AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
It's telling where MAGA's loyalty lies.
Meanwhile, what about the veterans living here?
Meanwhile, what about the veterans living here?
So Russia should keep its ill gotten gains?
- Thread starter Jarod
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The Vets tend to be sure that their country betrayed them.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Are you saying that Trump betrayed them?
Chay Bowes
@BowesChay
The same people that told you they were winning in Vietnam, that Saddam was about to attack you, that Afghanistan was a "Win" and that Biden was "Sharp as a tack" Have told you Russia is the aggressor. And that Ukraine is a Democracy?They are liars.
@BowesChay
The same people that told you they were winning in Vietnam, that Saddam was about to attack you, that Afghanistan was a "Win" and that Biden was "Sharp as a tack" Have told you Russia is the aggressor. And that Ukraine is a Democracy?They are liars.
Its sad to see someone as bright as Douglas Murray showing up a couple of days ago still not having any idea what is going on in Ukraine:
nypost.com
Douglas Murray: Trump wants peace and an end to the war in Ukraine – it’s by far his toughest objective
There are two wars that President Trump understandably wants to end.
nypost.com
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
But you aren’t giving me specifics on how you would make Russia give back land. It’s ok for you to admit you don’t know.
countryboy
Verified User
Yeah right. Libs are now the wear mongers. You would prefer to see this war go on in perpetuity.
Diesel
Verified User
You fucking crackhead. The Republican party is responsible for just about every war in recent history.
No, but I also don’t Russia to be awarded for their aggression. It will empower Putin. He has no right to Ukrainian land.
That would be part of the negotiations. They are taking Ukraine's land. Make them give it back. They are responsible for terrible aggression. Trump would be happy to give it to Russia.
.That is why Europe should be in the deal, not America.
countryboy
Verified User
Fine, then the war can continue in perpetuity, and Ukrainians and Russians can continue to be slaughtered. Happy?
countryboy
Verified User
Really? Which wars would those be? List them gezeenius.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Great. How would you go about "making them give it back"? You and Jarod are long on platitudes but short on specifics. How would you go about making Russia do it? What leverage do we have? You do understand that in negotiations, you have to have some sort of leverage right?
You guys tried all sorts of sanctions against Russia to make them stop and they didn't work. So what is this genius plan you have? Or are you just going to complain? You have nothing substantive to offer?
That is OK if you don't, just have the courage to admit it.
Jarod has all but admitted it by abandoning his thread
Diesel
Verified User
Why? You're not able to learn and would deny reality even if you could learn. I will offer, however, the invasion of Grenada, the bombing of Libya, the tanker war, the invasion of Panama, the Gulf War, the Iraqi No-Fly Zone Enforcement, both interventions in the Somali Civil War, the war in Afghanistan, the "war on terror" (you idiots' most brilliant fuck up), the intervention in Yemen, the Iraq War, and the intervention in the North-West Pakistan War. Don't ask me stupid questions.
This is a three year old war. Russian did not capture Ukraine in two weeks. You don't believe me, well, uhm....
NATO kept Western Europe, and Northern America safe from first the USSR, and then Russia for 80 years. That is a success that has rarely been matched.
Russia problem is they did not win. If they had defeated Ukraine in two weeks, like everyone thought they would, we would be having a very different conversation right now. They have not won, and should not be handed a win they could not get on the battlefield.
Most people would consider defending ones country against invasion is a good reason for a country to fight. If the Ukrainians disagreed, this war would have lasted a few days.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
I don't see how it is Russia's problem since they control the territory, they won. Can Ukraine take back the territory themselves? Not likely.
I keep asking the same question over and over and over again, yet none of you Ukraine lovers will or can answer. How do you make Russia comply with your demand that they turn the land back over to Ukraine? What is your leverage? You have none.
This is all NATOs doing. You guys fucked around with Russia and kept talking about putting NATO on its border with Ukraine. And now you get what you get. I have no sympathy. Will you send your sons to fight a war against Russia for Ukraine?