Shouldn't we be at full employment by now?

I asked you to logically disprove one item in the source material I linked.

You couldn't, so you just blew smoke and are now moving the goalpost with your cherry picked fact.

Here, let me educate you (yet again) on the unemployment situation and how it got there.

CHART: Bush Vs. Obama On Private And Public Sector Job Creation

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/01/493849/obama-bush-jobs-record/

Dear leftist dunce parroting moronic talking points; you read, but do not comprehend.

Let's start with public employment; the reason public employment increased under Bush's watch is due to events like 9-11 and fighting two wars. It had ZERO to do with economics.

The reason it has seriously decreased under Obama has nothing to do with his policies, but mostly from the fact that tax revenue drastically declined during the recession and forced municipalities and states into shedding staff.

Now to the bullshit canard about Republican obstructionism; when Obama took office he had a Democrtatic majority for his first two years and passed just about everything Democrats ever had wet dreams about. Obamacare and a massive pork laden political $850 billion boondoggle that did nothing to increase economic output and jobs.

I'm amused that you dunces on the left think that another $450 billion pork laden spending bill can now do what an $850 billion spending could not do and euphemistically call it a "jobs" bill. But Liberals are incredibly dense when it comes to understanding economics.

This type of crony partisan bullshit spending won't do anything to create economic growth any more than Obamas beloved ACA will make Americans healthier.

With that; I would like you to point out the specific Bush legislation and policies that led to the mortgage collapse and subsequent wall street stock crash.

So what we have now is five years of trillions in deficits with absolutely nothing to show for it, 2.7 million fewer citizens participating in the labor force and economic malaise as a result of this administrations lack of a coherent policy and divisive Marxist class envy rhetoric this President engages in, and dunces like you rant that Republicans are still to blame because they refuse to rubber stamp another $450 billion mini version of what $850 could not do.

You dunces are beyond mere stupid. No wonder you elected and blindly support the most inept, incompetent, inexperienced, lying hyper partisan dunce to ever inhabit the White House.
 
The only thing you should be sorry about is your proud ignorance! Willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger blowhards like yourself are only interested in headlines and talking points, NOT details. Fortunately, the majority of the country is not like you...which is why the GOP is feeling the heat for the upcoming elections.

Here's a hint for you, bunky: Which President inherited an economic mandate that resulted in a Wall St. meltdown, criminal activity by bankers, a stonewall Congress, non-hiring corporations and a bill for two wars?

Now with all that, did you really think the unemployment rate would remain low? If so, then there's nothing I can do with you, so you may continue to parrot your talking point oblivious to all else.

Dear dunce; what was this mythical economic mandate the lying dunce Obama inherited that he wasn't a party to as a junior Senatior from IL?
 
Facts don't lie
Dem presidents yield a market better by 1 percent
I don't expect poor people to understand how big that is.
Also GDP is much higher under dems.
The richest investors are dems as are the most educated.
Weasel on teabaggers, your bachelors degree isn't shit.

Ahhhhh...there's the familiar dunce we know. Your claims have already been shown to be moronic; but here you erupt again.
 
Teabaggers fall back on unemployment because all the other economic numbers are better.
They never said dick about unemployment as bush ran it up to 9 percent.

Dear dunce; the media never stopped bashing Bush during his entire Presidency with claims that the unprecedented low unemployment numbers were not representing actual unemployment.

Now, after they helped drag Obamas sorry inept lying ass across the finish line in two e,ections, they are telling us that high unemployment is a good thing.

But alas, you're a dunce inclined to parrot their taking points like a clueless circus monkey.
 
Your to afraid to look up the data moron

Wrong again dunce; I posted the facts in another thread where you made an identical stupid claim. But like the clueless Liberal dunce you are, you can't remember past the last thread and instead want to wallow in the never ending circle of stupidity.

And it's "too" not "to" shit-for-brains.
 
Dear dunce; the media never stopped bashing Bush during his entire Presidency with claims that the unprecedented low unemployment numbers were not representing actual unemployment.

