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Ahh, I see. You have dementia or some other form of memory loss.

Nope, I literally told you 30 minutes ago that the choice is up to the Ukrainians as to how long they want to fight and what concessions, if any, they want to make
I think the memory loss stems from the meth products on Ms. Fatlane's "melon farm".

Ukrainians have a right to decide how to defend their own country just like the Israelis do. Notice the MAGAts aren't trying to "stop the killing" when it's brown people being killed. Only when it's their Russian cousins.
 
I am certainly against peace when it means the death of more people.

You are certainly against peace when it means less profits for the Military Industrial Complex and less kickbacks to the Commissars of the the democrat party.

At least with the war, some of the Ukrainians are surviving. Putin is talking about genocide of a level we have never seen before...

Bullshit.

And then there is the next war...

Right, you Stalinist will start a war somewhere - never can there be peace. No one is profiting from peace.

Better to stop Putin early. The peace of the grave is no peace worth having.

You Stalinists had 4 years.

All you were saying, is give war a chance. We did - and all it did was take our money while leaving a million Ukrainians dead. But 10% to the Big Guy makes you ignore that part.
 
I think the memory loss stems from the meth products on Ms. Fatlane's "melon farm".

Ukrainians have a right to decide how to defend their own country just like the Israelis do. Notice the MAGAts aren't trying to "stop the killing" when it's brown people being killed. Only when it's their Russian cousins.
I never seriously thought the Ukrainians were just going to cave and submit to the invaders. Anyone familiar with the history of the East Slavic peoples is that they will be tenacious when pushed to the wall to defend home and hearth.
 
I never seriously thought the Ukrainians were just going to cave and submit to the invaders. Anyone familiar with the history of the East Slavic peoples is that they will be tenacious when pushed to the wall to defend home and hearth.
They won't. It will be like Northern Ireland in the Russian occupied territories and drag on for decades.
 
Have you noticed that Ukraine is not invited to the supposed peace talks?

Have you noticed that @Walt is a pathological liar who will say anything to spew hate at the opposition.

{The defense secretary further explained that Trump “intends to end this war by diplomacy and bringing both Russia and Ukraine to the table” with the help of the Defense Department. “We will only end this devastating war and establish a durable peace by coupling allied strength with a realistic assessment of the battlefield,” Hegseth said.}

If trump can give a peace where Ukraine has a chance to rebuild, then I am all for that. If Ukraine is forced to lose at the peace table what Russia could not take on the battlefield, then it is a hard no. The peace of the grave is no peace at all.

You oppose peace - period. Ukraine is the forever war to keep American taxpayers pumping money into shady defense contractors.


So the very least we would need out of a peace agreement is Ukraine progressing towards NATO and EU membership.

Bullshit - NATO membership is a ploy to draw America into direct war with Russia.

Fucking insane proposal by openly evil people.
 
What happened to the days when conservatives and MAGA morons used to holler that freedom, country, and sovereignty were totally worth fighting to the death for?

^^Was just a bunch of chest-pounding blustering, but ultimately empty bullshit?

It's up to the Ukrainians how long they want to keep fighting, and what if any concessions they want to make.


This war would be over in 24 hours if the invaders withdrew from sovereign Ukrainian land.

We are not Ukrainians, Comrade.

Your loyalty is to anyone but America. We have different objectives.
 
So all that bullshit Rightly blustered for decades about supposedly being willing to fight to the death for freedom was just fake posturing.

You're so full of shit, Comrade. No one vowed to "fight to the death" to protect Ukraine. Outside of Ukrainians themselves.

You're free to go volunteer though.
 
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