake of argument, just what in the fuck else were they supposed to do? It was either accept slavery or be killed. Slaves had no political power to change their condition, they had no choice BUT to accept it, but that is not what I said. I argued that blacks (and whites) accepted policies of segregation, and they did. Again, black people had no real choice, they could either accept the policies endorsed by the Supreme Court, or they could swing from a tree! Now they didn't LIKE it, is that what you mean to say? Because I will agree with you on that, they most certainly weren't tickled about being treated as second-class citizens all those years, but the point I made was, until Rosa Parks defiantly refused to move to the back of the bus, until she made that stand in the name of Civil Rights, society as a whole accepted it... condoned it... tolerated it... and continued to endorse it as law of the land.


Any buffoon who claims that a Civil Rights Act that states giving rights to all citizens on par to white people, but does not use the word "segregation" and therefore doesn't mean it's contents were against segregation is a racial revisionist of history.

Well no, it's called "someone being honest" about what it said and what went down in history. I'm not "revising" any of it! I've admitted, the South was duplicitous in supporting segregation and discrimination against black people, but so did the North, East, and West! The whole damn country is to blame for it, not just the South. It is YOU AND JARHEAD who seem to want to rewrite history on that. I have spoken the absolute truth in every post.

And any numbskull that alludes to segregation not "officially" existing in the 1800's is just that, a numbskull. A racist by any other name stinks just as bad.

Well you can CLAIM anything you wish, the fact is, there was no tenable reason for segregation of blacks from whites in 1870 America, there was no law that stipulated blacks had to be given anything afforded to whites, and those who dared to suggest it, were often found dangling from a tree somewhere. You can call me a "racist" for speaking the truth all you like, nothing in what I've said is the least bit racist in any way, it's the goddamn truth! It's what happened in 1870 America! If you wish to rewrite history, redefining the meaning of "segregation" to include lynching black people as opposed to providing them with "separate but equal" accommodation, that is entirely up to you, but it's not how I define "segregation" and I doubt many people do.

You've got a psych degree like I'm Santa Claus.

I would like a Bugatti Veyron and two hot blondes under the tree this year, I've been a very good boy!

Bottom line: I really would like you to produce the link to the state form which says that your license plate will state that your 1/8 Native American....or any other racial ID. In my lifetime, all State driver's licenses have photo ID, birth dates, eye, color, endorsements, restrictions....but NOTHING about racial or ethnic identification. So unless you live on or belong to a reservations and your state has special licenses drawn up for that, you're just blowing more smoke out your ass.

Well, they actually don't put it on your license anymore, they used to. I have an old one from 1976, and it lists me as [NA] under race, which stands for Native American. If you are at least 1/8 Native American, you qualify for all kinds of perks, and you aren't required to live on a reservation. My birth certificate from 1958, also lists me as Native American. I got a college scholarship for being Native American. I also get a check from the Cherokee Gaming Authority.. Casino money... my share. I do not know how to blow smoke out my ass, but my Uncle could blow smoke signals out of his ears!!!


Again, you're physical make-up is that of a caucasian, and your writings reflect the mindset of a white supremacist trying to rewrite history.

No, I told you, my physical makeup is all over the board... Indian, Black, Asian, Black Dutch, Spanish... And my writings are truth and fact, whether you perceive them through the prism of prejudice and stereotype, is a different matter. Perhaps you should work on your own bigotry before you go pointing it out in others?


And spare me the side bar about the Confederacy treating the Native people of America better than the Union....bottom line: the white man as a whole screwed over the native folk in America....whether in the short or long term, before, during and after the Civil War. A matter of history, a matter of fact.