Now, after they helped drag Obamas sorry inept lying ass across the finish line in two e,ections, they are telling us that high unemployment is a good thing.

But alas, you're a dunce inclined to parrot their taking points like a clueless circus monkey.
I never bashed bush except for war mongering.
I made a shitload of money during the bush years. When I found out markets do way better under dems I switched.
Tea bag on toe tapper
 
1800 is the new support I am watching for the S&P right now. If we get two consecutive closes below 1800 then the bears have control. Next stop to watch will be 1775 which is ironically my last look at a short position.

BTW, my FXI puts have done very well. They are up 43% so far. Thinking about cashing them out. But, China is in for a beating so I don't want to leave profit on the table.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
The only thing you should be sorry about is your proud ignorance! Willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger blowhards like yourself are only interested in headlines and talking points, NOT details. Fortunately, the majority of the country is not like you...which is why the GOP is feeling the heat for the upcoming elections.

Here's a hint for you, bunky: Which President inherited an economic mandate that resulted in a Wall St. meltdown, criminal activity by bankers, a stonewall Congress, non-hiring corporations and a bill for two wars?

Now with all that, did you really think the unemployment rate would remain low? If so, then there's nothing I can do with you, so you may continue to parrot your talking point oblivious to all else.


Oh right. All he inherited. That story again. I guess he didn't know what he was getting into. How many more terms do you think he needs to get things fixed?

Yes, my mentally impotent friend, he did inherit it! Something you cannot ignore (but lord, how you do try).

President's are limited to 2 terms, bunky. And with the Congressional conditions I previously described, it's a miracle Obama could get ANYTHING POSITIVE done. I note that AGAIN you cannot logically or factually disprove what I point out, so you merely resort to childish blatherings.


Hey wipe off your chin you got a little Obama jizz on it

What is it with you neocon/teabagger types and gay sex? Seems every time you're shown to be the mental midgets that you are, you start sputtering all types of gay sex accusations. Look, see that psychiatrist and get your libido problems in order. Until then, I'll wait for you to muster the cojones to actually debate the points I put forth. If you can't, I won't waste time responding again.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
The only thing you should be sorry about is your proud ignorance! Willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger blowhards like yourself are only interested in headlines and talking points, NOT details. Fortunately, the majority of the country is not like you...which is why the GOP is feeling the heat for the upcoming elections.

Here's a hint for you, bunky: Which President inherited an economic mandate that resulted in a Wall St. meltdown, criminal activity by bankers, a stonewall Congress, non-hiring corporations and a bill for two wars?

Now with all that, did you really think the unemployment rate would remain low? If so, then there's nothing I can do with you, so you may continue to parrot your talking point oblivious to all else.

Dear dunce; what was this mythical economic mandate the lying dunce Obama inherited that he wasn't a party to as a junior Senatior from IL?

For starters, it was the Shrub's tax cuts that favored the rich, bunky. Here's a primer for your education:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073002671.html

Now, all YOU have to do is show me where Obama voted in favor of any reaganomic tax cuts while he was a senator. I'll wait.
 
1800 is the new support I am watching for the S&P right now. If we get two consecutive closes below 1800 then the bears have control. Next stop to watch will be 1775 which is ironically my last look at a short position.

BTW, my FXI puts have done very well. They are up 43% so far. Thinking about cashing them out. But, China is in for a beating so I don't want to leave profit on the table.

And since Wall St. has done NOTHING to alleviate the unemployment situation in this country, your little ditty here means NOTHING with regards to the subject title of this thread.
 
What is it with you neocon/teabagger types and gay sex? Seems every time you're shown to be the mental midgets that you are, you start sputtering all types of gay sex accusations. Look, see that psychiatrist and get your libido problems in order. Until then, I'll wait for you to muster the cojones to actually debate the points I put forth. If you can't, I won't waste time responding again.

