Should the Electoral College be preserved?

Should the Electoral College be preserved?

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T. A. Gardner said:
Yes, because it does to some extent make low population states more important in terms of electing a President.
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Really, how many low population states drew campaign attention in the last election? Any Presidential election? This year it came down to five or six States, as it has in nearly every election. The low population argument is a myth
 
Diogenes said:
So you say.

If you can show that it's a "misunderstanding of the EC", why not do so, instead of dismissing it as "irrelevant"?
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Had you understood the comment you would know the misunderstanding is explained, not dismissed as irrelevant. And your comment is certainly relevant since it mirrors a mistake frequently made about the EC. I've seen it made here a number of times.
 
Diogenes said:
Is it, Anchovies?
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Of course it is. Anyone following politics should have heard those assertions by now. There is no debate. There are 5 or 6 states that determine the election and they are besieged by candidates and advertising. I guess Infowars and Fox did not explain that to you.
 
As long as LAND votes for the President we will ALWAYS need the EC. That way smaller states with LESS LAND can have a bigger input in the process.

Because in America, despite the fact that it is the 21st century, we don't elect President by how POPULAR they are with the voters.
 
Daylight63 said:
As long as LAND votes for the President we will ALWAYS need the EC. That way smaller states with LESS LAND can have a bigger input in the process.

Because in America, despite the fact that it is the 21st century, we don't elect President by how POPULAR they are with the voters.
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The Founders intended Presidents should be elected "by how popular they are with voters". Smaller states were given a bigger voice in the process only because they demanded it as a condition for voting for ratification. "Smaller states" in this case means states with smaller numbers voters, which in the Constitutional era importantly included slave states with large populations of residents ineligible to vote. These states demanded "a bigger input" as a condition for voting for ratification. But there is no inherent reason why a voter in one state should have more say in a Presidential election than a voter in other states.
 
martin said:
The Founders intended Presidents should be elected "by how popular they are with voters". Smaller states were given a bigger voice in the process only because they demanded it as a condition for voting for ratification. "Smaller states" in this case means states with smaller numbers voters, which in the Constitutional era importantly included slave states with large populations of residents ineligible to vote. These states demanded "a bigger input" as a condition for voting for ratification. But there is no inherent reason why a voter in one state should have more say in a Presidential election than a voter in other states.
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Yup. Slavery. Why we wound up with as many fucked up institutional holdovers as we have. We had to toady to the worst people alive in order to build our nation.

Apparently we still do.
 
Daylight63 said:
Slavery.
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Simplistic, but it's understandable that you'd grab the first shiny object you're presented with, I suppose.

You do know that the Electoral College has outlasted slavery by close to 165 years, don't you?

Does that fact suggest that there are other reasons it's still extant?
 
Diogenes said:
Simplistic, but it's understandable that you'd grab the first shiny object you're presented with, I suppose.

You do know that the Electoral College has outlasted slavery by close to 165 years, don't you?

Does that fact suggest that there are other reasons it's still extant?
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Gosh, that's super deep.

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archives said:
It is antiquated, a State the size of Wyoming, which is smaller than metro Buffalo, gets more of a say in who is President than the citizenry of California which is sixty seven times greater in population than Wyoming
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no......they have the same weight......two votes per state plus equal votes based on population.........
 
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