Oh, I am well aware of how Native Americans were treated in America, which is why I don't understand how you and Jarhead can sit there with a straight face and say that America outlawed segregation in 1875! The same president who signed the CRA of 1875 into law, just months later, literally stole millions of acres of Native American lands and marched them to Oklahoma to live as wards of the state on reservations. Many of my people died on the way, and weren't even given time to bury their dead properly. It was probably one of the most heinous acts of inhumanity and discrimination in American history, and it was done at the order and command of the very guy you and Jarhead claim, "desegregated" America... that's what is so startling about your assertions! You want to pretend those people were against discrimination, and endorsed racial equality, and that simply insults my intelligence in about every way possible. Nothing could be further from the truth!


And NOTHING in your racial make up justifies your David Duke-ism

Apparently your bigoted eyes are reading stuff that just isn't there!


(by the by, chuckles....by the old laws the 1700 and 1800's if your 1/16 black blood were none, you would either be categorized as "colored or creole or black" and NOT have the rights of the Constitution on your side...in Alabama you would have caught hell right up to 1968 and a little beyond. All your BS here would have had quite the different viewpoint. Didn't think that one through, did ya bunky?)

Oh, I have been discriminated against many times, especially in school. We tried not to disclose our ethnicity for that very reason. But the most discriminatory thing that ever happened to my family, was when we went on vacation to Yosemite, and the hotel where we had made reservations months in advance, suddenly had "no vacancy" when we arrived... funny, they had a virtually empty parking lot.

But wait a minute, you are trying again to intercept MY argument and make it your own! I can't let you do that Chicklet! I have been the one arguing that discrimination, prejudice, and segregation were rampant throughout the 20th century, YOU AND JARHEAD are the ones arguing we outlawed it in 1875! It is ME (the David Duke type) who is saying that the Supreme Court upheld the Constitutionality of segregation all those years, and YOU AND JARHEAD who are saying America outlawed it in 1875! Did you forget what side of the argument you were on again? Because this makes the second time in this thread that I've had to get you back on course.

You're a liar.....exactly what are the post numbers where Jarod CONTINUOUSLY says Desegregation Act of 1875? Exactly how many of them are there? Shouldn't be hard for you to back clik to those post and report them, if they are as numerous as you claim. You waste an enormous amount of time lying and bullshitting, so this should be a snap....unless you're full of it as usual.

It's a long ass thread, I don't have time to go back and count, but I know it was more than ONE time, as you claimed. He finally changed it, after being shown what an idiot jarhead he was being.

Man, you've GOT to get the crack out of that pipe. Bottom line: you claim that there were no segregation policies in America, yet I provide DOCUMENTATION TO THE CONTRARY. Your childish denial and stubborn repetition of your myopic and revisionist bullshit won't erase historical fact....documentation of segregation of black folk that WHITE people noted, recorded and protested against in parts of America. Then you have Acts in 1866 and 1875 that are geared to reaffirm and/or enact Civil Rights of all folks in America with those on par with white people (they said it, I didn't), which would negate those segregatist policies. All you've got is "well, they didn't use the word "segregation" in the Acts so it didn't exist as a policy because people just did it, they didn't tack up official laws"....which is just plain psychotic denial of what exists and how/why laws actually come into existence.


Nothing you or the Jarhead have posted, shows a damn thing about "segregation" being a policy in 1875 America. As I said, there is no tenable reason for segregation to have been a policy, black people had no right to separate facilities at all! In 1875 the debate was whether or not black people had ANY Constitutional rights, or if they were even citizens! Some didn't even want to say they were HUMANS! Segregation didn't start happening until the CRA of 1875, which established in law, that blacks had to be given "equal access" ...that's where "separate but equal" evolved from! Before that, there was no "separate" and certainly no "equal!"
 
Some comments regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1875....

The Civil Rights Act of 1875 provided for "the full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations of inns, public transportation, theaters, and other amusement places. It provided for either criminal or civil enforcement. If found guilty in a criminal trial, the lawbreaker was punishable by a $500 to $1,000 fine and between thirty days and one year in jail. Alternatively, the victim could file a civil suit for $500 in damages. Another provision barred the disqualification of jurors on account of color in any state or federal court. The Act also made U.S. law enforcement officials criminally and civilly liable if they failed to enforce its provisions.