Bush inherited a recession from Clinton but that didn't matter to you. Of course bush wasn't BLACK
 
What is it with you neocon/teabagger types and gay sex? Seems every time you're shown to be the mental midgets that you are, you start sputtering all types of gay sex accusations. Look, see that psychiatrist and get your libido problems in order. Until then, I'll wait for you to muster the cojones to actually debate the points I put forth. If you can't, I won't waste time responding again.

What is it with you mental midgets on the left who want to pretend that Obama didn't know what he was getting into when he chose to run for office, pretend that Obama didn't VOTE for all the spending and bailout bills he signed into law taking over from Bush and after five fucking years, still pretend that the malaise and failed economic policies are all Bush's fault?

You wouldn't comprehend a fact if it ran into you.

Let's review your moronic claims:

Which President inherited an economic mandate that resulted in a Wall St. meltdown

What economic mandate are you referring to shit--for-brains? Obviously you haven't even the remotest clue or you wouldn't type such moronic stupidity.

Debate what? A fabricated strawman claim not based on anything reality? Dunce.

criminal activity by bankers

I am not sure what bankers were jailed for any criminal activity; but what the fuck does this have to do with Bush? NOTHING you simple minded fool.

a stonewall Congress

This is my favorite stupid and repugnant claim; for Obama's first two years he had a majority and passed just about every Liberal wet dream he could sign.

But the real utter stupidity is this claim that he is being stonewalled; no he is not you dunce. Just because the Republicans don't bend over and take it in the ass by your Messiah doesn't make it stonewalling you epic dunce.

But I am amused by the equally stupid Liberal argument that the Republicans should pass another pork laden unfunded $450 billion boondoggle euphemistically called a "jobs bill" because idiots like you and Obama think that $450 billion will now do what the previous $850 could not. That isn't merely stupid you repugnant dunce, it is mentally retarded.

non-hiring corporations

This one is funny; yeah you incredibly ill-informed dimwit, corporations are deliberately trying to go out of business just because they don't like Obama.

Like I said, dunces like you wouldn't know a fact if it ran your sorry uninformed ass over.

a bill for two wars

Another of my favorite moronic leftist meme's; the suggestion that one gets a bill for two wars and pay as they go; two wars that Democratic leaders were all in for and whom the American people supported. But now you want to pretend that the ONLY person on planet earth who was for it was Bush. You're a retard of epic proportions.

But it is equal to the incredible stupidity by uninformed ignoramuses like you who think that wars are fought with surpluses. Please show me one dumbass.

Now please crawl back into that dark hole you came out of and where the DNC spoon feeds you these moronic talking points you like to parrot like a trained circus monkey asshole; spare us more of your glaring ignorance and special brand of stupid.
 
For starters, it was the Shrub's tax cuts that favored the rich, bunky. Here's a primer for your education:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073002671.html

Now, all YOU have to do is show me where Obama voted in favor of any reaganomic tax cuts while he was a senator. I'll wait.

Dear shit-for-brains; the Bush tax cuts were across the board. They weren't "targeted for the rich" and I challenge you to find the elements of the law that did this.

But you can't; you're an ignorant hyper partisan retard stuck permanently on stupid.

"reaganomic tax cuts"? This is proof that you merely rant ignorant like a trained little circus monkey parroting talking points you have been fed instead of thinking for yourself.

That is not an economic mandate either you ignorant dunce.

Obama, as a Senator voted FOR the bank bailouts.

How the Senate voted Wednesday on the financial bailout bill (S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424):

Obama (D-IL), Yea


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14196.html
 
And since Wall St. has done NOTHING to alleviate the unemployment situation in this country, your little ditty here means NOTHING with regards to the subject title of this thread.

Wait Obama says it is fixed. Are you saying it isn't? Look I am just looking for profit opportunities and sharing investment ideas with Topspin. The rest of this is irrelevant to me anymore. I am not interested in playing big Indian little Indian. You will defend Obummer until the very end because to do so would damage your fragile psyche.
 
