Shiites burn six Sunni worshippers alive

[Cypress]

Oh, I think he has that down. That is NOT what I was 'conceding', rather the Saddam and international terrorism. I didn't want to do the work that shows how many agreed with him.

this is exaclty how war propagandists sold their war. By conflating two disparate issues, and convicing americans that they are the same issue.

Saddam certainly aided anti-iranian terrorists like MLK. MLK had regional goals, and Iran was Saddam's major regional enemy. Saddam would do anything to stick his finger in the eye of his number one enemy: Iran

Likewise, Saddam gave money to families of dead Hamas suicide bombers. Hamas again, is a national sunni organization with limited regional goals. Hamas has never attacked american interests or engaged in global jihad against western targets. Supporting nationalist regional arab causes gave Saddam "street cred" in the arab world. Its the oldest game in politics. In either case, Iran and Israel were threatned by these policies - not the United States.


War proponents and propagandists successfully conflated these regional nationalist arab and kurd movements - and saddams support for them - with al qaeda and global jihadists in the minds of pro-war american citizens.

 

[Annie]

sunni jihaddists virtually kill shia on sight now. The shia persian theocrats have little in common with sunni jihaddists. There's no credible evidence of a shia-sunni al qaeda alliance. In fact, they are practically blood enemies. Al qaeda leaders and groups have virtually declared war on shia muslims.

and in the differences between Palestinians, Eqyptians, Syrians?

 

[Cypress]

and in the differences between Palestinians, Eqyptians, Syrians?

you'll have to rephrase the question in the form of a complete sentence. I'm not sure I understand what your asking.

But to be clear, do you now agree that shia persians, are not likely to support a blood thirsty extremist sunni group that virtually kills and beheads shia on sight?

 

[Annie]

you'll have to rephrase the question in the form of a complete sentence. I'm not sure I understand what your asking.

But to be clear, do you now agree that shia persians, are not likely to support a blood thirsty extremist sunni group that virtually kills and beheads shia on sight?

I'll take a few to think about, in the meantime, I'm about to post something off topic of politics, I believe a first for me on this board!

 

[Cypress]

Look more to their favorite playgrounds, Iraq, Palestinian areas, Syria, Lebanon.

Well, I agree that Bush created a sunni jihadist playground where none existed before his war: Iraq.

Syria is not going to ally itself with al qaeda. Syria has a socialist, secular Bath regime. One of the many secular arab regime's Al qaeda wants to overthrow. Will syria try to make life difficult for bush in Iraq? Probably. And that's a shame, because we were getting fairly good cooperation from syria after 9/11 and before bush's war on Iraq. Syria didn't like al qaeda either.


Palestine? Not fertile ground for al qaeda. Hamas runs the show there. Palestinians are more interested in regional issues - like ending the israeli occupation and getting some of their land back - than in waging global jihad in London or Los Angels.

Lebanon? Much of lebanon is shia muslim, or christian dominated. Sunni extremists like al qaeda could get bogged down in conflict, and perhaps civil war with these groups. Lebanon isn't real fertile ground for al qaeda.