what about the increases in methane in the atmosphere...you know, that other greenhouse gas
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what about the increases in methane in the atmosphere...you know, that other greenhouse gas
Minister of Truth
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Other greenhouse gas? What about Nitrogen, H2O, etc.?
methane contains carbon...CH4
just the ones that are increasing in the atmosphere
cancel2 2022
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The clue is in the name, methane is the simplest example of a hydrocarbon.
Minister of Truth
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That's why I didn't include compounds such as CO and CO2, because I was trying to avoid repeating carbon all over the place.
Taichiliberal
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Bottom line: A lot of folks on both sides of the debate forget this key fact: true environmental scientist point to man made pollution, deforestation and urbanization as ACCELERANTS of the earth's natural climatic changes.....and NOT the sole cause. It's like saying, "well, some of the wood on this house is going to rot within 20 years", and then when someone throws all the wrong oils, liquids and chemicals on it for 8 years and the wood starts noticeably rotting in by 12 years, you have a group of people swearing that the mistreatment had nothing to do with the rot.
Socrtease
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How much has it accelerated the process? That is the answer that is still not clear.
THIS
apparently ching chong doesn't understand how the case for unprecedented warming was made.
Here's a clue:
It was fudged
Taichiliberal
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All one has to do is look at the reduction in the rain forests of the world, the damage done to land locked forests by acid rain, the levels of man-made chemicals found in the snows or mountainous and artic regions, and you get the idea. Bottom line: arguing about exactly who is more responsible for the house fire when it's burning ain't doing the occupants a hell of a lot of good.
it is happening...now, regardless of the reason
however, look at the depredations that man has made to the ecosystem - you can not damage a system without consequences
we may be entering a solar upswing, but that does not mean that we are not helping it, but we may also be entering a solar down swing and staving off the next ice age
the problem is that we are not sure, but one thing is for certain - the arctic ice cap is shrinking, the greenland ice is shrinking and the ocean is getting more acidic
the curious thing is that half of the antartic ice is increasing and half is decreasing - that leaves us with a net loss of polar ice
so instead of complaining about who is correct, lets look at all of the data that has not been fudged
satellite images show shrinking ice
non-fudged data show sea levels rising
non-fudged data show rising ocean acidity
i do not have the data on incident solar radiation, but doubt it can account for all of the above
but one thing is for certain - the arctic ice cap is shrinking,
check your facts, dumbass. the ice has recovered. been recovered for over a year.
Try to keep up with science, warmer
everything you describe are natural processes
one year does not a recovery make - try at least a decade period for data to look at even a slight trend - a century worth of data would be better and a millennium even better
look for trends not blips
Looks like the trend is flat and all we have is a BLIP. Antarctic above has been growing
Taichiliberal
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Poor little willfully ignorant neocon parrot....your myopia is sadly apparent throughout these boards...you ignore what you don't like and repeat the latest talking point that looks good to you.
You keep saying that, but I've provided the evidence of the fraud. You're the one who is willfully ignorant. You should really educate yourself.
And for the last fucking time, I'm not advocating pollution or ignoring land use issues, so shut the fuck up you idiot