What a day yesterday. Glad I am sitting in cash. It gave back most of the December run. If it closes below 1800 on Monday that is a very bearish sign. Next support is at 1776 for S&P

Shorting FXI has proved to be profitable up 44%. Looking at TLT

Good luck and above all, protect you capital don't follow the sheep
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
What is it with you neocon/teabagger types and gay sex? Seems every time you're shown to be the mental midgets that you are, you start sputtering all types of gay sex accusations. Look, see that psychiatrist and get your libido problems in order. Until then, I'll wait for you to muster the cojones to actually debate the points I put forth. If you can't, I won't waste time responding again.


Bush inherited a recession from Clinton but that didn't matter to you. Of course bush wasn't BLACK

Actually, the Shrub inherited a SURPLUS from Slick Willy....something he threw away on two war actions (one that was BASED ON LIES AND DECEIT TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) that he DID NOT PUT ON THE OFFICIAL BUDGET, which subsequently greatly contributed to the crash in 2000. Look it up, bunky.

That surplus was there in case things like the Dot.com bubble burst, don't cha know.


so now that yet another goal post move by you has been canned, lets' look again at what you so desperately avoid:

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-full-employment-by-now&p=1419566#post1419566

Seems you're not as long winded as your compadre the (bogus) Truth Detector, but your just as willfully ignorant.
 
Actually, the Shrub inherited a SURPLUS from Slick Willy....something he threw away on two war actions (one that was BASED ON LIES AND DECEIT TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) that he DID NOT PUT ON THE OFFICIAL BUDGET, which subsequently greatly contributed to the crash in 2000. Look it up, bunky.

That surplus was there in case things like the Dot.com bubble burst, don't cha know.


so now that yet another goal post move by you has been canned, lets' look again at what you so desperately avoid:

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-full-employment-by-now&p=1419566#post1419566

Seems you're not as long winded as your compadre the (bogus) Truth Detector, but your just as willfully ignorant.

I said he inherited a recession you dumb fuck. You are talking about surpluses? You seriously don't know the difference? No wonder you vote for the democrat party. They love em stupid as fuck. And you sure fit the bill
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
What is it with you neocon/teabagger types and gay sex? Seems every time you're shown to be the mental midgets that you are, you start sputtering all types of gay sex accusations. Look, see that psychiatrist and get your libido problems in order. Until then, I'll wait for you to muster the cojones to actually debate the points I put forth. If you can't, I won't waste time responding again.

What is it with you mental midgets on the left who want to pretend that Obama didn't know what he was getting into when he chose to run for office, pretend that Obama didn't VOTE for all the spending and bailout bills he signed into law taking over from Bush and after five fucking years, still pretend that the malaise and failed economic policies are all Bush's fault?

Seems when your idiot compadre is made a fool of, YOU come trotting to his rescue...unfortunately your "rescue" is just a rehash of the neocon/teabagger mantras that were long ago addressed and disproved.

You wouldn't comprehend a fact if it ran into you.

Let's review your moronic claims:

Which President inherited an economic mandate that resulted in a Wall St. meltdown

What economic mandate are you referring to shit--for-brains? Obviously you haven't even the remotest clue or you wouldn't type such moronic stupidity.

You're repeating yourself...and since I already provided a fact based source that addresses your question, all you're doing is demonstrating your stubborn willful ignorance.

Debate what? A fabricated strawman claim not based on anything reality? Dunce.

Indeed, YOU are NOT debating...merely avoiding the facts I source to back up what I state, and then blather on with your tired, disproved Limbaugh inspired drivel and lame attempts at insults.

criminal activity by bankers

I am not sure what bankers were jailed for any criminal activity; but what the fuck does this have to do with Bush? NOTHING you simple minded fool.

So you admit your lack of knowledge, but proudly continue to spout your ignorant opinions...oblivious to the relevance of the discussion. But hope springs eternal....here's something to bring you up to speed: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/b...iht-prexy.4.16321064.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26987291/.../t/bush-signs-billion-financial-bailout-bill/



a stonewall Congress

This is my favorite stupid and repugnant claim; for Obama's first two years he had a majority and passed just about every Liberal wet dream he could sign.

