So is Biden going to kill it or vomit?

No, it is observable with Biden. It is questionable with Trump.

Trump doesn't wander aimlessly on stage.
Trump doesn't shuffle along stiffly.
Trump doesn't need someone (usually Jill now) leading him were to go.
Trump does say odd and crazy stuff, but so does Biden.
Trump doesn't throw out whole paragraphs of incomprehensible stuff.
Trump doesn't become confused when multiple people are talking to him, Biden does.
Trump doesn't have to use note cards and a teleprompter. Much of the time, he talks off the cuff.

I'm not saying Trump is some paragon of articulate intellect, but rather he's clearly not in serious mental and physical decline, Biden is.

Having a psychiatric opinion foisted in some op ed column is next to meaningless, especially when the person writing it and the publisher of it are deeply invested in opposing Trump.

It'd mean more in that way if you could find hard Right op ed writers and sources that claim Trump is in serious decline than a bunch of Trump hating far Left sources will ever mean.
This is laughable. :ROFLMAO: How to tell us you're a trump lover without saying you're a trump lover. :seenoevil::hearnoevil::speaknoevil:
 
No, it is observable with Biden. It is questionable with Trump.

Trump doesn't wander aimlessly on stage.
Trump doesn't shuffle along stiffly.
Trump doesn't need someone (usually Jill now) leading him were to go.
Trump does say odd and crazy stuff, but so does Biden.
Trump doesn't throw out whole paragraphs of incomprehensible stuff.
Trump doesn't become confused when multiple people are talking to him, Biden does.
Trump doesn't have to use note cards and a teleprompter. Much of the time, he talks off the cuff.

I'm not saying Trump is some paragon of articulate intellect, but rather he's clearly not in serious mental and physical decline, Biden is.

Having a psychiatric opinion foisted in some op ed column is next to meaningless, especially when the person writing it and the publisher of it are deeply invested in opposing Trump.

It'd mean more in that way if you could find hard Right op ed writers and sources that claim Trump is in serious decline than a bunch of Trump hating far Left sources will ever mean.
Malaria won’t appear in public with her husband.
 
No, it is observable with Biden. It is questionable with Trump.
Here you go Mr. Gardner.

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

 
Here you go Mr. Gardner.

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

Rambling, definitely.

Where's the lie though? There a lot of opinion in there, jumbled with some drivel, but I'm not seeing the "lie." As for it overall, there isn't any gibberish in it where the transcript has to try and muddle through unintelligible words.

He certainly jumps from topic to topic almost with every sentence, mostly stuff that amounts to drivel.
 
Rambling, definitely.

Where's the lie though? There a lot of opinion in there, jumbled with some drivel, but I'm not seeing the "lie." As for it overall, there isn't any gibberish in it where the transcript has to try and muddle through unintelligible words.

He certainly jumps from topic to topic almost with every sentence, mostly stuff that amounts to drivel.
Say this was a question on a logic test. What's the central point in the paragraph?

One of the lies: " if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world.."
 
Did you watch? There's your answer...

“And look … I have the biggest heart [on] the stage,” Trump said. “I guarantee you that. :ROFLMAO:

“I didn’t have sex with a porn star, number one,” Trump replied. .:sick:

"And if you look at this whole question that you’re asking, a complex, but not really complex." :unsure:

"But I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. I think it’s very important. Some people don’t. Follow your heart. But you have to get elected also and – because that has to do with other things. You’ve got to get elected..." :wha:

"So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states – Democrat-run – take it after birth. ":smh:
The difference between you and me is that I fully acknowledge that Trump is horrendous. Exceptionally bad for the country and for the world for that matter. You don’t do the same about Brandon because you’re a political hack like 90% on this board. Tsk, tsk.
 
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Say this was a question on a logic test. What's the central point in the paragraph?

Poor example to use on a "logic test." However, it would be difficult to figure out for sure what Trump was trying to get at. I think he was saying something about Iran and nuclear weapons, but that's about as good as I can figure it out.
One of the lies: " if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world.."
That's an opinion, not a lie. He is making an assumption or surmises that.

A lie is a falsehood with an intent to deceive. Opinion is something you think or believe but are not saying out of deception. Opinions can be wrong. They can be devoid of fact either through omission or ignorance.

It is when you intentionally use misinformation, misuse facts, or deliberately omit evidence, that you become a liar.

Thus, Trump's statement above is simply his opinion. There is no factual evidence to back up what he says. It's your opinion he's wrong. But that doesn't make what he said, a lie.
 
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You mean her speaking after the debate? I was wondering why Joke just stood there grinning like an idiot, not even facing the crowd, while Jill did all the talking...

:unsure:


Why didn't Joke just speak for himself?
It’s a known fact that folks with elderly dementia revert back to early childhood.
I actually feel sorry for the geezer.
Reminds me of the has been tennis player Andy Murray. He continues playing yet usually loses in the first round. Kinda sad actually.
 
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It’s a known fact that folks with elderly dementia revert back to early childhood.
I actually feel sorry for the geezer.
Reminds me of the has been tennis player Andy Murray. He continues playing yet usually loses in the first round. Kinda sad actually.

Could you imagine Trump and Biden both have to tee off in a golf game?

I'd make sure there was an ambulance and medical staff present for Biden. I don't think he has the balance or the coordination any longer to do anything like that. Like it or don't Trump is still able to hit a golf ball. I don't know, maybe his game sucks, but he can at least hit the ball.

And, you're right. It really is sad to see Biden like he is and forced to go on in office.
 
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