Sequester! Oh no!!!!!!!!

actions speak louder than words... Thus far he has managed four years of trillion dollar deficits where spending is far higher than avg as a percentage of gdp. He is currently campaigning against paltry spending cuts the sequester would bring. After getting $600B in tax increases he still wants more and is currently campaigning on that as well.

Pull your head out of the sand Jarod...

Im not denying he wants more tax increases, so do I.

I belive the deficits were necessary to avert more of a fiscal crisis than we had, and now is the time to cut back on that spending. He is campaigning against cuts that would harm us, not responsable cuts. You are the one with your head in the sand.

The President is trying to drag Congress along in his plan to increase revenue, responsably cut spending and reduce the deficit. You can pretned thats not true all you want, but you will be wrong.
 
Im not denying he wants more tax increases, so do I.

I belive the deficits were necessary to avert more of a fiscal crisis than we had, and now is the time to cut back on that spending. He is campaigning against cuts that would harm us, not responsable cuts. You are the one with your head in the sand.

The President is trying to drag Congress along in his plan to increase revenue, responsably cut spending and reduce the deficit. You can pretned thats not true all you want, but you will be wrong.

Can you give us some examples of "responsible" cuts vs. cuts that will harm us?
 
Im not denying he wants more tax increases, so do I.

I belive the deficits were necessary to avert more of a fiscal crisis than we had, and now is the time to cut back on that spending. He is campaigning against cuts that would harm us, not responsable cuts. You are the one with your head in the sand.

The President is trying to drag Congress along in his plan to increase revenue, responsably cut spending and reduce the deficit. You can pretned thats not true all you want, but you will be wrong.

really who would you say we raise taxes on? the middle class again?
 
Reality check:

The sequester came about as a COMPROMISE last year when the GOP was holding the "fiscal cliff" over everyone's head unless they secured the majority of the Bush tax cuts. Boehner and Ryan are BOTH on record saying they were happy with that compromise.

The sequester was originally put forth as a final option IN THE EVENT THAT THE CONGRESS COULD NOT HAMMER OUT A DECENT COMPROMISE REGARDING THE FEDERAL BUDGET.

To date, the GOP is STILL holding to it's plant to stonewall ANY and ALL proposals by this President's administration that would benefit the people and thus give him a positive legacy (while protecting their out sourcing, union busting, job killing, corporate theft commiting constiuency).

And if anyone cares to remember, a MAJOR contributor to this deficit are the two wars and perscription drug plan that the Shrub and company KEPT OFF THE BOOKS until Obama took office.

Carry on.
 
Lets get back on to the purpose of this thread. Do all of you agree that cutting $85 billion of a $3.8 trillion budget will have catastrophic impact?

In todays political environment, who had the idea means a lot. Our gov't has been run by partisan extremes for so long we have ceased to recognize it.

So who wrote it and pushed is very relevant.
 
In todays political environment, who had the idea means a lot. Our gov't has been run by partisan extremes for so long we have ceased to recognize it.

So who wrote it and pushed is very relevant.

So, sad, so true, one just has to look at the Affordable Care Act to realize this sad fact.
 
Reality check:

The sequester came about as a COMPROMISE last year when the GOP was holding the "fiscal cliff" over everyone's head unless they secured the majority of the Bush tax cuts. Boehner and Ryan are BOTH on record saying they were happy with that compromise.

The sequester was originally put forth as a final option IN THE EVENT THAT THE CONGRESS COULD NOT HAMMER OUT A DECENT COMPROMISE REGARDING THE FEDERAL BUDGET.

To date, the GOP is STILL holding to it's plant to stonewall ANY and ALL proposals by this President's administration that would benefit the people and thus give him a positive legacy (while protecting their out sourcing, union busting, job killing, corporate theft commiting constiuency).

And if anyone cares to remember, a MAJOR contributor to this deficit are the two wars and perscription drug plan that the Shrub and company KEPT OFF THE BOOKS until Obama took office.

Carry on.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-outsourced-jobs-stimulus-funding
 
Bringing the troops home from Afganistan is another example.

Ending the war in Iraq is another example.
 
So in other words Jarod there are no actual cuts you would make. There are no "reasonable" cuts. Excuse me, you would cut the penny which would save 1/10th of 1% of the budget.
 
So in other words Jarod there are no actual cuts you would make. Excuse me, you would cut the penny which would save 1/10th of 1% of the budget.

You asked for examples, I gave you three off the top of my head.

I asked for examples... you cant seem to give me one.
 
You asked for examples, I gave you three off the top of my head.

I asked for examples... you cant seem to give me one.

LOL, I'm fine with cutting a lot. I could list a whole bunch of thing.

Bringing the troops home aren't cuts. Talk about our actual budget. What discrectionary or non-discretionary cuts would you deem "reasonable"?
 
LOL, I'm fine with cutting a lot. I could list a whole bunch of thing.

Bringing the troops home aren't cuts. Talk about our actual budget. What discrectionary or non-discretionary cuts would you deem "reasonable"?

I did not ask what cuts you are fine with.... Still avoiding providing examples??
 
You asked for examples, I gave you three off the top of my head.

I asked for examples... you cant seem to give me one.

Iraq is done Jarod... thus it is not a cut.

The draw down in Afghanistan is already factored in... not a cut

the penny? seriously? lmao...
 
I did not ask what cuts you are fine with.... Still avoiding providing examples??

Dude, restructure medicare and social security.

Cut the federal education budget.

Cut the military budget.

Would you like me to go on?

I'm not the one saying we need to make "reasonable" cuts vs. harmful cuts. You can't even give a damn example, other than the penny, of what a "reasonable" cut is vs. a harmful cut. It's a stupid code word with absolutely no meaning.
 
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