So who wants witnesses

Both Earl and I agree that if trump were innocent, he would want as many people from his administration to testify as possible... Earl, are you having a stroke?

No, are you?

The flaw in your post is...Executive Privilege and national security.must be protected.

Think about it, you will get it.
 
Hello Darth,

It doesn't matter what HB did or didn't do. What Trump did in holding the Ukraine aid was illegal, according to the GAO.

What HB did or didn’t do matters to Trump’s defense.

I’m quite confident the Senate majority will agree with me. Having a problem with the process, are we lol?
 
The flaw in your post is...Executive Privilege and national security.must be protected.

Privilege can always be waived. It is an essential part of privilege. If "executive privilege" exists in this case, trump can waive it. If waiving it would help prove trump innocent, then of course he would do it.

As for national security, if releasing these claims were a violation of national security, then trump is obviously guilty of it. We are just asking for him to prove his claims.
 
Privilege can always be waived. It is an essential part of privilege. If "executive privilege" exists in this case, trump can waive it. If waiving it would help prove trump innocent, then of course he would do it.

As for national security, if releasing these claims were a violation of national security, then trump is obviously guilty of it. We are just asking for him to prove his claims.

Allow me to tutor you.

Executive Privalege should never be waived when, as President Trump has stated, national security is involved,

Do you understand now?

Is today a school day?
 
Executive Privalege should never be waived when, as President Trump has stated, national security is involved

Saying executive privilege should never be waved is insane. Are you actually arguing the executive should never be allowed to communicate with the public?

trump has already waived the privilege by releasing his claim of what the information is. Privilege can be used to hide information, but not lies. You cannot lie about what you said to your lawyer, and then claim lawyer client privilege.

National security claims does not exclude Congress. Congress has as much right to national security secrets as the president does.
 
Saying executive privilege should never be waved is insane. Are you actually arguing the executive should never be allowed to communicate with the public?

trump has already waived the privilege by releasing his claim of what the information is. Privilege can be used to hide information, but not lies. You cannot lie about what you said to your lawyer, and then claim lawyer client privilege.

National security claims does not exclude Congress. Congress has as much right to national security secrets as the president does.

"Executive Privilege should never be waived ****"when, as President Trump has stated, national security is involved."****

That's a simple declarative sentence directed at a simple person.

I can't make it more clear than that. Have a literate person explain it.
 
"Executive Privilege should never be waived ****"when, as President Trump has stated, national security is involved."****

That's a simple declarative sentence directed at a simple person.

I can't make it more clear than that. Have a literate person explain it.


your assertion that trump doesnt want witnesses because he is guilty is correct
 
Hello Southern Chicken,

That's the process,right? The courts interpret a separation of powers. You have problems with the constitution.

As the wry Democrats pointed out on several occasions yesterday the Constitution gave the sole power of impeachment to the House and trying the impeachment to the Senate.

Not the courts!

If the framers had intended it to be decided by the courts, they would have made the Constitution reflect so.

By refusing to comply with the Constitution, Trump has sought a loophole (as he always does.) He is not even trying to comply with the Constitution, but instead looking for a way to subvert it.

If Republicans weren't so star-struck they might be able to open their eyes and see that the man they support is anti-Constitution and power-drunk.

-And the irony of invoking the very Constitution Trump shuns is indeed remarkable.

If Trump were going to abide by the Constitution he would have complied with the House subpoenas instead of issuing a blanket: 'do not cooperate in any way shape or form' order.

What that order really meant was: 'ignore the Constitution.'
 
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Hello Southern Chicken,



As the wry Democrats pointed out on several occasions yesterday the Constitution gave the sole power of impeachment to the House and trying the impeachment to the Senate.

Not the courts!

If the framers had intended it to be decided by the courts, they would have made the Constitution reflect so.

By refusing to comply with the Constitution, Trump has sought a loophole (as he always does.) He is not even trying to comply with the Constitution, but instead looking for a way to subvert it.

If Republicans weren't so star-struck they might be able to open their eyes and see that the man they support is anti-Constitution and power-drunk.

-And the irony of invoking the very Constitution Trump shuns is indeed remarkable.

If Trump were going to abide by the Constitution he would have complied with the House subpoenas instead of issuing a blanket: 'do not cooperate in any way shape or form' order.

What that order really meant was: 'ignore the Constitution.'

More horse mierda.

"By refusing to comply with the Constitution."

Post proof of this scurrilous allegation or we will know that you pulled it out of your culo...as usual.
 
If trump were as innocent as Republicans claimed, you would think Republicans would want as many witnesses as possible.


I don't want to believe you're stupid, so let's go with you are just not a thinker, kind enough?

Logic, another one of your probably not so strong suits, but work with it
would cause one to ask what would a John Bolton testimony bring to the Democrats case.

Would he likely say , best case for the Democrats that "Trump wanted his political opponent investigated"?
As if they need one more person to verify that for them. The case they brought over to the Senate has included evidence that they have already established that.

As a matter of fact their entire case is based on the fact that they have already established that Trump wanted his political opponent investigated, and held up aid to get that to happen.

if the evidence they already have does not prove that, then they maybe should not have voted to impeach? logical? Impeaching a president , which they did, is a pretty tall order. That evidence had better be pretty damn good already, set in stone.

So why Bolton? because this has nothing to do with proving it to the Senate, evidence is already overwhelming right? they impeached the man...
it's a show to persuade the American people that they are right so they might think twice about voting for Trump in
2020.
In other words they are using their political office to influence the 2020 election.
Which is exactly what they are accusing Trump of doing.

the swamp is in full flow mode, either pay attention, or not, we don't care. trump is not going to be removed, might want to concentrate on a strategy in beating him in November that doesn't involve doing exactly what you are accusing him of doing.
 
Neither Biden nor Obama have been impeached nor are on trial, you fucking idiot.

Whether or not Hunter was involved in Ukraine corruption is the crux of the whole case. The Left is claiming Hunter is innocent and clean as the driven snow, Slimeball.
 
Whether or not Hunter was involved in Ukraine corruption is the crux of the whole case. The Left is claiming Hunter is innocent and clean as the driven snow, Slimeball.

:lolup:

The crux of the whole case, bitch, is Trump extorting the Ukrainian president for his own political gain.

Moron

:rofl2:
 
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