Sumner's proposal required integration not only of inns, transportation, and amusement places, but also of religious institutions, common schools, and legally incorporated cemeteries.
 
Some comments regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1875....

The Civil Rights Act of 1875 provided for "the full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations of inns, public transportation, theaters, and other amusement places. It provided for either criminal or civil enforcement. If found guilty in a criminal trial, the lawbreaker was punishable by a $500 to $1,000 fine and between thirty days and one year in jail. Alternatively, the victim could file a civil suit for $500 in damages. Another provision barred the disqualification of jurors on account of color in any state or federal court. The Act also made U.S. law enforcement officials criminally and civilly liable if they failed to enforce its provisions.

Sumner's proposal required integration not only of inns, transportation, and amusement places, but also of religious institutions, common schools, and legally incorporated cemeteries.

I am sorry, but if you read carefully, the text of the bill says NOTHING about "integration" of anything. It only requires provision of "full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations, inns, public transportation, etc. You can keep on believing in some ignorance you've spewed here, but the fact remains it is ignorance. I fully understand the bill called for "equality" but it did not call for "desegregation" or "integration" and was essentially the reason FOR segregationist policies to follow in the years to come. I'm sorry you though something else was the case, I wish I could make that better for you, but I simply can't change history. America, ALL of America, discriminated and segregated black Americans for nearly a century following the Civil War, and that is just something we need to learn to live with regarding our past. I can do that, I can move on, but apparently you and Chicklet need to rewrite history and pretend something else was the case. I suppose this is concocted to make yourselves feel better about your own state, your own ancestors, and your own government... when you can make the South your scapegoat for discrimination and prejudice, it lets you ride up on a high horse of moral superiority. Problem is, everybody's not stupid, they can read about the history of discrimination for themselves, most of them were alive when Martin Luther King spoke, they remember the racial turmoil in the 1960s, and they fully understand this was not merely a "Southern Thing" or relegated to the southern United States. Only bigoted stereotyping fools like you and Chicklet, believe such foolishness.
 
How can a black person enjoy "full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations, inns, public transportation, etc unless it is integrated?


ALL of America, discriminated and segregated black Americans for nearly a century following the Civil War, and that is just something we need to learn to live with regarding our past.

Really, even the Black Americans?
 
I am sorry, but if you read carefully, the text of the bill says NOTHING about "integration" of anything. It only requires provision of "full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations, inns, public transportation, etc. You can keep on believing in some ignorance you've spewed here, but the fact remains it is ignorance. I fully understand the bill called for "equality" but it did not call for "desegregation" or "integration" and was essentially the reason FOR segregationist policies to follow in the years to come. I'm sorry you though something else was the case, I wish I could make that better for you, but I simply can't change history. America, ALL of America, discriminated and segregated black Americans for nearly a century following the Civil War, and that is just something we need to learn to live with regarding our past. I can do that, I can move on, but apparently you and Chicklet need to rewrite history and pretend something else was the case. I suppose this is concocted to make yourselves feel better about your own state, your own ancestors, and your own government... when you can make the South your scapegoat for discrimination and prejudice, it lets you ride up on a high horse of moral superiority. Problem is, everybody's not stupid, they can read about the history of discrimination for themselves, most of them were alive when Martin Luther King spoke, they remember the racial turmoil in the 1960s, and they fully understand this was not merely a "Southern Thing" or relegated to the southern United States. Only bigoted stereotyping fools like you and Chicklet, believe such foolishness.

My ancestors are from ALABAMA!

MY ancestors owned Slaves... I am not proud of those two things, but they are facts.
 
How can a black person enjoy "full and equal enjoyment" of accommodations, inns, public transportation, etc unless it is integrated?

