Seriously? Randall Paul is more of a joke every day!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/07/rand-paul-bill-clinton_n_4745892.html


Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) again called out former President Bill Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal -- which took place 16 years ago -- saying Democrats should return any money raised with his help.

I call this desperate.




they are going to do to Hilary what the right wing fucks here do to me,


they cant win a debate with me so they tell fucking lies about my clit and how I can or cant get sex.



they are going to talk about Hilary as if she is sex starved because bill wont giver her any and the like.

its all these brain dead idiots can think of to do.

their brains atrophied in middle school
 
Two adults in a consensual adulterous relationship, Id say the only possible victim is the spouse, that would be Secretary Clinton! And she's not complaining.


Really, now Lewinsky is the victim?

This is why nobody takes sexual harassment seriously anymore. Thanks to hypocrites like you
 
Take Bill Clinton out of it. Let's say this happened in corporate America. The (male) CEO of a company has an affair in his office with a company (female) intern. You don't think there would be cries of workplace sexual harassment coming from some people? That even if it was consensual that it was inappropriate for the CEO to act that way?

Some might, but its not legally sexual harassment, and you would not hear it from me.
 
I could see the argument being made the woman was still a victim due to the power of the CEO and thought she had to go along with him so while technically consensual it really wasn't.



Its her duty to complain to HR, or at least resist in some way. If threats are made to get her to cooperate, then its sexual harassment, if all the evidence shows that the intern was the one to seek out the relationship, its not sexual harassment.

Many conservatives are VERY confused about what SH is.
 
That's a good argument, especially if the intern really needed the job.

Full disclosure, I've worked with lechers and it wasn't pleasant.

There is absolutely no evidence BC crossed that line. All the evidence shows it was ML who perused BC.
 
she wanted him and she was a complete adult.


how degrading to women is it to call an adult women a helpless fool in BCs hands.



If hil and bill had an agreement on side actions then who was fucking harmed?


I swear I think hil and bill had an agreement.



there was nothing illegal that happened
 
They clearly cant understand what Sexual harassment is.

In basic terms, if you use your power to coerce someone into having a sexual relationship, or if you create a hostile environment, after someone complains... that's sexual harassment.
 
Its her duty to complain to HR, or at least resist in some way. If threats are made to get her to cooperate, then its sexual harassment, if all the evidence shows that the intern was the one to seek out the relationship, its not sexual harassment.

Many conservatives are VERY confused about what SH is.

No Jarod I'm not confused. I've sat through a couple dozen corporate America "sensitivity" and "harassment" training classes. If a person of power makes a move on an underling that can be considered sexual harassment. Doesn't guarantee it is but it can be. And I don't care what you think may or may not hold up in a court of law. If you lose your job it doesn't matter what a court might say. If you effectively lose your ability to lead it doesn't matter what a court may say.

This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.
 
No Jarod I'm not confused. I've sat through a couple dozen corporate America "sensitivity" and "harassment" training classes. If a person of power makes a move on an underling that can be considered sexual harassment. Doesn't guarantee it is but it can be. And I don't care what you think may or may not hold up in a court of law. If you lose your job it doesn't matter what a court might say. If you effectively lose your ability to lead it doesn't matter what a court may say.

This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.

Then that is the fault of your Corporation... not politicians, or "liberals".
 
For it to be sexual harassment, does the "victim" have to have complained or at least disliked it?
 
Then that is the fault of your Corporation... not politicians, or "liberals".

I didn't blame liberals. I switched the conversation to corporations because mentioning Clinton turns into a partisan pissing match.
 
Look at the hoops these people jump through defending Billy

Then they wonder why they are laughed at when they talk about rape, war on women and sexual harassment. Nobody believes these issues are anything more than political weapons
 
I didn't blame liberals. I switched the conversation to corporations because mentioning Clinton turns into a partisan pissing match.

But Randall Paul is discussing it in a political context, calling ML a victim, when she liked the entire exchange and never complained about it still to this day. By calling her a "victim" they are cheapening what is real sexual harassment, there are plenty of real sh victim.
 
For it to be sexual harassment, does the "victim" have to have complained or at least disliked it?

Maybe this is where your white male privilege comes in and you can't put yourself in a young woman's shoes.

A (male) CEO hits on a young woman. She doesn't want to do it but is afraid of losing her job so she goes along. As an intern she is afraid to go to HR and report it because she's intimated by the CEO and afraid no one will believe her or take her side. So she keeps her mouth shut. Her fault?
 
Take Bill Clinton out of it. Let's say this happened in corporate America. The (male) CEO of a company has an affair in his office with a company (female) intern. You don't think there would be cries of workplace sexual harassment coming from some people? That even if it was consensual that it was inappropriate for the CEO to act that way?

Speculation! Your assumptions here are implausible; that is, highly unlikely at best absurd at worst.
 
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