Once again, you buy into the lies of Limbaugh (or whatever right wingnut punditry you adhere to). If you READ HISTORY CAREFULLY, you'll note that the democrats NEVER HAD THE SENATE MAJORITY. President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support hisagenda. He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken's election in Minnesota and he didn't get seated for seven months. The President's cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania's Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties. That gave the President 59 votes - still a vote shy of the super majority.

But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission. So while the President's number on paper was 59 Senators - he was really working with just 58 Senators. Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 - but only in theory because, Senator Byrd was still out.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html

And let's not forget that little DINO cretin Sen. Lieberman. (look that one up yourself, as I tire of doing homework for the willfully ignorant)


In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy's seat in September. Any pretense of a super-majority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.

But the real utter stupidity is this claim that he is being stonewalled; no he is not you dunce. Just because the Republicans don't bend over and take it in the ass by your Messiah doesn't make it stonewalling you epic dunce.

See the above response, which makes your childish rant all the more pathetic.


But I am amused by the equally stupid Liberal argument that the Republicans should pass another pork laden unfunded $450 billion boondoggle euphemistically called a "jobs bill" because idiots like you and Obama think that $450 billion will now do what the previous $850 could not. That isn't merely stupid you repugnant dunce, it is mentally retarded.

It's interesting how you continually use the words "dunce" and "retarded" while YOUR writings a brilliant demonstrations of those words. Once again, facts put your silly Limbaugh lamentations to rest:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...eir-jobs-bill/2011/10/19/gIQAgX4GzL_blog.html

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/gops-claim-house-passed-30-jobs-bills-bogus

non-hiring corporations

This one is funny; yeah you incredibly ill-informed dimwit, corporations are deliberately trying to go out of business just because they don't like Obama.

Like I said, dunces like you wouldn't know a fact if it ran your sorry uninformed ass over.


So all YOU have is your personal BELIEF...while I have FACTS (that you will either ignore or just squawk your Limbaugh lies louder at).

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/07/479130/record-corporate-profits/



a bill for two wars

Another of my favorite moronic leftist meme's; the suggestion that one gets a bill for two wars and pay as they go; two wars that Democratic leaders were all in for and whom the American people supported. But now you want to pretend that the ONLY person on planet earth who was for it was Bush. You're a retard of epic proportions.

But it is equal to the incredible stupidity by uninformed ignoramuses like you who think that wars are fought with surpluses. Please show me one dumbass.

If you want to see one dumbass, go look in the mirror. Your painful lack of knowledge as to how Congress funds military actions (i.e., wars) is only surpassed by your proud ignorance. Here stupid, for your education:
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/do...a-paying-for-iraq-war-on-credit-was-a-mistake

Now please crawl back into that dark hole you came out of and where the DNC spoon feeds you these moronic talking points you like to parrot like a trained circus monkey asshole; spare us more of your glaring ignorance and special brand of stupid.

Seems like all willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger parrots, you AVOID the information I provide in favor of squawking tired, long disproved distortions, lies, half truths and mantras touted by the likes of Hannity Limbaugh, Krauthhammer and the WND.

Let's show the people what you're avoiding:


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-full-employment-by-now&p=1424755#post1424755

So unless you can actually and honestly discuss the points in the article using documented FACTS and not the drivel derived from your mental flatulence, I won't waste further time responding to you.
 
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Seems like all willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger parrots, you AVOID the information I provide in favor of squawking tired, long disproved distortions, lies, half truths and mantras touted by the likes of Hannity Limbaugh, Krauthhammer and the WND.

Let's show the people what you're avoiding:


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-full-employment-by-now&p=1424755#post1424755

So unless you can actually and honestly discuss the points in the article using documented FACTS and not the drivel derived from your mental flatulence, I won't waste further time responding to you.


Seriously someone who doesn't know the difference between a surplus and a recession is hardly in any position to comment on someone else's mental acuity.

Maybe Winterborn will come along and correct you? Or maybe not.

Do promise not to respond? It will save me the trouble of thread banning your ass
 
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