Very good question! Here's the answer... The predominately white legislatures and voters, decided that something called "Segregation" could provide full and equal enjoyment for blacks, without integrating them with whites. This viewpoint was upheld by the SCOTUS in numerous cases, most notably, Plessy v. Ferguson. This line of thinking prevailed until 1954, and the landmark case of Brown v. Board of Ed. It was, at that point in history, where the SCOTUS realized the injustice and inequality inherent in segregationist laws. Your mental retardation is apparently causing you to attempt to apply a somewhat modern viewpoint to 1875 Americans, and that simply was not the case, and denies reality.

ALL of America, discriminated and segregated black Americans for nearly a century following the Civil War, and that is just something we need to learn to live with regarding our past.

Really, even the Black Americans?

No, most black Americans didn't agree with segregation, and there were a lot of people who opposed it through the years, but the legislatures and electorate was largely white, and was structured to limit the political voice of blacks. There were poll taxes, literacy tests, etc... these all fell in 1965, with passage of the Voting Rights Act. Again, you seem to want to apply a rather modern viewpoint and standard to 1875 America, and it just doesn't comport with reality.
 
My ancestors are from ALABAMA!

MY ancestors owned Slaves... I am not proud of those two things, but they are facts.

Well, my ancestors DIDN'T own slaves! In fact, my ancestors didn't even know anyone who owned a slave! My grandmother raised 8 children through the Great Depression by picking cotton for a black sharecropper. My mother participated in the Selma-Montgomery March with Dr. King! I am not proud of Alabama's racist past either, but my family was not a part of it. This doesn't excuse Alabama or the South, and it doesn't absolve me from personal responsibility for past indiscretions of our society. I can accept the history as it happened and move forward, I don't need to rewrite it to make myself feel better, like you seem to want to do. This is the reason I have no shame in flying the confederate flag in my avatar, I think it is very important to remember where we came from, remember our history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and embrace our heritage for the good aspects while recognizing our faults. It doesn't change what happened, to denigrate symbols from the past, doesn't change it one bit! It doesn't make us better to do that, it makes us worse, because it allows us to remain in abject denial of reality, as you have so eloquently demonstrated in this thread.
 
Very good question! Here's the answer... The predominately white legislatures and voters, decided that something called "Segregation" could provide full and equal enjoyment for blacks, without integrating them with whites. This viewpoint was upheld by the SCOTUS in numerous cases, most notably, Plessy v. Ferguson. This line of thinking prevailed until 1954, and the landmark case of Brown v. Board of Ed. It was, at that point in history, where the SCOTUS realized the injustice and inequality inherent in segregationist laws. Your mental retardation is apparently causing you to attempt to apply a somewhat modern viewpoint to 1875 Americans, and that simply was not the case, and denies reality.



No, most black Americans didn't agree with segregation, and there were a lot of people who opposed it through the years, but the legislatures and electorate was largely white, and was structured to limit the political voice of blacks. There were poll taxes, literacy tests, etc... these all fell in 1965, with passage of the Voting Rights Act. Again, you seem to want to apply a rather modern viewpoint and standard to 1875 America, and it just doesn't comport with reality.

You said ALL of America!
 
Well, my ancestors DIDN'T own slaves! In fact, my ancestors didn't even know anyone who owned a slave! My grandmother raised 8 children through the Great Depression by picking cotton for a black sharecropper. My mother participated in the Selma-Montgomery March with Dr. King! I am not proud of Alabama's racist past either, but my family was not a part of it. This doesn't excuse Alabama or the South, and it doesn't absolve me from personal responsibility for past indiscretions of our society. I can accept the history as it happened and move forward, I don't need to rewrite it to make myself feel better, like you seem to want to do. This is the reason I have no shame in flying the confederate flag in my avatar, I think it is very important to remember where we came from, remember our history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and embrace our heritage for the good aspects while recognizing our faults. It doesn't change what happened, to denigrate symbols from the past, doesn't change it one bit! It doesn't make us better to do that, it makes us worse, because it allows us to remain in abject denial of reality, as you have so eloquently demonstrated in this thread.

DO you still stand with your statement that not a single congressmen or Senator was for equal rights?
 
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